Teams San Francisco 49ers - The Niners

[Exe Gesis]

 

[AJ_2000]

If you can't handle creative tension, then the NFL isn't for you

 

[Exe Gesis]

Report: 49ers traded up to keep Patriots from getting Mac Jones (not a typo)

Posted by Mike Florio on September 12, 2021, 8:41 AM EDT

When the 49ers traded up from No. 12 to No. 3 in March, they did it with various objectives. One did not come to fruition.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, the 49ers made the move in order to ensure they would get Alabama quarterback Mac Jones, if the 49ers ultimately decided to take him.

Per Schefter, the 49ers believed that the Patriots coveted Jones. The 49ers wanted to have the ability to consider the quarterback candidates who would be left on the board after the Jaguars selected Trevor Lawrence and the Jets picked Zach Wilson and, if the 49ers so decided, to take Jones.
Obviously, they decided not to take Jones. Even more obviously, they were right about the Patriots.

The truth may even be a little stronger than this report. The truth may be that the 49ers made the move with the plan to take Jones, but that in the extended period of time between making the trade and taking the player, the 49ers changed their minds.

It’s not the first time something like that happened for the 49ers. In 2017, the 49ers didn’t seriously consider Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson (they could have picked either) because coach Kyle Shanahan had planned to sign Kirk Cousins the following offseason in free agency. In the interim, someone persuaded Shanahan to pivot to a trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. Four years later, someone persuaded Shanahan (who despite titles runs the football operations in San Francisco) to shift from Jones to Trey Lance.

With Shanahan calling the shots, it’s surely not an easy thing to do. Whoever decided Garoppolo would be better than Cousins and that Lance would be better than Jones had to find a way to get Shanahan to come to that conclusion on his own. Most assume that G.M. John Lynch was the quarterback whisperer, um, whisperer. Others suspect that it’s assistant G.M. Adam Peters who has gotten Shanahan to step away twice from his quarterback convictions.

The second one wasn’t easy. It required Shanahan to completely abandon his quarterback philosophy. He prefers pocket passers who run the offense with precision, confident that if the quarterback does exactly what the plays require, the plays will work. Lance introduced the second-play capability to the offense, giving them a mobile player who can (when the play that’s called doesn’t work) make chicken salad on the fly, improvising his way toward a better result like Mahomes and Watson, the guys Shanahan could have had four years ago.

And so here we are, on the first Sunday of the season. The 49ers took Lance, and he’s not the starter. The Patriots, without budging from No. 15, got Jones. And Jones has looked great, great enough to allow the Patriots to dump their veteran starter. If the 49ers had Jones, they could have done the same thing — saving $24.1 million in the process.

So, assuming that Schefter’s information is accurate (and there’s no reason to think it isn’t), the 49ers gave up two future first-round picks and a third-round pick for dibs on Jones. Basically, they paid dearly for “shotgun” and then decided to get in the back seat. While they may have found themselves leapfrogged by the Patriots if the 49ers stayed at No. 12, they likely would have gotten Jones or Lance — and they would have kept their 2022 and 2023 first-round picks in the process — if they’d stayed put.

Maybe it ultimately will pan out for the Niners. For now, it’s looking like they made a big mistake.

 

[Constantgin]

Aslong as Kyle ended up with his guy it doesn't matter the cost draft pick wise. If he can turn Lance into an pro bowl worthy QB worth it all. Plus once they move off Jimmy G next season that will help our cap situation so much.

 

[AJ_2000]

Time will tell.... it makes little difference now.

Say the 9ers hadn't traded up, and the Pats went in to the draft in their slot.

If Lance was on the board at 3 others may have made moves to climb the board forcing a trade up on Jones/Fields.

You could end up getting what you want without paying anything, or you could end up with nothing.

It comes back to leveraging how much you have to gain v how much you can lose.

 

[AJ_2000]

Jeepers. Followed the game online, happy with the score ticking over and leading 41-17 with 6 mins to go. Lions went:

• TD
• 2pt conv
• Onside kick recovered
• TD
• 2pt conv
• Onside kick failed
• Fumble recovery at the Detroit 30 (1 min to go)
• Turnover on downs at the SF24

So a 41-33 win, which should have been by further - but for 54 minutes it was a belting.

Some highlights.

Trey Lance with opening TD (Kyle probably put him out there to be the first rookie to bag a TD from the draft).



Eli with the slashing run


Pick 6!


Debo to the

 

[00Stinger]

Yeah that was a bad defensive capitulation

 

[AJ_2000]

Yeah that was a bad defensive capitulation

You'd cop some of it, but giving up 2 X 2 point conversions, not recovering the onside kick and then the fumble to give them a chance at a game winning drive is almost unforgivable.

All's well that ends well, but that should give the coaching team some good fodder for the rest of the year about closing out games.

Reminds me a bit of our week one debacle against the Cards last year, where we made some poor mistakes on both sides of the ball that you'd see once a season rolled in to an entire game.

