Player Watch Sam Murray - Delisted 17/9

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sideswipe

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Who’s gloating about a history of firmness on the drug issue besides me?
I’m sure I’m the only one with strong enough morals to be going on about this for years.
Genuine question - are your “strong morals” offended by the idea of testing positive to a prohibited substance in competition or the use of illicit drugs?
 

Gone Critical

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It's a pretty rough penalty to potentially lose your career (if found guilty) over a positive recreational drug test.
In this case its a PED. The illicit drug policy is not involved. If it was I would agree but this is what ASADA and WADA are there for. Sam seems to be caught with a PED and no matter the circumstances there is good reason to treat that with zero tolerance as tough as it is.
 

jmac70

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In this case its a PED. The illicit drug policy is not involved. If it was I would agree but this is what ASADA and WADA are there for. Sam seems to be caught with a PED and no matter the circumstances there is good reason to treat that with zero tolerance as tough as it is.
Wasn’t it an illicit substance?
 

Black_White

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Genuine question - are your “strong morals” offended by the idea of testing positive to a prohibited substance in competition or the use of illicit drugs?
Competition.
Not happy about overuse of drugs in the community, particularly ICE, and the negative violent repercussions on the public.
Keep it behind your own closed doors then good luck to you.
I grew up considering that superior atheletes were gods. The drug culture shattered that.
 

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Timmy from Thomastown

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Is there any difference between what he did and what JT did ? I haven’t been keeping up with it today
Yes and no

JT was took illicit drugs out of competition but it had a PED in it
Murray too an illicit drug and it was still in his system on game day

Both ASADA breaches

Illicit drugs out of competition are not an ASADA breach but just a strike from the AFL
 

sideswipe

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Competition.
Not happy about overuse of drugs in the community, particularly ICE, and the negative violent repercussions on the public.
Keep it behind your own closed doors then good luck to you.
I grew up considering that superior atheletes were gods. The drug culture shattered that.
In terms of your “morals”, do you draw a line between a mistaken use of a recreational substance close to game day versus a deliberate attempt to dope to enhance performance? This isn’t a question re the ban, just your morals.
 

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