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Autopsy Saints v Dees

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I just dk what to say.
Our ball use and skills are absolutely filthy.

Why do we insist on putting the guys under so much pressure with the fast hands.

I’m starting with the skippers.
When it mattered
Wilkie had one of his poorest games imo.
Sincs fluffed handballs he should have.
Hill the same as Sinclair.

Always thought SOS and was a cancer.

Those Carlton rejects make my blood boil.

Apart from Hall everyone should be ashamed of themselves.

Wilson and Tauru had their moments as did Garcia. The rest of them not much.

I seriously Dk how Flanders got so soft and his dinky shit kicks are didgusting.

Ryan- yea ok cool mark but the ball is walking out of defence.

TDK 1.6 to be run over by Gawn.

Silvagni worked hard but those lax kicks.

The missing.
It’s pretty evident we don’t have any real leadership on field. All Sinclair’s captaincy style seems to be is pointing and complaining like a late career Brendan Goddard. He’s gotten worse under the captaincy like an English cricketer.
 
Caminiti out Barrat in I don't care I just want to see if he can play at this stage

Move Taaru to KPF while king is out once again don't care just want to see him play with some freedom.

Nas needs to learn to break a tag and Ross needs to Bloody learn our team isn't just NAS

TDK battled like a warrior all game no issues
Max Hall take a bow
Mitch Owens fought hard
Windy fought hard


Tauru isn't ready. The kids looked poor and the recruits looked like a sideways move.
 
Beyond disappointed. Was looking forward to bit of cheer given the circumstances here at the moment. Oh well. Might have to turn to drink.

Only thing I can take out is that we played terribly both weeks and we were still in it. And lost both due pretty much to our own mistakes.

We seem to be trying to play a fast expansive game. Looks good at times and we look dangerous. But our skill levels and connection lets us down.

Don’t know the stats but the amount of scores we have given up on turnover must be very high.

And those skill mistakes don’t allow us to take advantage of our better passages of play. So we are getting killed both ways. Can’t win doing that. But remarkably we have stayed in both games.

Going to have to let this sink in before more comment. Some bright things. Max Hall is heading for All Australian.
 

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Why was NAS off the field for what seemed like an eternity, right after his goal, when we had the momentum and f50 ball?

We're tanking.

Listen to all the messaging through the media, especially from ex Saints - "They didn't make these moves for 2026."

The narrative is already being positioned that we aren't expecting to gel this year and that we are planning for 2027 and beyond.

We are tanking this year for one more top 5-8 pick before we actually try.

/cope
 
'Hey, mid who uses pace in space to break lines and get separation for delivery before working further off their man... Yeah, why don't you play in the most congested part of the ground, run away from goal and have a shot under pressure every time you touch it'
 
Mitchito, Hall, Windy, Tauru, Garcia, Hill, Ryan, Wilson ticks, the rest were atrocious.

The Keeler 1v1 in the goal square where he gets outdone by a flanker half his size just sums it up really.

As uncharacteristic game I’ve seen Wilkie and Sincs ever play.

As much as a love TDK when he gets going, 1.8m a year for a ruck who can’t run it out.

It’s not clear what Carrol’s role is either, may as well bring Stocker back in until LOC fit, if he can’t use the pill, can’t defend, and can’t win a ground ball.
 
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We are the masters of getting ahead ourselves, everyone around the club was suggesting how good we were looking. Guess what we are still a very poorly skilled/ordinary football side.

We have played and lost to two middle of the road teams and found ways to lose. Couldnt have had a worse start really.

Blind freddy could tell the game was going to quicker this year and it has basically found out way too many of our supposed first 23.

There is a long way to go, but my predictions re Ryan are looking solid. Great for a highlight moment, but he simply doesnt influence games when it matters.

Silvagni is slow and another turn over merchant, Flanders looks like a 2nd rate version of a midfielder and we still have no one in the forward line we can rely on to kick goals. WTF Lyon just doesnt return Nas to the HBF and play Windhager as a full time mid is ridiculous.

