Admin Notice S35 Rules & Tribunal Thread

[omgfridge]

Bastyy posted 995 times in Season 33, including double figure posts in the last 4 rounds. He definitely wasn’t retired for “a few seasons”.

It was pretty clear that he checked out in S34 after the Trio were banned, thus why he’s now retired.

It’s clear that the Furies were in trouble during S34, it’s why you went there & it’s why it signed up a brand new poster with no BigFooty history.

If Discord is “evidence” to prove that two BigFooty posters are separate, despite it being super clear that Naughty Nooks was using the Nixi account while suspended (on two separate accounts) then there’s an issue with nativity at the Hippodrome.

As I’ve said above—- the club f**** up, it should be condemning the poster in question and apologising for bringing the game into disrepute instead of treating us all like fools.

Very unlike you to play a victim, we at the Furies will work night and day to make this right for you!!

 

[Pickitt]

If Discord is “evidence” to prove that two BigFooty posters are separate, despite it being super clear that Naughty Nooks was using the Nixi account while suspended (on two separate accounts) then there’s an issue with nativity at the Hippodrome.

Are they separate PEOPLE, I've talked to both of them in a VC at the same time, as previously mentioned it isn't a thing of "Is nixi a real person?" it's a thing of "Was nixi in charge of 'nixi' on bigfooty.

 

[Senor M]

That makes no difference. He would have hung around If needed, as would I and by the looks of it other posters would have rallied rogether if required to help them out. The Furies would have met the minimum list requirements one way or another. They have nothing to apologise for, that's like apologising because you got scammed.

They were only just at the minimum list requirement the way that is was & I didn’t see anyone putting their hand up to help.

In fact you walked out of the club despite them being in a worse position than the one you arrived in.

 

[Agent93]

Are they separate PEOPLE, I've talked to both of them in a VC at the same time, as previously mentioned it isn't a thing of "Is nixi a real person?" it's a thing of "Was nixi in charge of 'nixi' on bigfooty.

I'm not sure what you're worried about, Nixi hasn't been accused of anything.

 

[gab213]

Are they separate PEOPLE, I've talked to both of them in a VC at the same time, as previously mentioned it isn't a thing of "Is nixi a real person?" it's a thing of "Was nixi in charge of 'nixi' on bigfooty.

Don't ruin a good story by introducing facts into the argument

 

[Senor M]

Are they separate PEOPLE, I've talked to both of them in a VC at the same time, as previously mentioned it isn't a thing of "Is nixi a real person?" it's a thing of "Was nixi in charge of 'nixi' on bigfooty.

MORE excuses about Discord mate.

Discord does NOT equal BigFooty.

Just admit it— you f**** up, even when others identified this issue back in September when Nixi was signed.

If you think signing an alt account of someone who was suspended at the time is an appropriate action, then yes—- a BTGID charge is completely suitable at this time.

 

[Cadsky]

They were only just at the minimum list requirement the way that is was & I didn’t see anyone putting their hand up to help.

In fact you walked out of the club despite them being in a worse position than the one you arrived in.

When I joined the furies they knew full well that I had only committed for the remaineder of the season. They asked if I'd stay and made it clear they wanted me to stay but I had other plans already. Having said that, at no point did they say, me staying or going was the difference between meeting the minimum list numbers and not. Had it got to that point I'd have put my plans on hold for a season.

 

[Senor M]

When I joined the furies they knew full well that I had only committed for the remaineder of the season. They asked if I'd stay and made it clear they wanted me to stay but I had other plans already. Having said that, at no point did they say, me staying or going was the difference between meeting the minimum list numbers and not. Had it got to that point I'd have put my plans on hold for a season.

The Furies had a minimum list number on the deadline date. One of their posters had only ever posted 4 times—- all within a few days of joining BigFooty, at the same time as the person who recommended them to join BigFooty was on a suspension.

