Moved Thread Ryan Schoenmakers - is now a premiership winning forward and has a 2 year contract extension

[Brishawk]

Shoey actually does well on a votes per game basis:

Name Votes Per Match
Josh Gibson 8.24
Luke Hodge 8.14
Cyril Rioli 8.08
Sam Mitchell 8.00
Grant Birchall 6.77
Shaun Burgoyne 6.35
Ben Stratton 6.08
Jack Gunston 6.00
Liam Shiels 5.86
Luke Breust 5.84
Isaac Smith 5.80
Jarryd Roughead 5.63
James Frawley 5.56
Jordan Lewis 5.13
Ryan Schoenmakers 5.06
Taylor Duryea 5.05
Ben McEvoy 4.63
Brian Lake 4.45
Paul Puopolo 4.39
Matthew Suckling 4.04
Bradley Hill 3.96
Daniel Howe 3.75
David Hale 3.67
Jonathon Ceglar 3.64
Matt Spangher 3.25
Billy Hartung 2.85
Angus Litherland 2.83
Will Langford 2.23
James Sicily 2.00
Jonathan O'Rourke 2.00
Jed Anderson 1.50
Brendan Whitecross 1.00

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Shoey actually does well on a votes per game basis:

Name Votes Per Match
Josh Gibson 8.24
Luke Hodge 8.14
Cyril Rioli 8.08
Sam Mitchell 8.00
Grant Birchall 6.77
Shaun Burgoyne 6.35
Ben Stratton 6.08
Jack Gunston 6.00
Liam Shiels 5.86
Luke Breust 5.84
Isaac Smith 5.80
Jarryd Roughead 5.63
James Frawley 5.56
Jordan Lewis 5.13
Ryan Schoenmakers 5.06
Taylor Duryea 5.05
Ben McEvoy 4.63
Brian Lake 4.45
Paul Puopolo 4.39
Matthew Suckling 4.04
Bradley Hill 3.96
Daniel Howe 3.75
David Hale 3.67
Jonathon Ceglar 3.64
Matt Spangher 3.25
Billy Hartung 2.85
Angus Litherland 2.83
Will Langford 2.23
James Sicily 2.00
Jonathan O'Rourke 2.00
Jed Anderson 1.50
Brendan Whitecross 1.00

Easily in our top 22 on that basis.

 

[IdiotBox]

Shoey actually does well on a votes per game basis:

Name Votes Per Match
Josh Gibson 8.24
Luke Hodge 8.14
Cyril Rioli 8.08
Sam Mitchell 8.00
Grant Birchall 6.77
Shaun Burgoyne 6.35
Ben Stratton 6.08
Jack Gunston 6.00
Liam Shiels 5.86
Luke Breust 5.84
Isaac Smith 5.80
Jarryd Roughead 5.63
James Frawley 5.56
Jordan Lewis 5.13
Ryan Schoenmakers 5.06
Taylor Duryea 5.05
Ben McEvoy 4.63
Brian Lake 4.45
Paul Puopolo 4.39
Matthew Suckling 4.04
Bradley Hill 3.96
Daniel Howe 3.75
David Hale 3.67
Jonathon Ceglar 3.64
Matt Spangher 3.25
Billy Hartung 2.85
Angus Litherland 2.83
Will Langford 2.23
James Sicily 2.00
Jonathan O'Rourke 2.00
Jed Anderson 1.50
Brendan Whitecross 1.00

Good work Brishawk !!

 

[Brishawk]

It's interesting that our three premiership players that have departed are well down in the votes per match rankings. Hill and Puopolo well down that list also.

 

[Big A]

It's interesting that our three premiership players that have departed are well down in the votes per match rankings. Hill and Puopolo well down that list also.

Theres a sizable jump down from the top 4....one that stands out is BB

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[Brishawk]

Theres a sizable jump down from the top 4....one that stands out is BB

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BB easily our best ruck on that measure....sadly hahaha

 

[Gralin]

BB was our best ruck this year, his tank will be useful next year with reduced interchanges

 

[grumbleguts]

Shoey actually does well on a votes per game basis:

Name Votes Per Match
Josh Gibson 8.24
Luke Hodge 8.14
Cyril Rioli 8.08
Sam Mitchell 8.00
Grant Birchall 6.77
Shaun Burgoyne 6.35
Ben Stratton 6.08
Jack Gunston 6.00
Liam Shiels 5.86
Luke Breust 5.84
Isaac Smith 5.80
Jarryd Roughead 5.63
James Frawley 5.56
Jordan Lewis 5.13
Ryan Schoenmakers 5.06
Taylor Duryea 5.05
Ben McEvoy 4.63
Brian Lake 4.45
Paul Puopolo 4.39
Matthew Suckling 4.04
Bradley Hill 3.96
Daniel Howe 3.75
David Hale 3.67
Jonathon Ceglar 3.64
Matt Spangher 3.25
Billy Hartung 2.85
Angus Litherland 2.83
Will Langford 2.23
James Sicily 2.00
Jonathan O'Rourke 2.00
Jed Anderson 1.50
Brendan Whitecross 1.00

Brishawk where did you find this data?

