Roast Sack Richo

Discussion in 'St Kilda' started by PaddysurDaddy, May 13, 2018.

Put it out there
  1. plugger66

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    Didn’t you say it was something else and we all laughed at you but you are now right.


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  2. StCicatriz

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    They also renegotiated his contract. I wonder what that means!!!
     
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  3. StCicatriz

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    Nope.
     
  4. MUFKilda

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    But what about supporters who have paid for memberships? And isn't what is effectively throwing games against the rules?

    I could be wrong, but I inferred that it's sometimes beneficial for teams to lose games, because of the way the draft system operates. Have I got that right?
     
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    Why are you angry. When did I suggest we shouldn’t do that. You should read what I write instead of guessing. I’ve said all along we should have a review of everything and what ever they come up with we should do. Now read that a few times so remember.


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  6. plugger66

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    Mini rebuild suggests we were short of players. No mention of development.


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  7. StCicatriz

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    Nope
     
  8. triggering bro

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    Missed that what happened?
     
  9. Indie Rock

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    Lower on for ladder you finish, higher your draft pick is next year.

    Finish last = no 1 pick
    2nd last = pick 2......

    ...and so on.

    It is against the rules to ‘tank’ but clubs have done it, Melbourne were fined for it not long ago, literally sending their team out instructed to lose.
     
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    That’s what you said. Fact. Unlike you when you claimed something I didn’t say and used a drunk emoticon.


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  12. StCicatriz

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    Nope.

    Look at the years I put in there. Look at the age of some of the players. It's not hard plugger. Go have another drink
     
  13. bergholt

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    Yes, because you get slightly earlier draft picks if you finish further down the ladder. This should probably explain it:

    https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2018/provisional-draft-order

    "But what about supporters who have paid for memberships?" As a supporter who's paid for a membership, I take a pretty black and white view of things. I'd like us to win a flag. Finishing 13th instead of 16th has no appeal to me. Finishing 2nd instead of 8th doesn't even have much appeal. If we're not going to win a flag in a given year - we're not this year - then I want us to do the right thing to position us for a future flag. I don't know if that's getting draft picks or trying hard to win more games, either might be valid, but if the draft picks will help more then that's absolutely what I want us to do.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think the Bombers are losing a lot of sleep over it. They already had two AA KPD in Hurley & Hooker.
     
  15. Mowman

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    Clips of pies game, Saints just bombing the ball to top of goal square time after time and each time there was a lot better options.
    Said how easy it was to play against us and ball coming back twice as quick, which is just killing our mids and defenders
    0 - 4 against top 8 sides with a percentage of 50
     
  16. plugger66

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    Whatevs. Got anymore gems than go have another drink.


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    Yes. I fully understand the system keeps the competition more even and prevents the richer clubs from dominating, but there must be a danger of incentivising those clubs having a bad year to just write it off. With no relegation system, there's nothing to worry about in that regard.
     
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    You can’t be serious about 2nd and 8th. The 2 grand final weeks in 09 and 10 were my best in afl footy. Results terrible but I would never take them back. Anyway I want to win every game. If it was round 23 and a win would pick one I would still rather win. I never want to go to a game wanting to lose. I see no point in watching if that is the case.


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  19. St Kilda Death

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    Its Carlisle and Gresham
    Vs
    Francis, bird and some other guy they delisted

    Parish had nothing to do with the trade.
    Their already existing 1st pick.
     
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    Probably a bit hyperbolic about 2nd and 8th, yeah. But I stand by the point, and I don't feel the same as you about individual wins. In your round 23 example, sitting in the stands at that game I'd absolutely want to win. But a couple of days after a loss which sealed us pick one, I wouldn't feel too bad.
     
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    There absolutely is.

    What can happen is you lose chasing high picks and end up creating a losing culture that is hard to break so once you have stocked up it’s hard to get up the ladder again. Melbourne prime example again.

    Then you develop some good players but they want to leave for ‘winning’ clubs and you get picks in return and back to square 1.

    EDIT: It’s palatable for me that we are having an off year in a super draft year, but I don’t believe we are tanking right now or would be okay with that. Hand has been forced a bit through injuries......but there is one nagging doubt I have...
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    Totally agree after the event


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    He also said we should trade Billings to Norf for pick #11 & #29....
     
  24. triggering bro

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    How shit house is Richo though?
     
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    Didn't like that part