Sacramento Kings Thread
- Thread starter Crafted
- Start date
- Tagged users None
wce_all_da_way
Norm Smith Medallist
Zero complaints so far... It's absurd to be confident with a 4th quarter lead, to be confident that we'll beat an average team. What are these things??
nufan
Norm Smith Medallist
Narrator: It did notI just hope it lasts nufan
nufan
Norm Smith Medallist
Ok king's fam. There is a long standing love from the old heads on this board for 2 struggling franchises.
I have spoken to the brethren from The Pelican Brief.
If our team moves to Seattle can we all get NBA asylum?
I can bring a more creative thread title if that doesn't sound too condescending
I have spoken to the brethren from The Pelican Brief.
If our team moves to Seattle can we all get NBA asylum?
I can bring a more creative thread title if that doesn't sound too condescending
nufan
Norm Smith Medallist
Look, I love you guys. I already spoken to your higher ups about merging.
Temper your excitement. Likely neither happen
- Sep 21, 2004
- 46,520
- 52,801
- AFL Club
- GWS
I come in peace.
Harrison Barnes is a really interesting player. His first 2 years in Dallas flashed a game that I never noticed in GS. He could hit tough shots off the dribble and create for himself. He isn't a dribbler. He basically makes 1 move and drives straight, but he had a little pull up game. The issue was he was a mildly efficient player who did'nt shoot enough 3s, get to the line or create for anyone.
When Doncic came, part of his game because what was hoped. He increased his 3 point quantity, and his accuracy also increased. He is a legit good spot up shooter. But the rest of his game cratered. His rebounding fell off a cliff. Became a bigger black hole. And his off the bounce game disappeared. He can defend ok though.
He's a very mechanical player, and every move seems pre-rehearsed. Classic 'if he ever puts it all together...' player.
Harrison Barnes is a really interesting player. His first 2 years in Dallas flashed a game that I never noticed in GS. He could hit tough shots off the dribble and create for himself. He isn't a dribbler. He basically makes 1 move and drives straight, but he had a little pull up game. The issue was he was a mildly efficient player who did'nt shoot enough 3s, get to the line or create for anyone.
When Doncic came, part of his game because what was hoped. He increased his 3 point quantity, and his accuracy also increased. He is a legit good spot up shooter. But the rest of his game cratered. His rebounding fell off a cliff. Became a bigger black hole. And his off the bounce game disappeared. He can defend ok though.
He's a very mechanical player, and every move seems pre-rehearsed. Classic 'if he ever puts it all together...' player.
nufan
Norm Smith Medallist
It's a strange trade for the Kings.
I have faith in Barnes but his contract doesn't quite fit his output.
The upside is massive as I really don't think he wanted to play a Dallas, but Warriors wouldn't pay him what he could get paid somewhere else.
I sincerely hope the Kings absolutely love him mid term to fit around the core they are building into a good roster.
If not the just gave the Mavs cap relief.
I like both teams so I hope it works out well for everyone
I have faith in Barnes but his contract doesn't quite fit his output.
The upside is massive as I really don't think he wanted to play a Dallas, but Warriors wouldn't pay him what he could get paid somewhere else.
I sincerely hope the Kings absolutely love him mid term to fit around the core they are building into a good roster.
If not the just gave the Mavs cap relief.
I like both teams so I hope it works out well for everyone
Clippers are going into a major tank mode to keep that pick. Lakers are self combusting (ain’t it great?!) and your mob is unlikely to tade AD to them before the deadline....in fact they would be dumb to do it. Door is all of a sudden opening up for the Kings.
Stacked with good young talent and they just improved their talent level and addressed major position of need. Barnes is the best option we have had as SF since Gay. He is not expected to be a top scorer. In fact he will likely be #3 option and in time #4 on the team. His long range shooting opens up things for Fox even more.
Burks adds another creator off the bench which takes the load off Bogdanović who doesn’t have to be a sole creator off the bench and he can play his more natural game.
Essentially, Kings traded away Shumpert (big cultural loss), Randolph (has not played a second this year) Justin Jackson (9th-10th man) for Barnes, Burks and 2nd round pick. Barnes addresses the long term option at SF (fits the age profile and what Kings need from a SF).
