Sam Blease

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Could there be at 18 but I doubt he would drop that far, I reckon Pies and Saints would be Keen on Blease

I'm aware that it's a long shot and I'm not expecting it to happen but he's my favourite, semi-plausible option with 18/20.

 

[Dave The Man]

I'm aware that it's a long shot and I'm not expecting it to happen but he's my favourite, semi-plausible option with 18/20.

Fair enough and There is a Chance he could Slip

 

[Lord_Travis]

I dont think he'll slip that far. If he's there at pick 17 Melbourne will take him. He is exactly the kind of player we need in our midfield now after drafting hard insiders in Mclean, Sylvia, Jones, Moloney, Grimes etc. We need some pace because now we're too slow, and we need some outside class to add to Morton because we lost Travis Johnstone and Yze, with Bruce and Green getting on now too.
Basically, at 17 we're looking for one of Hill, Blease, Swift, Robinson in that order probably.

If Blease is there at 17, he's a Demon.
Pick 19 is the interesting one as we could go another mid or go tall again, so pick 20 for you guys will be affected by that maybe?

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

He wont drop lower then 17, which is the place I think he will go.
What Melbourne need. It just depends how high he is rated by other teams.

 

[Soups]

I am with FIGJAM on Blease, just doesn't look like a type of player the pies need and I know that Dave The Man loves him

With Thomas in the side, I think they are two very similar players and you couldn't have them in the same line up. Both has pace, run and carry and pretty good footskills. But they will do that one thing in a match that will leave you scratching your head. They would also both be on the HFF unless Thomas plays mainly midfield, which I don't see happening for a while.

 

[Dave The Man]

I am with FIGJAM on Blease, just doesn't look like a type of player the pies need and I know that Dave The Man loves him

With Thomas in the side, I think they are two very similar players and you couldn't have them in the same line up. Both has pace, run and carry and pretty good footskills. But they will do that one thing in a match that will leave you scratching your head. They would also both be on the HFF unless Thomas plays mainly midfield, which I don't see happening for a while.

I only going what I have heard and Hine has said that we are looking for a Outside Mid

 

[Soups]

Haha it is ok Dave, we all have a little man crush on someone in the draft. I just put two and two together because you talk about him a fair bit but that is fair enough. Hine will do what he does best and surprise us on the day no doubt.

 

[Dave The Man]

Haha it is ok Dave, we all have a little man crush on someone in the draft. I just put two and two together because you talk about him a fair bit but that is fair enough. Hine will do what he does best and surprise us on the day no doubt.

I have a Few Favorite Players in the Draft.


Those Looks like at the Latest Mock Drafts, That Blease is Locked in to the Pies at Pick 11

 

[budge11]

I have a Few Favorite Players in the Draft.


Those Looks like at the Latest Mock Drafts, That Blease is Locked in to the Pies at Pick 11

Speaking of mate... you haven't done one in a few days, what's going on?

Mix it up a bit mate, throw McKernan in there at 4, drop Vickery to Richmond and send Hill to Carlton! Have Mitch Banner in your top 10, have Rich drop to 25!

 

[Dave The Man]

Speaking of mate... you haven't done one in a few days, what's going on?

Mix it up a bit mate, throw McKernan in there at 4, drop Vickery to Richmond and send Hill to Carlton! Have Mitch Banner in your top 10, have Rich drop to 25!

Ha HA very funny - I have a Yellow card but runs out Tommorow

 

[FIGJAM]

I only going what I have heard and Hine has said that we are looking for a Outside Mid

No Dave, he hasn't said this at all.

In fact, he hasn't said anything at all!

 

[Snoop Dog]

No Dave, he hasn't said this at all.

In fact, he hasn't said anything at all!

FJ - I have actually heard him say it. Notwithstanding it doesnt mean it will be first selection in the draft. They could have someone tucked away for later.

Remember they recruited for an inside ball winner last yr in McCarthy and having taken talls before that it isnt unreasonable to think it will be an outside mid.