 

[00Stinger]

You'd cop some of it, but giving up 2 X 2 point conversions, not recovering the onside kick and then the fumble to give them a chance at a game winning drive is almost unforgivable.

All's well that ends well, but that should give the coaching team some good fodder for the rest of the year about closing out games.

Reminds me a bit of our week one debacle against the Cards last year, where we made some poor mistakes on both sides of the ball that you'd see once a season rolled in to an entire game.

Yeah there was comical s**t late that almost cost them the game

Just hope it is a one off because I can't see the offense putting up 40+ most weeks

 

[Brasher]

You'd cop some of it, but giving up 2 X 2 point conversions, not recovering the onside kick and then the fumble to give them a chance at a game winning drive is almost unforgivable.

All's well that ends well, but that should give the coaching team some good fodder for the rest of the year about closing out games.

Reminds me a bit of our week one debacle against the Cards last year, where we made some poor mistakes on both sides of the ball that you'd see once a season rolled in to an entire game.

49ers were already back on the team bus half way through the 4th. Think there is is much upside in this...prevents the team from getting ahead of themselves too early in the season. Samuel has a career day but ends with that critical fumble should humble him and get him back to work quickly.

Absolute bummer about Verret and Donte Johnson is not the answer on the outside either, this is the one that really worries me.

 

[Constantgin]

My biggest concern from the game wasn't the end and letting lions back into the game. It was injuries we had losing Verrett is huge with our lack of depth in secondary so is losing Mostert for a serious amount of time.

 

[Brasher]

My biggest concern from the game wasn't the end and letting lions back into the game. It was injuries we had losing Verrett is huge with our lack of depth in secondary so is losing Mostert for a serious amount of time.

Mostert is what he is...that classic exotic car you have in the garage...absolute heaven when it's running but the time and cost of keeping it on the road is obscene.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

(FantasyPros) 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk wasn't targeted in the team's Week 1 win over the Lions. Analysis: It sounds as if Aiyuk has fallen out of favor in San Francisco. Matt Maiocco reported that the second-year wideout is "still learning how to be a pro." This is a shocking development considering we heard nothing about it leading up to Week 1. Trent Sherfield stated over Aiyuk and found the end zone. Aiyuk can't be trusted in fantasy lineups entering Week 2.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

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[NSWCROW]

Good to see the injury bug hasn't followed us into this ye.......

 

[Constantgin]

Former 49ers Linebacker Parys Haralson Passes Away

Sad news. Apparently passed away in his sleep.

Former 49ers Linebacker Parys Haralson Passes Away

The San Francisco 49ers are extremely saddened to learn of the sudden passing of Parys Haralson at the age of 37.

www.49ers.com

 

[00Stinger]

(FantasyPros) 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk wasn't targeted in the team's Week 1 win over the Lions. Analysis: It sounds as if Aiyuk has fallen out of favor in San Francisco. Matt Maiocco reported that the second-year wideout is "still learning how to be a pro." This is a shocking development considering we heard nothing about it leading up to Week 1. Trent Sherfield stated over Aiyuk and found the end zone. Aiyuk can't be trusted in fantasy lineups entering Week 2.

Lucky you didn't trade Kittle for him in a fantasy league

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[A11dAtP0w3R]

Lucky you didn't trade Kittle for him in a fantasy league

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broken old TE. Overrated

 

[Constantgin]

Apparently 49ers had some disciplinary problems this off-season aiyuk sermon banks just to name a few. And Kyle thought best to nip it in the butt. Hope aiyuk isn’t in the kyles doghouse cos once that happens it’s pretty hard to come back from

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Apparently 49ers had some disciplinary problems this off-season aiyuk sermon banks just to name a few. And Kyle thought best to nip it in the butt. Hope aiyuk isn’t in the kyles doghouse cos once that happens it’s pretty hard to come back from

should trade him now if that's the case before he loses all his value.

 

[Constantgin]

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

At least the Niners are deep at rb , being the one positive

 

[Brasher]

I'm suiting up soon...my knees are good enough for one or two off tackle zone runs per season

CB1 and RB1 out for season already. Anomaly not trend heres hoping.

At least both are UFAs at the end of year and should be easier to resign if 49ers are still up for the heartache

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

49ers signed RB Kerryon Johnson to the practice squad.
The Eagles waived Johnson from injured reserve with an injury settlement at the end of August after he was unable to beat out Kenneth Gainwell or Boston Scott as depth. He's merely an insurance signing after Raheem Mostert (knee surgery) was announced out for the year. Johnson will likely stay on the practice squad unless another injury occurs to San Francisco's backfield.

 

[Brasher]

49ers signed RB Kerryon Johnson to the practice squad.
The Eagles waived Johnson from injured reserve with an injury settlement at the end of August after he was unable to beat out Kenneth Gainwell or Boston Scott as depth. He's merely an insurance signing after Raheem Mostert (knee surgery) was announced out for the year. Johnson will likely stay on the practice squad unless another injury occurs to San Francisco's backfield.

I liked him coming out of college. He is coming of IR too which instantly makes him 49er material.