I am pretty optimistic about our chances.
Kings fans didn’t like the inconsistency but I think he will be a very solid 3 and D player who has a pretty good floater off a dribble or two when the opponent closes out.
Not going to be a star but the sort of player who will play his role and try hard defensively. Great guy too. He is going to a good franchise with a very good coach.
WWSD
Premium Platinum
Veteran
10k Posts
Hawthorn Hawks - Conor Nash Player Sponsor 2020
Hawthorn Hawks - James Cousins Player Sponsor 2020
Hawthorn Hawks - Conor Nash Player Sponsor 2019
Hawthorn Hawks - James Cousins Player Sponsor 2019
Hawthorn Hawks - Conor Nash Player Sponsor 2018
Hawthorn Hawks - James Cousins Player Sponsor 2018
What are some people’s thoughts on where the Kings sit heading into the off-season? For the first time ever I can confidently say as a Kings fan that they will make the playoffs next year.
Fox, Hield and Bagley are All-Star potential. If those three keep on improving then I see no reason as to why the Kings won’t be a top 5 team in the Western Conference in 2019-20.
The Kings have one major deficiency and that is the centre position. Cauley-Stein should just walk as a free agent. He’s not worth the big money and he’s too inconsistent. A player like Nikola Vucevic is exactly what Sacramento needs going forward. He would mesh nicely alongside Bjelica and Bogdanovic.
Fox, Hield and Bagley are All-Star potential. If those three keep on improving then I see no reason as to why the Kings won’t be a top 5 team in the Western Conference in 2019-20.
The Kings have one major deficiency and that is the centre position. Cauley-Stein should just walk as a free agent. He’s not worth the big money and he’s too inconsistent. A player like Nikola Vucevic is exactly what Sacramento needs going forward. He would mesh nicely alongside Bjelica and Bogdanovic.
Upgrayedd
A Vote for Clive is a Vote for Justice
Dogfight in the West. Love Bagley however I think teams will stout him more
Under rated bench as well.
Hated the Barnes pick up. Have you in the 5-11 range.
Under rated bench as well.
Hated the Barnes pick up. Have you in the 5-11 range.
PG: De'Aaron Fox, Corey Joseph, Yogi Farrell, Frank Mason
SG: Buddy Hield, Bogdan Bogdanovic
SF: Harrison Barnes, Trevor Ariza, BJ Johnson
PF: Marvin Bagley, Harry Giles, Nemanja Bjelica, Caleb Swanigan
C: Dewayne Dedmon, Richaun Holmes
Really liking the depth we have at all positions. Adding some vets to our team while also improving on some areas (Dedmon over WCS)
I did some quick salary work (not 100% accurate in the numbers) but it's nice to see that the deals of Joseph, Ariza and Dedmon all have last year partial guarantees and all fall in line with Bagley and Fox's extensions. I'm slightly worried about Hield and Bogdanovic who are both expiring at the end of next season and will probably get paid.
Looking forward to next year as I really think we can push to that 8th to 5th range.
SG: Buddy Hield, Bogdan Bogdanovic
SF: Harrison Barnes, Trevor Ariza, BJ Johnson
PF: Marvin Bagley, Harry Giles, Nemanja Bjelica, Caleb Swanigan
C: Dewayne Dedmon, Richaun Holmes
Really liking the depth we have at all positions. Adding some vets to our team while also improving on some areas (Dedmon over WCS)
I did some quick salary work (not 100% accurate in the numbers) but it's nice to see that the deals of Joseph, Ariza and Dedmon all have last year partial guarantees and all fall in line with Bagley and Fox's extensions. I'm slightly worried about Hield and Bogdanovic who are both expiring at the end of next season and will probably get paid.