I repeat I am a fan of Lyon, but he wont get many more chances. You wouldnt think it was possible, but our skills seem worse than last year and we were once again cut up by a team prepared to handball outside the inner cricle to outside runners. It seems we are always 12 months behind game trends rather than leading them.
 
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Not the reason we lost but we won't win shit in the long run until we have someone to cover King. Look forward to us discussing a loss because of King juggling the ball on set shots.

Loss today is mostly on abhorrent skills and too many passengers.

Questioning if Macrae is still required if we are not playing deepnfinals. His output is basically Steele before we went out to get Jack because we needed him.

Also question if there is any side that can keep up with this game plan for 4 quarters. Don't think we need to have every player on the brink of exhaustion if we can't execute at the end of the play
 
Dropping

  • McRae
  • Wood
Keeler
Camaniti

I'd drop half the side. They aren't up to it effort wise. Flanders isn't good enough to play seniors. Silvagni is hopeless etc.

Play the kids. Garcia is getting better by the game. Get Wilson around the ball. **** these guys on too much money and not enough skill or heart.
 

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Coaches have got pre season horribly wrong. Not one line is working. The four key defenders doesn’t work. The forward mix is awful along with the structure and movement. without Hall we would have barley scored today. Seems to be a lack of pressure up there as well. Higgo’s pressure is a fraction of last year.

Hammer, Higgo, Sharman, McRae, Boxshall are all a mile of it.

Great to see NAS impact forward but gee we miss his influence on ball movement.

Didn’t mind Garcia’s game but he is no tough midfielder. More outside than inside.
 
We are the masters of getting ahead ourselves, everyone around the club was suggesting how good we were looking. Guess what we are still a very poorly skilled/ordinary football side.

We have played and lost to two middle of the road teams and found ways to lose. Couldnt have had a worse start really.

Blind freddy could tell the game was going to quicker this year and it has basicallty found out way too many of our supposed first 23.

There is a long way to go, but my predictions re Ryan are looking solid. Great for a highlight moment, but he simply doesnt influence games when it matters.

Silvagni is slow and another turn over merchant, Flanders looks like a 2nd rate version of a midfielder and we still have no one in the forward line we can rely on to kick goals. WTF Lyon just doesnt return Nas to the HBF and play Windhager as a full time mid is ridiculous.

I repeat I am a fan of Lyon, but he wont get many more chances. You wouldnt think it was possible, but our skills were terrible and we were once again cut up by a team prepared to handball outside the inner cricle to outside runners. It seems we are always 12 months behind game trends rather than leading them.


Nas HBF and Windy mid is way too obvious. He's stubborn as **** so we'll persist another month before the finals are blown and then try it.
 
Anyone got the scores off turnover? Seemed like Dees punished us time and time again whereas we missed our opportunities
 
I always want this team to prove my pessimism wrong and they alway always prove it right.

0-4, 1-5 by round 6 (based on Port looking like true shit) season done before mid year
The season is done now.

We are a bottom 4 side
 

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When are you Ross Lyon cultists going to wake up that he is so far past his used by date and has been for a long time?

What will it take to realise our collective kicking game will never be up to scratch with Ross in charge?

Get your head out of the sand for god’s sake. Our club depends on it.
I think he got everything he possibly could have out of the group in his first two years back, under the circumstances- tons of injuries and brutal draws to start the last two years, and a list getting younger by the year- but things have dropped off alarmingly since.

So is it a Ross problem, or has he handed the reigns to Enright and is his gameplan no good?

Whatever it is, the wheels have fallen off.
 
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Very much a 2008 season vibe. That year stupidly the team made top 4 and got thrashed. That team had Lenny, Roo, Fisher, Gram, BJ and Dal.

This year, this team will get thrashed regularly. Outside Nas, Wilkie, Hall and Sinclair, the cupboard is pretty bare. So, unlike 2008, the team will be very ordinary.
 

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