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The backstage people at the Saints have often been filthy grubs (not always, but often enough for it to be discussed in public).

E.g. Pedophiles. (Warning: story discusses historical sexual abuse). https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05...ood-dreams-into-nightmares-st-kilda/100080988

Financially grubby:

Too many to list:

* Paying Kim Duthie's hotel bills where the infamous photo with her and Ricky Nixon was taken.

* Paying out a dwarf for the players burning his shoes and costume.

*Keeping Jim O'Dea around the club (as an assistant coach and later a board member) despite the John Greening assault.

* More recently, asking Jarryd Allen, a permanently injured player, to nominally stay on the list for salary cap reasons... then denying injury compensation because he technically stayed on the list for a year.

* Covering up many crimes against women, and keeping the perpetrators on the list. No names sorry. But that kind of act has probably occurred at lots of clubs.

* Racist acts (too many to mention).

* Celebrating thugs for their violent behaiours on the field.

* Allowing people to stay at the club after they tried to cheat by soaking the ground with water.

* Lots of scummy financial stuff to players and others.

* Lying so often to members.

There are so many acts that I've seen in my lifetime, I've often been ashamed to be a St Kilda fan and member. I wish it was more acceptable to change clubs, often.
 
Getting a club's shit together off the field is the first step to success. Sainter3and7 I hope for you and other long suffering supporters that this is happening.
 
Sainter3and7 said:
I wish it was more acceptable to change clubs, often.
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From time to time the competition does provide those opportunities. The last one was the Suns. The next one will be the Devils. You’ve got a few years to plan your transition.
 

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Atomboy I'm not a troll. I'm an old man who has followed the Saints all my life. I could talk to you about the fights people had when we moved from the Junction Oval. I can still sing the club song from that time. I'm still dirty at my brother who said he was getting me a ticket to the 1971 grand final versus the Hawks and he didn't. I've met many many legends of the club, over many decades, who are no longer with us. I remember the shenannigans when Ian Stewart left us for Richmond. Afterwards, he personally told me he played badly against them that year so that the Saints would think higher of Billy Barrett. I remember the old days. Like when Neil Roberts, an absolute club legend, had a bitter argument with Alan Jeans and was basically pushed into retirement. Not just the doldrums of the 80s, or the Save Our Saints campaign, or the celebrations when Barry Breen played his 300th game. Or when Trevor Barker played, or died. Or Danny. If you name one of the stars of our club from the 50s to the early 2000s, I could tell you a personal story about them. I'm not involved like that now. Im old. But troll... yeah, nah.
 
Sainter3and7 said:
Atomboy I'm not a troll. I'm an old man who has followed the Saints all my life. I could talk to you about the fights people had when we moved from the Junction Oval. I can still sing the club song from that time. I'm still dirty at my brother who said he was getting me a ticket to the 1971 grand final versus the Hawks and he didn't. I've met many many legends of the club, over many decades, who are no longer with us. I remember the shenannigans when Ian Stewart left us for Richmond. Afterwards, he personally told me he played badly against them that year so that the Saints would think higher of Billy Barrett. I remember the old days. Like when Neil Roberts, an absolute club legend, had a bitter argument with Alan Jeans and was basically pushed into retirement. Not just the doldrums of the 80s, or the Save Our Saints campaign, or the celebrations when Barry Breen played his 300th game. Or when Trevor Barker played, or died. Or Danny. If you name one of the stars of our club from the 50s to the early 2000s, I could tell you a personal story about them. I'm not involved like that now. Im old. But troll... yeah, nah.
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With friends like you, who needs enemies.
 
Saints43 said:
With friends like you, who needs enemies.
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A bit harsh, the old fella has just seen enough over the years to be jaded. Can completely related with how Essendon have been run as a club since the early 2000’s,
 
Funny how pissy some supporters get just because one of their own can also manage to be critical of the club they support and not just blindly defend them to the death.

Old mate's probably done more to support the club than any of the guys having a sook about him being honest.
 

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craffles said:
A bit harsh, the old fella has just seen enough over the years to be jaded. Can completely related with how Essendon have been run as a club since the early 2000’s,
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I think anyone who can allow themselves to be 'jaded' by an organisation that they have nothing to do with, other than choosing to barrack for them - is beyond help.
 
