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Cooksen

Hall of Famer
Jun 18, 2011
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52,619
Flying On A Prawn
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St Kilda
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Thoughts on Lonie's worth? Article on Foxsports says we're chasing him. Earlier in the year I didn't think it would be a bad idea given we need pressure smalls, but I'm pretty convinced we already have a player like that now (Cavarra). Regardless, keen to hear what people think a Lonie trade would actually look like, because I feel my own valuation is probably way off (don't rate him much at all, wouldn't be happy with anything above a late 3rd rounder, but I also recognise that could be off the mark)
3rd rounder with some 5th round pick swaps or something like that
 

Roddy Grant

Senior List
Jan 24, 2020
259
1,162
AFL Club
St Kilda
Thoughts on Lonie's worth? Article on Foxsports says we're chasing him. Earlier in the year I didn't think it would be a bad idea given we need pressure smalls, but I'm pretty convinced we already have a player like that now (Cavarra). Regardless, keen to hear what people think a Lonie trade would actually look like, because I feel my own valuation is probably way off (don't rate him much at all, wouldn't be happy with anything above a late 3rd rounder, but I also recognise that could be off the mark)
Lonie is pretty consistent and not a bad small forward. He isn’t strong enough or physical enough to stick many tackles although he does bring decent pressure. Quite often that lets teams out of the back.

He has been quite good at milking frees and 50m penalties, think he pisses the opposition off a lot.

Would guess third rounder, he is OOC and apparently almost left when we only offered him 1 year last time (source unknown).

He has been quite good at milking frees and 50m penalties, think he pisses the opposition off a lot.

Aside from Butler you can have any of our small forwards and if you take Lonie and endurance running midfielder Daniel McKenzie we will give you a third rounder instead.
 

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projectv

i write sins not tragedies
May 27, 2017
3,675
4,807
AFL Club
St Kilda
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Swamprats
For young gun Jade Gresham, Geary has clearly been much more than a teammate and captain.

“He was the guy I roomed with at pre-season camp just after I first arrived at the club and he’s looked after me ever since,” he said.

“He lets you know when your standards aren’t up to it, when you haven’t run well enough in the time trial for example.

“He gives you a bit of tough love for a day or two, but then he’s the first to get around you and make you know that he is going to help you get better.

I feel like he has taken me under his win, but I think a lot of guys would say the same thing".




I'm going to say those within the club have a better idea what he brings to the playing group and around the club than we do.
I could easily see him becoming an assistant coach. Not denying his ability to lead but his days as an AFL player are surely over.
 

projectv

i write sins not tragedies
May 27, 2017
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St Kilda
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Trade: Carlisle, Lonie - not sure if we'd get much for them though.
Try and keep: Zak Jones, Butler, Ryder, Bytel, Paton, Hind, Bell
Delist: Savage, Geary, Austin, Parker, Clavarino, Alabakis, Langlands, Mayo
Probably keep around as depth but if we lost them I wouldn't really care: Savage, Abbott, Ed Phillips, Marsh.

If we seriously shopped Seb Ross around I wouldn't shed a tear either.
 

gringo2011

Hall of Famer
Nov 12, 2011
31,855
75,813
Melbourne
AFL Club
St Kilda
Yeah because we never use first round picks...

Sorry you obviously think we're right for a Premiership next year and our list of champions will carry us to a three-peat. We have one A grade player this year, probably the worst midfield in AFL if you stack them side by side with most clubs and a lack of elite players. If we want to stay mediocre, we should trade for more Hill/ Howard deals.

Acres would have Hill covered in quality on this years form and Howard has just replaced Jake. We gave away our pick 6 which should have netted a good player and paid for Hanners with a second rounder. Players taken after 6 look like they will be stars already. The elite talent usually comes in the high first round.

Apart from Marshall our best kids came in the first round. Our list management is still poor but our better than expected ladder position has helped paper over cracks. If we start to stall they will get questioned.
 

Mowman

Premium Gold
May 19, 2013
11,312
31,163
AFL Club
St Kilda
Sorry you obviously think we're right for a Premiership next year and our list of champions will carry us to a three-peat. We have one A grade player this year, probably the worst midfield in AFL if you stack them side by side with most clubs and a lack of elite players. If we want to stay mediocre, we should trade for more Hill/ Howard deals.

Acres would have Hill covered in quality on this years form and Howard has just replaced Jake. We gave away our pick 6 which should have netted a good player and paid for Hanners with a second rounder. Players taken after 6 look like they will be stars already. The elite talent usually comes in the high first round.

Apart from Marshall our best kids came in the first round. Our list management is still poor but our better than expected ladder position has helped paper over cracks. If we start to stall they will get questioned.
I dont think we're right for a premiership next year, think we might even find it harder next year with 22rnds and longer quarters with such a young core. But really believe with have a very good young core and the makings off a really good side
Steele
Clark
Coffield
Paton
King
Battle
Marshal
Howard ( I rate highly give him another season )
Gresham
Bytel
Byrnes
Wilkie
Butler
Thats our future core to build around

Experienced Players we should be able to rely on
Jones
Billings
Sincs
Hannebury
Ross ( if you could get a 1st rnd pick take it )
Ryder
Membrey

Add Williams & Cadwell and its not looking to bad as hard as the last few weeks have been we have improved plenty, improve again this much again next year and we are not far off being a very good side
 

bird_man

Brownlow Medallist
Jan 14, 2012
24,206
49,790
The River Murray
AFL Club
St Kilda
Sorry you obviously think we're right for a Premiership next year and our list of champions will carry us to a three-peat. We have one A grade player this year, probably the worst midfield in AFL if you stack them side by side with most clubs and a lack of elite players. If we want to stay mediocre, we should trade for more Hill/ Howard deals.

Acres would have Hill covered in quality on this years form and Howard has just replaced Jake. We gave away our pick 6 which should have netted a good player and paid for Hanners with a second rounder. Players taken after 6 look like they will be stars already. The elite talent usually comes in the high first round.

Apart from Marshall our best kids came in the first round. Our list management is still poor but our better than expected ladder position has helped paper over cracks. If we start to stall they will get questioned.
Lol

That's a nice tangent you've gone on there old mate, but it has little to do with my comment?

When did I say we'd win a premiership next year? Or even say anything close to that?

You need to get outside and do a bit of excersise or something, you sound like miserable old prick
 

hayes

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 9, 2008
13,776
14,601
Melbourne
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Lol

That's a nice tangent you've gone on there old mate, but it has little to do with my comment?

When did I say we'd win a premiership next year? Or even say anything close to that?

You need to get outside and do a bit of excersise or something, you sound like miserable old prick
That’s just gringo after a loss mate, give us one win and we’ll be back on track for that top 4 finish next year.

You know it’s true gringo!
 

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