Even if they considered Nixi to be authentic, having only 22 players & knowing how volatile suspensions have been in Sweet the past few seasons I would have thought that either recruiting a few more players or asking a few to stay would have been a good idea.

I’m not saying you should have stayed, but letting you, Bastyy & Tugga go is an unnecessary risk going into a season.

 

[Cadsky]

The Furies had a minimum list number on the deadline date. One of their posters had only ever posted 4 times—- all within a few days of joining BigFooty, at the same time as the person who recommended them to join BigFooty was on a suspension.

Even if they considered Nixi to be authentic, having only 22 players & knowing how volatile suspensions have been in Sweet the past few seasons I would have thought that either recruiting a few more players or asking a few to stay would have been a good idea.

I’m not saying you should have stayed, but letting you, Bastyy & Tugga go is an unnecessary risk going into a season.

No doubt. When I was Wonders captain I made sure we weren't anywhere near the minimum but sometimes it can't be helped. Recruiting is very difficult and not everyone is good at it. I've been lucky, especially this last off-season but just because you want or need to recruit people doesn't mean it'll happen and that could be by no fault of their efforts. Out of curiosity, approximately how many people have you recruited to the sfa?

 

[Robertio]

No doubt. When I was Wonders captain I made sure we weren't anywhere near the minimum but sometimes it can't be helped. Recruiting is very difficult and not everyone is good at it. I've been lucky, especially this last off-season but just because you want or need to recruit people doesn't mean it'll happen and that could be by no fault of their efforts. Out of curiosity, approximately how many people have you recruited to the sfa?

Should ask him how many people he's driven away with his crap persona.

 

[VainGlorious]

Why would I do that to my friends at the Bombers?

Guys like VeinGlorious and....





























Well umm, VeinGlorious and.....














VeinGlorious.

 

[Pickitt]

I'm not sure what you're worried about, Nixi hasn't been accused of anything.

The accusations of us ****ing up

MORE excuses about Discord mate.

Discord does NOT equal BigFooty.

Just admit it— you f**** up, even when others identified this issue back in September when Nixi was signed.

If you think signing an alt account of someone who was suspended at the time is an appropriate action, then yes—- a BTGID charge is completely suitable at this time.

I'm still confused about WHAT you are trying to get at, this isn't an excuse, it's proof they are a real person. If you can't recognise that then I don't know what to tell you.
Here are the facts,
As of September 20th we had proof they were real, I am not a mod, I can't see where people are at any given time so there's not much else I can do.
I didn't know at the time that Nixi would then not post for the rest of the season.

 

[Cadsky]

Should ask him how many people he's driven away with his crap persona.

But is it a persona?

 

[Robertio]

But is it a persona?

I ****en hope so.

 

[Senor M]

No doubt. When I was Wonders captain I made sure we weren't anywhere near the minimum but sometimes it can't be helped. Recruiting is very difficult and not everyone is good at it. I've been lucky, especially this last off-season but just because you want or need to recruit people doesn't mean it'll happen and that could be by no fault of their efforts. Out of curiosity, approximately how many people have you recruited to the sfa?

Funnily enough I recruited the person who replaced you as Wonders captain. But this isn’t a recruitment issue.

This is a comment that JC & Pick turned a blind eye to situation that clearly looked like an alt.

Even I noticed how suss it was when it occurred.

kananooks —- you do know that you can’t make alt accounts to get around a ban?

I understand that they’ve got inexperienced captains & they were concerned about staying above the minimum list numbers—- but I’m honesty baffled as to how Nixi was signed and why they were kept on the list a second season.

 

[Ligma]

The accusations of us ******* up

I'm still confused about WHAT you are trying to get at, this isn't an excuse, it's proof they are a real person. If you can't recognise that then I don't know what to tell you.
Here are the facts,
As of September 20th we had proof they were real, I am not a mod, I can't see where people are at any given time so there's not much else I can do.
I didn't know at the time that Nixi would then not post for the rest of the season.