As we all know - Hine is very unpredictable so its pointless debating about us being 'certain' a certain player or type will be taken.

 

[FIGJAM]

FJ - I have actually heard him say it. Notwithstanding it doesnt mean it will be first selection in the draft. They could have someone tucked away for later.

When or where??

I heard someone say that Alan Richardson said it, but he isn't Derek Hine. We got Corrie after Richardson reportedly said it...just how many more flankers do we need to load up on?

Remember they recruited for an inside ball winner last yr in McCarthy and having taken talls before that it isnt unreasonable to think it will be an outside mid.

I love J-Mac, but whether he is a Scott Burns replacement is unknown at this stage. I hope he will be.

I rate Pendlebury, Wellingham, Swan, Didak, Leon and Shaw (Barham?, Marty?, Cox?) as players who can rotate through the centre square and do good, but my concern lies in the 'first touch' field of centremanship. We've lost Burns and O'Bree is on the way out. Blease would fit in this oversupply of "inside linkers".

We literally cost ourselves a top 4 spot when a first year player played keepings off us in the west, because he could get more first touches than the rest of our team combined. I fail to see how it is not a priority!

Reliance on McCarthy and maybe Stanley (outside chance of being on our list next year), or in one of the "inside linker" players increasing their first touch ability is risky business. We need a genuine 'first touch' inside midfielder. If he can also show some tricks outside then all the better!

 

[Dave The Man]

When or where??

I heard someone say that Alan Richardson said it, but he isn't Derek Hine. We got Corrie after Richardson reportedly said it...just how many more flankers do we need to load up on?

Someone Reported it after the Loss in the SF against the Saints.

Those I read that last year Hine said we needed a Ruckman and We got Wood at the end of the year.

I am unsure if Corrie is the Outside Mid he Meant?

 

[FIGJAM]

Someone Reported it after the Loss in the SF against the Saints.

Those I read that last year Hine said we needed a Ruckman and We got Wood at the end of the year.

I am unsure if Corrie is the Outside Mid he Meant?

The person who repoorted it after the SF loss said it was Alan Richardson.

Corrie defines outside midfielder.

We need a class first touch midfiedler.

 

[Snoop Dog]

When or where??

I heard someone say that Alan Richardson said it, but he isn't Derek Hine. We got Corrie after Richardson reportedly said it...just how many more flankers do we need to load up on?


I love J-Mac, but whether he is a Scott Burns replacement is unknown at this stage. I hope he will be.

I rate Pendlebury, Wellingham, Swan, Didak, Leon and Shaw (Barham?, Marty?, Cox?) as players who can rotate through the centre square and do good, but my concern lies in the 'first touch' field of centremanship. We've lost Burns and O'Bree is on the way out. Blease would fit in this oversupply of "inside linkers".

We literally cost ourselves a top 4 spot when a first year player played keepings off us in the west, because he could get more first touches than the rest of our team combined. I fail to see how it is not a priority!

Reliance on McCarthy and maybe Stanley (outside chance of being on our list next year), or in one of the "inside linker" players increasing their first touch ability is risky business. We need a genuine 'first touch' inside midfielder. If he can also show some tricks outside then all the better!

Said it in a couple of forums. As I said he didnt give any clue whether it was the first or last priority. Re McCarthy only have to go back to press last yr where Hine said it on a number of occassions he was recruited for that purpose.

I dont disagree that its a priority but I also think we lack genuine class in our midfield group. Sure we can rotate Didak and Davis but they are fwds in the main. We need genuine mids that other teams worry about. At present we have one ..... maybe two. The number of clearances we get isnt just a reflection of the inside mids but also the rucking ability as well. I am not sure where we ranked for clearances last yr but I think we all know the regard the CFC have for OBree clearance work - its v high (not saying I agree).

Anyway all good debate and with the fullness of time we shall see.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

We literally cost ourselves a top 4 spot when a first year player played keepings off us in the west, because he could get more first touches than the rest of our team combined. I fail to see how it is not a priority!

Please.

