SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

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Seems plausible. The media may be thinking that AOD isn't enough to completely f--k the club over by itself, so now we have to play up these other angles, because we "have to see Essendon screwed at all costs or we look like fools".
 

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This.

Far too calculated. I think based upon Barrett's petulant little hypocrisy comment in the HUN, the media were pissed with Evans calling them to account. They have brought this TB4 stuff up to pretty much cancel out his call for calm and maintain status quo hysteria.

I'm hoping it was not leaked by ASADA as you suggest.

This. I reckon the media know that AOD is going to go away, so they drop the Thymosin Beta 4 angle when most people begin to accept the fact that there's no issue. This keeps the outrage flowing and the papers selling.
 

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Robbo can join his mate Fatprick over at Richmond.

From hereon in he is not wanted at Essendon and we should force him out. Every caller to his station, every tweet should have "piss off to Richmond" tagged on the end.
 

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Speaking of Smith, his backflip on this thing has been stunning. He was part of the "guilty, ban em" lynch mob at the start, but he has completely flipped since then
 

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That main topic board is getting worse and worse. I'm not sure if they're all trolls or if they actually believe the rubbish that comes out of their mouths.

I'm not saying that Essendon is in the clear at all I just think the conspiracy crap and stuff like Hird is a sociopath is beyond the pale. I'm an outty!!

I will go back when it's all done, because even if Essendon get a whack it wont be what they think. Nor will the issues be what they think.
 

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Just taking a break from flying the flag on the main board.
You can only keep it up for so long.
There are lots of people there getting exasperated because Essendon supporters won't "see the light" and condemn Hird (mainly) and Evans and anyone else they can think of, and start burning effigies and rioting at Windy Hill (a bit like a Richmond supporter might).

I would encourage those with the time and patience to go in there for brief periods (don't get too caught up in it) and give them some back. It is important, I think, that the football world (is the BF main board representative of the football world?) gets a clear message that Essendon supporters are still 100% behind the club.

And I mean through thick and thin. If worst comes to worst, it could be very thin! It will be even more important then to show Hird and the club they still have our support.
 

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That main topic board is getting worse and worse. I'm not sure if they're all trolls or if they actually believe the rubbish that comes out of their mouths.

I'm not saying that Essendon is in the clear at all I just think the conspiracy crap and stuff like Hird is a sociopath is beyond the pale. I'm an outty!!

I will go back when it's all done, because even if Essendon get a whack it wont be what they think. Nor will the issues be what they think.
The majority are piss taking for all it's worth just because they can, especially the ones who's teams have embarrassed them to the point of questioning their own footy smarts.

As for the rest, they probably like politics more than they like footy, & more than likely love arguing just so they've got some sort of human contact in their daily lives.
 

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Just taking a break from flying the flag on the main board.
You can only keep it up for so long.
There are lots of people there getting exasperated because Essendon supporters won't "see the light" and condemn Hird (mainly) and Evans and anyone else they can think of, and start burning effigies and rioting at Windy Hill (a bit like a Richmond supporter might).

I would encourage those with the time and patience to go in there for brief periods (don't get too caught up in it) and give them some back. It is important, I think, that the football world (is the BF main board representative of the football world?) gets a clear message that Essendon supporters are still 100% behind the club.

And I mean through thick and thin. If worst comes to worst, it could be very thin! It will be even more important then to show Hird and the club they still have our support.
Yep I do the same,i go in there for about ten mins read the vile dribble posts and fly the flag when I can.When im about to put my fist through my moniter I know its time to leave.
 
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Speaking of Smith, his backflip on this thing has been stunning. He was part of the "guilty, ban em" lynch mob at the start, but he has completely flipped since then
Scary, considering Smith's perception of reality leaves something to be desired.
 
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Yep I do the same,i go in there for about ten mins read the vile dribble posts and fly the flag when I can.When im about to put my fist through my moniter I know its time to leave.

It's nuts in there.

So much anger and hate. They delude themselves that they're all about the players and the game.

It's the epitome of lynch mob mentality and if it wasn't online, it'd be terrifying.
 

