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Hate to be a realist, but Max is walking super gingerly favouring that knee, especially during a half assed contested marking drill. He's running and kicking fine so I reckon he just has zero confidence in that right knee.
Jimmy out there looks fine as well.
Good to see Doogs training in the fluoro, Hally out there so no injury concerns there.
Has he always walked with that limp (favouring one leg)?
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Maxy looking ripped. Can't wait to have him back in the team.
Yes. That's how he walks..
Rossy loves Lance and Tobes, you can just tell he has his little favourites.
Webster reappeared from rooms running laps.
Barrat into treatment room early on.
JC running laps, hammy can't be too bad.
Max went to treatment room, came back and is training but only jogging getting used to movements in the match sim stuff I'm guessing. It's when he is landing from a jump that he really has zero confidence in it to the point where he looks like he has just done his knee again and again. He looks slimmer than he did preseason, not a heap of muscle definition in his legs and chest - hes no Thilthorpe thats for sute. Nice to see him out there though - long way to go though in my opinion.
Hastie will be a player, he is very Nas-like in his movement, he is missing a bunch of targets by foot though which is a shame. Sort of like Nas, which is super frustrating considering just how good he is. Ronnie also very sloppy.
Stocker training strongly, Tobes is also putting his best foot forward
Webster reappeared from rooms running laps.
Barrat into treatment room early on.
JC running laps, hammy can't be too bad.
Max went to treatment room, came back and is training but only jogging getting used to movements in the match sim stuff I'm guessing. It's when he is landing from a jump that he really has zero confidence in it to the point where he looks like he has just done his knee again and again. He looks slimmer than he did preseason, not a heap of muscle definition in his legs and chest - hes no Thilthorpe thats for sute. Nice to see him out there though - long way to go though in my opinion.
Hastie will be a player, he is very Nas-like in his movement, he is missing a bunch of targets by foot though which is a shame. Sort of like Nas, which is super frustrating considering just how good he is. Ronnie also very sloppy.
Stocker training strongly, Tobes is also putting his best foot forward
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I think i saw on 360 that Michito was wearing the yellow 'no contact' hat?
Well Jimmy did about a third of the session, looked fine whilst he was out there. Finished training around same time Doug took himself back to the rehab area.
Max watch, so I took a bit of extra notice of Max today.
First up, started super cautious doing a soft body contact marking drill with Heath. Kept landing on his left leg putting little to no weight on his right leg. Looked miles off it and if he really was Winx, I'd say he'd never race again.
Then moved to a different part of the drill where it was more running and kicking and looked fine jogging through it.
Next up he went off with a trainer to the treatment room.
Came back put with additional strapping on his right knee. Did some work testing out the knee, changing direction, collecting ground balls etc.
Joined main group session again in the match sim stuff. Was only jogging around though, so trailing opponents and not going into any contests. I think it was more to just get the feeling of being out there and getting used to the change of directions etc from a game situation.
After training had a super long chat to about 6 staff, including Ross.
Then they all watched as he did some more work with marking contests and putting more pressure on the knee. 'Wrestled' with Rivers in contests, looked a lot less ginger on it. Sure he had awareness, but wasn't hampered at all.
My opinion only, but I reckon he has zero confidence in his knee. The work he did in the end of training was positive and showed that his knee is holding up to a bit of pressure.
I still think he is a fair way off it. I mean, Butler has been training fully for 3 or 4 weeks now, so I'm not sure how Max can go from barely wanting to put pressure on his leg after a contest to suddenly being match ready in a week or two.
Now talking about a different Max now, but can we please sign Hall up to a new deal ASAP? Today was one of the only guys out there who consistently hit up targets... I do not want a Massimo situation with Max...
Max watch, so I took a bit of extra notice of Max today.
First up, started super cautious doing a soft body contact marking drill with Heath. Kept landing on his left leg putting little to no weight on his right leg. Looked miles off it and if he really was Winx, I'd say he'd never race again.
Then moved to a different part of the drill where it was more running and kicking and looked fine jogging through it.
Next up he went off with a trainer to the treatment room.
Came back put with additional strapping on his right knee. Did some work testing out the knee, changing direction, collecting ground balls etc.
Joined main group session again in the match sim stuff. Was only jogging around though, so trailing opponents and not going into any contests. I think it was more to just get the feeling of being out there and getting used to the change of directions etc from a game situation.
After training had a super long chat to about 6 staff, including Ross.
Then they all watched as he did some more work with marking contests and putting more pressure on the knee. 'Wrestled' with Rivers in contests, looked a lot less ginger on it. Sure he had awareness, but wasn't hampered at all.
My opinion only, but I reckon he has zero confidence in his knee. The work he did in the end of training was positive and showed that his knee is holding up to a bit of pressure.
I still think he is a fair way off it. I mean, Butler has been training fully for 3 or 4 weeks now, so I'm not sure how Max can go from barely wanting to put pressure on his leg after a contest to suddenly being match ready in a week or two.
Now talking about a different Max now, but can we please sign Hall up to a new deal ASAP? Today was one of the only guys out there who consistently hit up targets... I do not want a Massimo situation with Max...
Correct, I think Mitchito and Wilkie will be in that hat more often than not this year. The other one was Doug when he was training.
100% agree on king .dont expect him back next week based on what i saw today.
Maybe it's the other way around i.e. don't go near Michito otherwise he will hurt you!
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I agree with all of that. I think Max just has to learn to play through whatever discomfort he is feeling. There’s a lot of AFL players that are never 100% but they learn how to play through it.
When Roo hurt his knee in his first pre season they said he’d have to manage it through his career, which he did. Max is probably in the same position.
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I wonder how much of the King stuff now is mental rather than physical issues.
I think Ross said he has dinner with Collard once a week.
So Ross is obviously happy to put in extra time into Collard. Most likely as he knows that Collard has the potential to be extra special if he can just apply himself more., including more consistently.
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Ross on King
"We think he'll keep pushing for next week. He's done a power of work," said coach Ross Lyon before Friday morning's training session.
"We think he'll keep pushing for next week. He's done a power of work," said coach Ross Lyon before Friday morning's training session.
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He lived over there for 5 years, so he would have at least an understanding of the difference in culture and probably sees the value in keeping Collard happy, because you can see from his last 2 games that he is loving being out there.
I think it is not just the "cultural" aspects.
I think it also is very much the "mercurial" type player aspect where they tend to not apply themselves as much as they need to do as they are just so naturally good that they rely more on instinct.
At AFL level today you need a high workrate, and concentration rate, no matter how good your raw talent is.
I think we have all seen enough of Collard to recognise that his raw talent is massive. Add to that that his pace is excellent. So if we can just lift the mental side of his game we most likely will have a ripper of a player.
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