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How many chances do the selectors get ??
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that depends.
are they West Australian?
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seriously though. we have no batsmen demanding to be picked, Holland is the second best spinner and 2 of our best quicks are injured so Siddle was thrown in to protect young, up and coming bowlers from what can be a thoroughly demoralising task on subcontinent wickets.
basically, we are s**t.
basically, we are s**t.
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Maxwell should never have been left at home. Mitch Marsh batting at 4 in a a Test Match with an average of 20 odd..please, that just boarders on stupidity
Say what you like no way Maxwell would have been able to play the patient game like Head and conjure up a draw.
Finch has surprised, Khawaja to open inspired picks. Siddle has played role. Marsh were in anyway. Starc has been pathetic was in anyway. Paine has done well. Holland deserved his shot, blown it. Lambushcane isn't ready that's obvious but who's the equivalent? Missing Smith, Warner the side is going to struggle.
Seriously Head, Burns, Renshaw all wouldn't have made lick of difference.
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Finch has surprised, Khawaja to open inspired picks. Siddle has played role. Marsh were in anyway. Starc has been pathetic was in anyway. Paine has done well. Holland deserved his shot, blown it. Lambushcane isn't ready that's obvious but who's the equivalent? Missing Smith, Warner the side is going to struggle.
Seriously Head, Burns, Renshaw all wouldn't have made lick of difference.
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I’d have taken Maxwell but it’s not like he’s an amazing player. I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder. Should get the home series to cement himself.
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It's a bit more than just this tour with Maxwell. He was the incumbent 5 out of Bangladesh having done little wrong in that series, and was overlooked for the Ashes in favour of Marsh who despite his runs in the Ashes doesn't really look to be going anywhere and given the England team wasn't much chop there's no suggesting that Maxwell wouldn't have done similairly. He's also pretty good in the field and again with our three exiles missing, that side of the team looks to be weaker too.
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So Maxwell didnt have the patients when he made his ton ?? At least he has performed over there unlike the ones they selected
Career wise you can cite one hundred that was two years ago. Do i think he could face 190 balls with the objective being a draw? Not a hope in hell. Look i think he'll get a chance for Marsh this summer but the output will be similar medium to long term and Head, Lambuche, Renshaw, Handscomb all look like better long term options for mine.
Maxwell is 31 and judging by his Jlt form hardly set the world on fire. If i honestly thought I'd seen him adapt his game and develop it like Finch in the last two years I'd be all in but for me he's the same flaky player with questionable shot choices. You can argue the same for Head, Lambuche ect but they're on first go Glenn isn't unfortunately.
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Doesn't help when our 2 best batsmen were caught cheating and added to that Bancroft is a better batsman than Labuschagne and Head (perhaps Finch too but I've liked what he's done so far). Just highlights the lack of depth there is when it comes to batsmen.
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Callum Ferguson deserved a recall ahead of Laubschagne.
So a steady right-armer with a bit of height, some but not heaps of sideways movement, and unerring accuracy, playing mostly on lifeless wickets, has broken record after record in his first 10 tests, and has absolutely destroyed Australia this series.
Now watch this summer as Trent Copeland on the back of 6-fer in the season opener, takes 50 Shield wickets and doesn’t even get mentioned as a potential test player.
Now watch this summer as Trent Copeland on the back of 6-fer in the season opener, takes 50 Shield wickets and doesn’t even get mentioned as a potential test player.
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Abbas on a hat trick now.
Now being the slowest seam bowler is something that keeps players OUT of the Australian team..... 3 of them with 60+ FC matches and 25 averages are playing in Adelaide this week and all three can bowl long spells and all three are in form (Sayers 6-150-46ov match figures, Mennie 6-80-38ov, Copeland 9-130-49ov) and are being ignored. If only their surname was Marsh....
94 players have played 30 Tests for Australia
Of those, take out the 8 specialist wicket-keepers
Of the remaining 86, take out the 33 took 100 Test wickets
Of the remaining 53, take out the 6 with 20 wickets with averages under 35.