 

[crazywildhorse]

Looking at his u18 vid, reminded me of his GF performance. Why the hell did he play back when his work as a state level CHF was that good? I guess the answer was Roughead and Franklin, but he may have been better plying his trade at BH, instead of having his confidence smashed at CHB

 

[heh]

Looking at his u18 vid, reminded me of his GF performance. Why the hell did he play back when his work as a state level CHF was that good? I guess the answer was Roughead and Franklin, but he may have been better plying his trade at BH, instead of having his confidence smashed at CHB

I'll ask the same question that I asked at the time.. who else could we have put in the backline??
Murphy??
And I don't think his confidence got shot til last year. (that had a lot to do with his knee and his fitness level etc imo)
2012 and the first few games of 2013 he actually played quite well in the backline despite his whipping boy status. It was just the big guns who got hold of him, and they manage to get hold of most defenders...

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Brishawk where did you find this data?

You can see the total votes for each player here on the Hawks website:

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-10-12/all-the-votes-2015-peter-crimmins-medal

I assume Brishawk just checked how many games each player played and did the division (something I did roughly in my head to work out that Schoey did quite well but couldn't be bothered doing the whole thing so well done Brishawk )

 

[TyHawk]

I don't see how Stratton and Breust had a better year than Isaac smith.

 

[PenAndPaper]

I don't see how Stratton and Breust had a better year than Isaac smith.

It has a lot to do with doing what they are told to do.

 

[Bikefreak]

Let's hope people in here stop bagging him in 2016, it's just not the Hawthorn way.

Is questioning his performance and form bagging him?

I would think not.

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[GoldenHodge]

Is questioning his performance and form bagging him?

I would think not.

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Some people wanted him delisted at the end of last year. Thank god none of us have any input in the club's decision making.

 

[beta_condition]

Is questioning his performance and form bagging him?

I would think not.

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There's a difference between discussion of performance and slander, of which Shoey has copped alot by so called Hawthorn supporters.

 

[Pessimistic]

Looking at his u18 vid, reminded me of his GF performance. Why the hell did he play back when his work as a state level CHF was that good? I guess the answer was Roughead and Franklin, but he may have been better plying his trade at BH, instead of having his confidence smashed at CHB

My first thought was 'what the hell did we do to him ?' Instinctive footballer.

2011 pf everyone concentrates on his dropped mark. Seconds before he set up buddy for the goal that got us in front. Not shoeys fault the team didnt ice the game.

But for all the knockers, he always had plenty of support, probably to spite the knockers as much as anything.

This decades John Barker

 

[Brishawk]

You can see the total votes for each player here on the Hawks website:

http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/2015-10-12/all-the-votes-2015-peter-crimmins-medal

I assume Brishawk just checked how many games each player played and did the division (something I did roughly in my head to work out that Schoey did quite well but couldn't be bothered doing the whole thing so well done Brishawk )

Yep. Merged the vote data with the games played from the stats page.

 

[SSSSSS]

BB easily our best ruck on that measure....sadly hahaha

We've got to have one of the worst H/A ruck divisions in the comp the past 4 years but come finals it all changes. Hale and Big Boy step up everytime.

 

[Davo23]

We've got to have one of the worst H/A ruck divisions in the comp the past 4 years but come finals it all changes. Hale and Big Boy step up everytime.

Perhaps we don't play our "A" tactics until the finals.
Or maybe we have players who just step up in big games?

At Hawthorn, we play a lot of big games, so we need big game players!

 

[GOHORCS]

Now you're just taking the piss.

Was I?

 

[Gralin]

Is questioning his performance and form bagging him?

I would think not.

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One person wanted to feed him Ebola in his cereal and another wanted him to do another knee so his career would be over and both of those comments were this year during the season. Others also just refused to admit he ever played a good game like some Cats supporters on the main board still do

 

[Blaze Storm]

Was I?

Yes

 

[bris tarangau]

He surely must have better goal kicking accuracy than most key forwards in the comp. If he is kept at the forward line, he might kick more goals than Travis Cloke.

 

[HairyO]

I don't see how Stratton and Breust had a better year than Isaac smith.

Stratton was a beast. Who beat him this year?

Simple answer: noone.

Breust played a lot more mid which I think is Clarko planning for 2017.

But yes, Smith had a massive year. So far ahead of Hill.