| Player | Age | 2019-20 | 2020-21 | 2021-22 | 2022-23 |
| Harrison Barnes | 27 | $ 23,000,000.00 | $ 22,000,000.00 | $ 21,000,000.00 | $ 19,000,000.00 |
| Bogdan Bogdanovic | 26 | $ 8,529,386.00 | |||
| Marvin Bagley | 20 | $ 8,556,120.00 | $ 8,963,640.00 | $ 11,312,114.00 | |
| Nemanja Bjelica | 31 | $ 6,825,000.00 | $ 7,150,000.00 | ||
| De'Aaron Fox | 21 | $ 6,392,760.00 | $ 8,099,627.00 | ||
| Buddy Hield | 26 | $ 4,861,208.00 | |||
| Yogi Ferrell | 26 | $ 3,150,000.00 | |||
| Harry Giles | 21 | $ 2,578,800.00 | $ 3,976,510.00 | ||
| Caleb Swanigan | 22 | $ 2,033,160.00 | $ 3,665,787.00 | ||
| Frank Mason | 25 | $ 1,618,520.00 | |||
| B.J. Johnson | 23 | $ 1,416,852.00 | |||
| Dewayne Dedmon | 29 | $ 13,600,000.00 | $ 13,600,000.00 | $ | |
| Corey Joseph | 27 | $ 12,333,333.00 | $ 12,333,333.00 | $ | |
| Trevor Ariza | 34 | $ 12,500,000.00 | $ | ||
| Richaun Holmes | 25 | $ 5,000,000.00 | $ 5,000,000.00 | ||
| Justin James | 22 | Rookie (Not sure on $) | |||
| Kyle Guy | 21 | Rookie (Not sure on $) | |||
| Matt Barnes (Left over from stretch provision when Waived) | 39 | $ 2,133,541.00 | |||
| Team Totals | $ 112,395,139.00 | $ 97,288,897.00 | $ 58,245,447.00 | $ 19,000,000.00 | |
| Team Option | Guaranteed | ||||
Looking forward to next year as I really think we can push to that 8th to 5th range.
Frank Mason III was waived today. Which doesn't surprise me, he was always going to struggle for minutes behind Fox/Joseph/Farrell.
Hopefully he finds a team.
Hopefully he finds a team.
Xhoquelin
Club Legend
- Dec 4, 2016
- 1,099
- 1,120
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Arsenal, Charlotte Hornets
G’day everyone.
Wrote a piece on my boy Richaun Holmes and his importance to the Kings this past season.
Would appreciate you guys giving it a read, any feedback and criticism would be even moreso appreciated.
Wrote a piece on my boy Richaun Holmes and his importance to the Kings this past season.
Would appreciate you guys giving it a read, any feedback and criticism would be even moreso appreciated.
miggs
In BC Exile
- Sep 18, 2015
- 14,665
- 24,150
- AFL Club
- Sydney
We are sorely missing his rim presence in these scrimmage games. Hopefully hes back in soon and we can have a tilt at playoffs.
Fixture has worked out well for us, Facing the tougher teams right at the end when theyve hopefully already clinched so they may rest the stars before playoffs
Fixture has worked out well for us, Facing the tougher teams right at the end when theyve hopefully already clinched so they may rest the stars before playoffs
Welcome to Basketball hell where having a "balanced roster" that gets you to about 10th seed is considered ok.
God we aren't going anywhere but that doesn't man I want to trade for Simmons either. I think we're officially a treadmill team now.
God we aren't going anywhere but that doesn't man I want to trade for Simmons either. I think we're officially a treadmill team now.
- Sep 21, 2004
- 46,520
- 52,801
- AFL Club
- GWS
Lol…now?
Yeah I think previously we were below a treadmill team but now we are smack in the middle
Just wake me up in 10 years or some s**t.
I want off this ride.
It's ****ed.
I want off this ride.
It's ****ed.
Still a treadmill team. Too good to bottom out and not good enough to even make a play in.
What a year with the upcoming draft to not fully suck.
Here's to another pick 7 next year that may just well be a role player but will end up on some other team anyway.
- Sep 26, 2012
- 34,819
- 51,606
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
I hope the Kings get Wembanyama. Haliburton and Wembanyama would have really been something, but I guess Fox and Sabonis might get them to a play in
We're not bad enough for a high % chance at #1 so unless a miracle that ain't gonna happen
Similar threads
- Locked
- Poll
- Locked
- Poll