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Does ANYONE have a digital pass to The Australian??

Surely that's more rare than sense on the 'hot topic' board.
THE AFL has never undergone a more intense or intricate investigation in its history. Previous salary cap and draft examinations shrink in comparison.
As it probes, analyses, checks and double checks with ASADA the happenings at Essendon in 2012 it is believed the investigators have collected or compiled more than 10,000 documents.
What began in February will end in August before the competition finals. The AFL's No 2 heavy, Gillon McLachlan, made that clear this week. For the sake of the integrity of the competition the finals would be forever compromised if they were played without the Essendon drug probe concluded.
The league and ASADA firmly believe that is time enough to complete the investigation into Essendon's supplements program the club undertook last season. Both bodies will employ extra resources if necessary to hit the self-imposed deadline.

The breadth of the inquiry is evident in the amount of documentation yet the AFL and ASADA were mugged yesterday by shrill critics who claimed that no investigation could be deemed complete without evidence from Stephen Dank.
He is the man who masterminded Essendon's high performance program which, it is alleged, used performance-enhancing drugs and thus deemed banned under WADA's rules. Without interviewing the sport scientist there can be no justice, thumped commentators.
It is a naive, unthinking response. They argue with limited intellect that, under federal legislation that will become law in August, Dank can be forced to talk to ASADA though he does not have to tell them anything that he and his lawyers feel might incriminate him. Without talking to Dank no investigation is valid goes the argument. Nonsense.
It is an argument that ignores three vital facts. First, Dank has already told the ABC's 7.30 that he gave evidence -- presumably under oath -- to the Australian Crime Commission. While information passed on by Dank cannot be used against him it was the trigger for the AFL investigation. The Dank interview established the direction of ASADA's inquiries into AFL and NRL clubs.
If Dank was to be interviewed in August and said anything different to his ACC admissions then he would be dangerously compromised, especially if the ACC evidence was under oath as is most likely. It is safe to say Dank's position and involvement in these inquiries is well known by ASADA and the AFL. And Dank has said he was frank and forthright in his ACC briefings.
Dank told the ABC in February: "They obviously were quite happy with what I had discussed with them and I figured that that must've been consistent with whatever information that they'd had. And they'd indicated to me that they were happy with that information."
Second, to argue nothing can be complete without an interview with Dank in August presupposes that investigators do not already have more than enough information to have a clear picture of what went down in that undisciplined and deluded environment at Essendon in 2012.
It also ignores the example of the exhaustive USADA investigation which collected more than enough information about Lance Armstrong's drug cheating that the cyclist did not take up the offer to defend himself or explain his position.
Nobody argued that the life ban on Armstrong and ripping away of his seven Tour de France titles were unfair because he had not put forward his version of events.
This is not to in any way compare anyone involved in the Essendon inquiry to Armstrong but it does draw accurately the similarity of the mechanics of each exercise. And the methodology of USADA's work was hailed for its thoroughness and fairness. No one wailed that Armstrong's voice was not heard.

It cannot be argued here either that Dank has not had a chance to speak to ASADA. If only he had spoken to investigators as frequently as he made himself available to the media on television, radio and in print. Third, if information were to come to light after the investigation was complete and its findings promulgated that in any way added or differed to the result, it is open to the AFL and ASADA to deal with the new evidence. It would, in fact, be negligent not to follow up any new offering.

It would be reckless of ASADA and the AFL to hold on to findings that might compromise the make-up of the final eight on the chance that Dank might make himself available for interview. Irresponsible, too, to think that he would say sometime in the future that he had not confirmed with the ACC or that he would even answer (when he does not have to) any question from ASADA. It is a pity that the media analysis of the Essendon case has been as shallow as the investigation has been deep. The public has deserved better.
 

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It's nothing more than a sub forum of Bay 13. Any semblance of objectivity is long gone.


Yep, the cash rolling in from advertising revenue obviously has taken precedence over any sense of 'fair play' such a forum should promote.

EFC have much to answer for, but shame BF shame:thumbsdown:
 
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