Palmer is an excellent player, but he's not a "first touch" inside midfielder. We got whipped like we stole something in that game, but it wasn't because we didn't have the capability of stopping Palmer from getting his hands on it - We just played like hot garbage that night.

While having better and more consistent players will help us, and we certainly need clearance players, I would have pointed to Hawthorn's ability to dominate us twice in 2008 as evidence that we need to beef up our inside ability - Not the Rd 22 game against Freo.

 

[FIGJAM]

Anyway all good debate and with the fullness of time we shall see.

The time is too full. **** the exams...put us out of our misery!!

Hine may go KP defender which I think we all mostly agree on, or will take the punt on Swift (first touch and outside gun...but massive query on the knees).

 

[Dave The Man]

Please.

Palmer is an excellent player, but he's not a "first touch" inside midfielder. We got whipped like we stole something in that game, but it wasn't because we didn't have the capability of stopping Palmer from getting his hands on it - We just played like hot garbage that night.

Did they even try against Freo in RD 22?

Bet They did but it came across they where not Putting in 100%

 

[FIGJAM]

Please.

Palmer is an excellent player, but he's not a "first touch" inside midfielder. We got whipped like we stole something in that game, but it wasn't because we didn't have the capability of stopping Palmer from getting his hands on it - We just played like hot garbage that night.

While having better and more consistent players will help us, and we certainly need clearance players, I would have pointed to Hawthorn's ability to dominate us twice in 2008 as evidence that we need to beef up our inside ability - Not the Rd 22 game against Freo.

Palmer is top 25 in the comp in his first year for clearances. That doesn't necessarily signify first touch, but it doesn't hurt!

I do hear ya, but we have a pretty bare cupboard if OB doesn't want to play.

 

[jgb99]

Palmer average 3.7 1st possessions per game (46th in the league) in his first year, not bad for someone who supposedly isn't a first touch mid (FWIW Bartel averaged 4.0 1st possessions) ... according to pro-stats.com

 

[frosty1]

What I don't get is why Blease is pigeon holed as an outside runner because he's skinny and quick. In that WA game he won the ball in traffic with very clean hands a couple of times. I think he could potentially become a well rounded inside-outside mid.

 

[Dave The Man]

What I don't get is why Blease is pigeon holed as an outside runner because he's skinny and quick. In that WA game he won the ball in traffic with very clean hands a couple of times. I think he could potentially become a well rounded inside-outside mid.

Spot On - He might not be an Extractor but Can work in Traffic and Once his Engine and Strength Improves that will get better

 

[FIGJAM]

What I don't get is why Blease is pigeon holed as an outside runner because he's skinny and quick. In that WA game he won the ball in traffic with very clean hands a couple of times. I think he could potentially become a well rounded inside-outside mid.

It stems from the inside / outside paradox. It is a spectrum rather than a clear cut scenario.

At each end it appears clear cut. You have freaks like Simon Black who have the ball on a string at ruck contests, then you have a Lonie brother, who wouldn't go near another player for fear of damaging his manicure.

Most players fit somewhere in between.

It may be that a player has no fear in terms of being in the starting four midfield, but they are far from prolific in terms of getting a first possession / clearance.

I have named Pendlebury who I admire as a player and is IMO already our second or third best player. But he's not what I would call an inside mid, despite the fact I want him there in our starting four when the heat is on.

This is because I think he works well as an inside linking option. Yes, he can muster a first possie or clearance from time to time, but usually he will be second or third in line to link the ball out from someone like O'Bree whi had the first touch.

Given you are using a sample size of one game, Blease had one lucky time when Naitanui atypically tapped the ball 15 metres his way and he got smashed by three different WA players, and he had a time when he seagulled a pack and it fell his way nicely. Hardly a good example of his "inside ability".

As I said, calling him as "more of an outside player" isn't calling him Fiora. It is stating that he is more of an inside linking player, rather than an inside ball magnet.

 

[Quigley]

He fits the Geelong model of an outside player ie they have to be able to win their own ball. So yes he can go in and win the ball when he has the opportunity but mainly he is an outside or link player.