All clubs have their skeletons .... and some have bigger closets than others ... with bigger more advanced locks

Sure we have fkd up many times but we ain't on our lonesome and opposition supporters shouldnt pretend that their own clubs have clean scarless dicks

As unsuccessful as we have been ..... we are still here ... that in itself is a striking achievement
 
Ando727 said:
lol, do you even football? Being jaded comes with the territory. Some teams more than others...
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I can relate to bring bummed about your team losing - but even remotely giving a shit about their front office shit?? Why on earth would someone link their own personal well being to that?? What does that have to do with them
 
Post created by a disgruntled Carlton fan, I assume this is because of the TDK free agency coup, if so, have a flipping sook lmao
 
GudOnya said:
Funny how pissy some supporters get just because one of their own can also manage to be critical of the club they support and not just blindly defend them to the death.

Old mate's probably done more to support the club than any of the guys having a sook about him being honest.
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There’s a difference between criticizing the club and admitting you want to barrack for someone else. Just switch teams at that point.

Nobody cares if you change teams, don’t just think about doing it - do it.
 

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jwikked said:
There’s a difference between criticizing the club and admitting you want to barrack for someone else. Just switch teams at that point.

Nobody cares if you change teams, don’t just think about doing it - do it.
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And aside from probably Tasmania (because they don't even exist yet), good luck finding another club that hasn't done all the exact same shit over the years.
 
jwikked said:
There’s a difference between criticizing the club and admitting you want to barrack for someone else. Just switch teams at that point.

Nobody cares if you change teams, don’t just think about doing it - do it.
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Personally I did exactly that, but the comments in here reflect that people do care otherwise they wouldn't be commenting about him. The man is obviously just passionate about his club, and passion often leads to pain. Anyway he didn't admit he wanted to barrack for someone else, he said he has often felt ashamed about the Saints and had wished that it was more acceptable to switch teams, not that he was going to or wanted to.

I am still a Carlton member, and probably will remain one, I'm sure I don't need to list their many mistakes (to put it politely) but there's certainly some skeletons in their closet that I'm not proud of as a member.
 
BF Tiger said:
You think Lindsay Fox would just pay out... drop in the ocean for him.
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You dont get rich handing out money to people. Unless you're Mr Beast I guess.

MUFASA12 said:
Post created by a disgruntled Carlton fan, I assume this is because of the TDK free agency coup, if so, have a flipping sook lmao
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Nothing to see here I guess? Who cares if your club spent decades ripping off players, coaches, and administrators. As long as you get the silverware its all good !!

Oh wait...
 
HairyO said:
You dont get rich handing out money to people. Unless you're Mr Beast I guess.



Nothing to see here I guess? Who cares if your club spent decades ripping off players, coaches, and administrators. As long as you get the silverware its all good !!

Oh wait...
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Sainter3and7 said:
Atomboy I'm not a troll. I'm an old man who has followed the Saints all my life. I could talk to you about the fights people had when we moved from the Junction Oval. I can still sing the club song from that time. I'm still dirty at my brother who said he was getting me a ticket to the 1971 grand final versus the Hawks and he didn't. I've met many many legends of the club, over many decades, who are no longer with us. I remember the shenannigans when Ian Stewart left us for Richmond. Afterwards, he personally told me he played badly against them that year so that the Saints would think higher of Billy Barrett. I remember the old days. Like when Neil Roberts, an absolute club legend, had a bitter argument with Alan Jeans and was basically pushed into retirement. Not just the doldrums of the 80s, or the Save Our Saints campaign, or the celebrations when Barry Breen played his 300th game. Or when Trevor Barker played, or died. Or Danny. If you name one of the stars of our club from the 50s to the early 2000s, I could tell you a personal story about them. I'm not involved like that now. Im old. But troll... yeah, nah.
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My Dad is a Saints fan and also an old man and just like you he is very jaded despite his love for the club. He was a little kid when Breen kicked that point and he still loves to talk about it even today. When I was young he practically disallowed me to become a Saints fan (mum was Cats) because he didn't want me to go through what he went through with the Saints.

On one hand I am grateful but on the other hand I can't help but feel sorry for him, you and other Saints fans like you. Football is awesome but it certainly isn't fair
 

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