Of the remaining 47, these are the worst 10 batting averages (ie, the worst averages but blokes with 30 Tests who weren't specialist bowlers or keepers)
24.53 - Syd Gregory
26.09 - Mitchell Marsh
26.64 - John Dyson
28.56 - Joe Darling
31.83 - Graeme Wood
33.18 - Geoff Marsh
33.91 - Paul Sheahan
34.03 - Greg Blewett
35.20 - Greg Ritchie
35.29- Shaun Marsh
If the selectors keep picking these spuds then, yeah, sack 'em.
Of those, take out the 8 specialist wicket-keepers
Of the remaining 86, take out the 33 took 100 Test wickets
Of the remaining 53, take out the 6 with 20 wickets with averages under 35.
Of the remaining 47, these are the worst 10 batting averages (ie, the worst averages but blokes with 30 Tests who weren't specialist bowlers or keepers)
24.53 - Syd Gregory
26.09 - Mitchell Marsh
26.64 - John Dyson
28.56 - Joe Darling
31.83 - Graeme Wood
33.18 - Geoff Marsh
33.91 - Paul Sheahan
34.03 - Greg Blewett
35.20 - Greg Ritchie
35.29- Shaun Marsh
If the selectors keep picking these spuds then, yeah, sack 'em.
How much have the selectors actually got wrong? As opposed to marginal calls where another choice could be argued for but wuld probably make little difference - and the selection made was equally defensible.
Just because we're s**t away from home doesn't mean the selections are wrong. Blaming the selectors only works when there are clearly superior options not taken. (As much as I don't trust his "brain", Maxwell was probably one of those for the UAE tour.)
Blaming the selecctor is a bit like blaming the coach in footy. Always done, but if there's no talent is it really their fault? In footy, if after a few years if they have been given the opportunity to develop a list, then fair call. Selectors don't even get that option, they don't control the talent pool or the focus on T20, or the way youth are developed, or even the coaching once in the national setup.
Just because we're s**t away from home doesn't mean the selections are wrong. Blaming the selectors only works when there are clearly superior options not taken. (As much as I don't trust his "brain", Maxwell was probably one of those for the UAE tour.)
Blaming the selecctor is a bit like blaming the coach in footy. Always done, but if there's no talent is it really their fault? In footy, if after a few years if they have been given the opportunity to develop a list, then fair call. Selectors don't even get that option, they don't control the talent pool or the focus on T20, or the way youth are developed, or even the coaching once in the national setup.
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Mitch and Shaun Marsh were always going to be selected for this tour. They deserved it off the back of the Ashes and although they had ordinary results in SA, given the suspensions you dont just go handing out 4 or 5 new baggy greens at the start of the series or even send out a whole new top order and expect good results. It was hoped they would stand up against Pakistan. Clearly they didnt and now its probably time to move them on.
Maxwell was horribly mistreated with regards to the Australia A tour and being held back from selection there. That was just idiotic.
Maxwell was horribly mistreated with regards to the Australia A tour and being held back from selection there. That was just idiotic.
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Well they did get Finch absolutely right, and that was not a call that many would have made.
SOS deserved his spot on recent runs as much as any other Australian batsman really. Ditto Mitch, although I agree he should never be a test #4.
The only odd things are the Maxwell and Renshaw treatment with respect to the messages not matching the facts. I think you're kidding yourself if having those two would have made a lick of difference though.
We have 4 (probably effectively 3) more rounds of shield before the 1st test so it will be interesting to see what happens there.
SOS deserved his spot on recent runs as much as any other Australian batsman really. Ditto Mitch, although I agree he should never be a test #4.
The only odd things are the Maxwell and Renshaw treatment with respect to the messages not matching the facts. I think you're kidding yourself if having those two would have made a lick of difference though.
We have 4 (probably effectively 3) more rounds of shield before the 1st test so it will be interesting to see what happens there.
Why did he miss the first Shield match?
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Eh. I don't think it's reasonable to complain about him missing shield either. He is quite clearly in the best ~15 or so T20 players in Australia I feel and it would have been more egregious to leave him out of that than it would the test series, and no doubt people would have complained either way.
Had to fly to the UAE for the T20 squad.
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And batting Maxwell currently averaging 26 would make much difference. They both have flaws and they both get found out at test level.
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