SAJC votes to quit Victoria Park

[PrideOf]

This arguement always riles me. The Grandstand was to fulfill the role of pits for the cars and stables for the horses. Sure it was also going to be a corporate facility, but that is where the money is. Are you against the new Grand Stands at the Adelaide Oval? They are to be built in the Members, where the great unwashed don't get to enjoy the facilities - the government is putting quite a bit dough for this venture as well. Twighlight race meetings in the city could have been a major event in this town. I've been to a few and they are good days. The new Grandstand would have facilitated this, but alas due to narrow minded old farts and naysayers caught in a time warp, it doesn't eventuate. You've got to improve, update, move with the times, spend a bit to keep up, or you start going backwards. Adelaide has been going backwards for some time now and the idiots in charge seem to think this is appropriate trend.

I've always thought the argument against the Grandstand - 'it'll only be used once a year' - was pretty thin. Surely if you can get that one usage (Clipsal) to justify the cost - and you'd go close by selling corporates the space for the Clipsal - then it's worth it.

The problem Adelaide faces is that the people in charge are basing decisions on the future on what we have now or had in the past. They aren't being creative or forward-thinking enough to think outside the square.

Base the decision on a grandstand with what we have now and you get one event who could use it.

Start to think laterally and suddenly the grandstand could cater for corporate events, concerts, horse trials - hell, even use it for a part of the Tour Down Under.

 

[KingsCrow]

Personally, I am glad that the "rannstand" didn't get approved by the ACC, not because I don't want Victoria Park redeveloped but rather because taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for it. If it was a general access grandstand, then it would be fine but why should we pay for a great big air conditioned corporate box for MPs and business leaders, when the rest of us have to put up with hot, dirty, uncomfortable, expensive seating when watching the Clipsal. Make them pay for it FFS they can afford it already!

The people on here saying that we are falling behind other states are dead right: I could rant all day about our public transport system, hospital system, roads, etc but sadly I don't think voting for Hamilton-Smith will fix the problems. Erecting more and more red light/speed cameras is the government's first and foremost priority.

Ahhh you have to think about it. When the Clipsal is on, everyone comes here. Most of the premiers from the other states were here, top business people were here, celeb's. This was the weekend when SA was the centre of attention. We have to sell our state during this weekend. So what if we have to pay a little to get the grand stand built, but it would pay itself 10 times over with the benefiets it could potentially bring.

 

[KingsCrow]

Yes true, white people have been very harshly treated right throughout the history of this country.

We are past that. Time to take off the colour goggles off.

Its racist what they are doing at the moment, where are the 'long walks' and protests? I want to live in the parklands...why aren't I allowed to live in the parklands?

 

[Ozzie]

Agree wholeheartedly

TBH they should of rebuiled Cheltnahm (sp?) really

What are you really trying to say? That is incomprehensible.

 

[KingsCrow]

Rates hike could fund Vic Park overhaul: Mayor


RAISING council rates should be considered to transform Victoria Park into one of the world's best urban parks, Lord Mayor Michael Harbison says.
Mr Harbison this week floated the idea of increasing rates over the next three years to fund a $10 million overhaul of the park.
Based on the council's 2007/8 budget, it would mean a 16 percent rate hike over three years on top of other inflationary-led rate rises.
``As a ratepayer, I would be happy to pay more to see Victoria Park as one of the great urban parks of the world,'' Mr Harbison told the City Messenger.
``It's not for me to decide it's how the council and ratepayers feel about it.
``The alternatives are to cut other expenditure ... or to borrow money, which you can't go on doing.''
The upgrade would likely include wetlands, repairing the park's grandstands, more walking and bike paths, new sports fields and better parking.
The SA Jockey Club last week decided to depart Victoria Park after 162 years of horse racing, scrapping its plan to invest $20 million in grandstand and track upgrades.
Mr Harbison believed the council would have to go it alone in improving the park, having rejected the State Government's grandstand proposal.
He said work should start ``as soon as we can'' but not at the expense of other major projects, such as Victoria Square and further upgrades to North Tce and Grote St.
``It's not palatable but (rasing rates) is the sort of thing we might consult on it depends to what degree people want these things.''



Jim daley, the **** from APPA wants business to pay for the developement of the park... even though we all know the only people who will walk all the way over to teh park will be the residents living next to it.

Rates at the moment are around $1200 for a 2 bedroom flat.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

We are past that. Time to take off the colour goggles off.

Its racist what they are doing at the moment, where are the 'long walks' and protests? I want to live in the parklands...why aren't I allowed to live in the parklands?

Didn't I ask you the same thing only yesterday young Stan, but again you ignored it.

I've already sent my email to them, what about the rest of you?

 

[KingsCrow]

Why send a letter to them?

It would be more useful sending letters to the Adelaide Council stating that you do not agree on their stances on certain subjects. ie the Le Cornu site, their backward thinking in terms of Parklands etc.


As for writting a letter, I have done it once, to the Adelaide City Council, saying how stupid it is they think a 4 storey building will ruin North Adelaide and cause 'chaos'. It was pretty much a generic email that you forwarded to the council with a little end note and your name etc. In the end its useless.

 

[Crow-mo]

Why send a letter to them?

It would be more useful sending letters to the Adelaide Council stating that you do not agree on their stances on certain subjects. ie the Le Cornu site, their backward thinking in terms of Parklands etc.


As for writting a letter, I have done it once, to the Adelaide City Council, saying how stupid it is they think a 4 storey building will ruin North Adelaide and cause 'chaos'. It was pretty much a generic email that you forwarded to the council with a little end note and your name etc. In the end its useless.

maintain the rage. no surrender!

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Why send a letter to them?

It would be more useful sending letters to the Adelaide Council stating that you do not agree on their stances on certain subjects. ie the Le Cornu site, their backward thinking in terms of Parklands etc.


As for writting a letter, I have done it once, to the Adelaide City Council, saying how stupid it is they think a 4 storey building will ruin North Adelaide and cause 'chaos'. It was pretty much a generic email that you forwarded to the council with a little end note and your name etc. In the end its useless.

Now Stan, I did highlight the fact you mentioned protests. If you are so concerned about it, get off your butt and organise a rally or three. Dont just complain by using this forum. Don't ignore the issue here.

 

[KingsCrow]

Organise a protest?

That would be lowering myself down to their level. Not willing to do that.

I'd rather just build a massive corporation, become filthy rich, run for Mayor, move the city forward and drown out all opposition with mass advertising.

Bloomberg style.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Organise a protest?

That would be lowering myself down to their level. Not willing to do that.

I'd rather just build a massive corporation, become filthy rich, run for Mayor, move the city forward and drown out all opposition with mass advertising.

Bloomberg style.

Why am I not surprised. You're all talk.

 

[KingsCrow]

Maybe I am. However when the subject conjures up enough emotion, ofcourse I'll become involved more. The stadium is something I feel strongly about, and the issue of Adelaide accepting 2nd rate facilties, oh and the lack of planning in Adelaide (is getting better though, must admit).