Pick he's never gonna get it,

in saying that if I ever turned as miserable as he is I give you permission to cut my hands off so I can never type again.

 

[tony]

Funnily enough I recruited the person who replaced you as Wonders captain.

Just for this, the Bears will be delisting you immediately.

 

[Pickitt]

This is a comment that JC & Pick turned a blind eye to situation that clearly looked like an alt.

how

 

[Senor M]

how

If I could tell on Day 1, it shouldn’t have taken you 6 months junior.

kananooks —- you do know that you can’t make alt accounts to get around a ban?

 

[Cadsky]

Funnily enough I recruited the person who replaced you as Wonders captain. But this isn’t a recruitment issue.

This is a comment that JC & Pick turned a blind eye to situation that clearly looked like an alt.

Even I noticed how suss it was when it occurred.



I understand that they’ve got inexperienced captains & they were concerned about staying above the minimum list numbers—- but I’m honesty baffled as to how Nixi was signed and why they were kept on the list a second season.

So you know how hard recruiting is and it's not just as easy as wanting it to happen or we'd never discuss the issues around teams folding.

It's pretty clear the furies didn't believe they were the same person at the time of recruitment and still have reason to believe that.

Regardless both players have now been permabanned, therefore both will serve the minimum 8 week suspension and then some. Case closed, time to move on.


On a completely separate and unrelated note, furies won their recent match against the Royals while playing an officially recognised alt account. Surely furies are stripped of their win and the Royals remain undefeated this season?

 

[Pickitt]

If I could tell on Day 1, it shouldn’t have taken you 6 months junior.

And I suppose you were also watching from the stars when kananooks talked to me with nixi about recruiting a day old account to the team.
Scroll down 2 posts and Cadsky even says they were recruited elsewhere.

 

[Senor M]

So you know how hard recruiting is and it's not just as easy as wanting it to happen or we'd never discuss the issues around teams folding.

I agree that recruitment & retention is difficult, but this isn’t a recruitment issue.

This is an issue of a club signing an alt under suspicious circumstances (as the person who apparently recruited them was suspended), the circumstances getting even more suspicious when said recruit goes MIA once the original poster returns and there’s no consideration taken to remove a suspicious player from their list in the off-season.

It's pretty clear the furies didn't believe they were the same person at the time of recruitment and still have reason to believe that.

Regardless both players have now been permabanned, therefore both will serve the minimum 8 week suspension and then some. Case closed, time to move on.

This saga has been the talk of the league for the entire week, it’s brought the league into disrepute and I think that the clubs involved don’t deserve to get off without a punishment for their involvement in this situation.

Thus my call for a BTGID charge for the admin & committee to discuss a suitable punishment for this bizzare and unusual situation.

On a completely separate and unrelated note, furies won their recent match against the Royals while playing an officially recognised alt account. Surely furies are stripped of their win and the Royals remain undefeated this season?

That seems like a fair punishment IMO—- the same way that a 4x100 Sprint team is stripped of an Olympic medal if one of their team mates are later caught for doping.

 

[VainGlorious]

You campaigners have too much time on your hands.

 

[Robertio]

 

[Robertio]

I agree that recruitment & retention is difficult, but this isn’t a recruitment issue.

This is an issue of a club signing an alt under suspicious circumstances (as the person who apparently recruited them was suspended), the circumstances getting even more suspicious when said recruit goes MIA once the original poster returns and there’s no consideration taken to remove a suspicious player from their list in the off-season.



This saga has been the talk of the league for the entire week, it’s brought the league into disrepute and I think that the clubs involved don’t deserve to get off without a punishment for their involvement in this situation.

Thus my call for a BTGID charge for the admin & committee to discuss a suitable punishment for this bizzare and unusual situation.



That seems like a fair punishment IMO—- the same way that a 4x100 Sprint team is stripped of an Olympic medal if one of their team mates are later caught for doping.

Old Boys haven't done anything wrong, none of our alts in opposition teams have been spotted yet.