SANFL FINALS 2018 -- Week 3 Wrap-Up

[raboyle]

Hi Footy fans...

This year's Grand Final is going to be historic, but not for the reasons that many SA football traditionalists would want. Depending on the way you look at it, its a final that probably shouldn't have been. Let us take a brief trip down memory lane, back to the 1975 season. It's Round 15 at the Thebarton Oval and West Torrens have beaten the Bloods by three goals, with eventual SA Football Hall of Famer Fred Bills playing his 313th and last game for the Eagles. But that victory was remembered for the fact that for a time, Bills was a 19th man on the field while a fellow Eagles player was still on field albeit being placed on a stretcher. Amid the chaos and confusion, a head count was done but did not reveal the 19th man. In later years, the reason for that was made clear, thanks to a little sneakiness by another Eagles player who jumped the fence and was covered by the crowd. The result stood and Westies would miss the finals by that single game, while the Eagles ended up finishing last that year. Since that time there has not been another such controversy in SANFL football... until now.

Welcome to the Week 3 edition of the SANFL Wrap-Up.

The Preliminary Final. The last chance saloon for a shot at premiership glory, this time around it came down to the Eagles and the Roosters. From their two encounters in the minor round this season, it was the visiting side that came out victorious on both occasions. Back in Round 5, the Roosters escaped the Oval Avenue nest with a nine-point win, but would fall to a 63-point hammering by the Eagles on their own patch in Round 14. As far as finals outings between them go, they have met in two previous Preliminary Finals with their last being an Eagles victory in the 2006 series. Of course they went on to take the flag against the Dogs the following week. The next year saw the Roosters return the favour although they couldn't arrest the Bulldog march themselves. North have made 17 appearances in this final for eight victories, with the 1931 season being the only time they've gone on to win the flag. The Eagles have played six winning outings from their 12 appearances, with 2006 and 2011 leading to premierships. In the pre-merger years, the Warriors played in just one game, losing to eventual premiers Glenelg in 1986. As for Torrens, their record has three wins from five games, their last was a loss to North. The most appearances in Preliminary Finals is Port Adelaide with 31, followed by the Redlegs on 30 games.

The Eagles started the afternoon on the right note, kicking the first two goals before the Roosters could manage a point. North's first quarter had a swag of missed opportunities, the Eagles scored 4.1 altogether to the Roosters' 1.3 to lead by 16 points at quarter-time. Things only seemed to get worse in the second quarter, the form that brought the Roosters this far seemingly nowhere to be found as the Eagles broke away to a near five-goal lead by the long break. Although inaccuracy was an issue, the Eagles added 3.3 and kept the Roosters to just 1.2 to be up by 29 points at half-time. When play resumed for the second half, the Roosters came back with a vengeance. The Eagles were still having their shooting problems and kicked 3.4 while the Roosters closed the gap down to 20 points by the three quarter-time siren with their 5.1. Now this is where things were about to descend into chaos for the following 48 hours post-game. The Roosters went on a final term romp, overtaking the Eagles on the scoreboard and withstanding their last minute counter-attacks for a five-point victory. But not too long after the final siren, the SANFL would be forced to hold an emergency meeting. For the first four minutes of that final quarter, the Roosters had an extra man on the field. From the 8.4 scored by North, 1.2 of that was scored in that short period. Against the Eagles' 4.3, had certain match protocols been followed by them, the result could have been a three-point loss for the Roosters. To that effect, with no head count called by the Eagles' captain, the result would stand.

Callum Wilkie was named best for the Roosters, with the Eagles naming Jack Hayes as their best afield.

FINAL SCORES IN WEEK 3 OF THE SANFL FINALS...

Sunday September 16
PRELIMINARY FINAL
North Adelaide 15.10 (100)
Woodville-West Torrens 14.11 (95)
7,419 @ Adelaide Oval


INJURIES
North -- Thring (calf), Spina (shoulder)

REPORTS
W-WT -- Sharrad (rough conduct)

OTHER GRADE FINALS -- REDLEGS INTO RESERVES DECIDER, EAGLES WIN U-18 TITLE
The Eagles have won the Torrens University Cup after defeating the Panthers in the U-18 Grand Final at Adelaide Oval. It is their third premiership in the U-18 division following successful campaigns in 2012 and 2013. The two sides would not be separated by much during the course of the game, with scores tied-up at 20 points each at quarter-time, then a one-goal lead to South at half-time which was reduced to one point at the final change. Unfortunately, the Panthers' goal-kicking in the final term brought them undone, the Eagles kicking 5.1 to 3.7 to take the trophy with their five-point victory. Jackson Mead, son of former Port Adelaide great Darren Mead, kicked four goals, laid seven tackles and amassed 21 disposals to take out the Alan Stewart Medal along with his premiership medal. In the Reserves Prelim at Richmond on Saturday, the Redlegs ensured a re-match against North in the decider next weekend after outlasting the Bulldogs by seven points. The Redlegs kept the Dogs to just 1.3 whilst scoring 4.4 in the opening term to lead by 19 points at quarter-time, that gap would go unchanged by the end of the second half with both sides scoring 3.3 in the second term. After stretching that to 21 points at the final change, the Dogs made a last-ditch upset attempt but would fall short in the end.

Saturday September 15 @ City Mazda Stadium, Richmond
Reserves Preliminary Final -- Norwood 11.12 (78) def. Central District 10.11 (71)

Sunday September 16 @ Adelaide Oval
U-18 Grand Final -- Woodville-West Torrens 13.11 (89) def. South Adelaide 12.12 (84)


So next weekend... the last two hours of footy in the state and a far from neighbourly situation!

Sunday September 23 @ Adelaide Oval
RESERVES GRAND FINAL
North Adelaide vs. Norwood; 11:25am

2018 SANFL MACCA'S LEAGUE GRAND FINAL
Norwood vs. North Adelaide; 3pm

So until next weekend... see you at the footy!

 

[Freofalcon]

Hi Footy fans...

This year's Grand Final is going to be historic, but not for the reasons that many SA football traditionalists would want. Depending on the way you look at it, its a final that probably shouldn't have been. Let us take a brief trip down memory lane, back to the 1975 season. It's Round 15 at the Thebarton Oval and West Torrens have beaten the Bloods by three goals, with eventual SA Football Hall of Famer Fred Bills playing his 313th and last game for the Eagles. But that victory was remembered for the fact that for a time, Bills was a 19th man on the field while a fellow Eagles player was still on field albeit being placed on a stretcher. Amid the chaos and confusion, a head count was done but did not reveal the 19th man. In later years, the reason for that was made clear, thanks to a little sneakiness by another Eagles player who jumped the fence and was covered by the crowd. The result stood and Westies would miss the finals by that single game, while the Eagles ended up finishing last that year. Since that time there has not been another such controversy in SANFL football... until now.

Welcome to the Week 3 edition of the SANFL Wrap-Up.

The Preliminary Final. The last chance saloon for a shot at premiership glory, this time around it came down to the Eagles and the Roosters. From their two encounters in the minor round this season, it was the visiting side that came out victorious on both occasions. Back in Round 5, the Roosters escaped the Oval Avenue nest with a nine-point win, but would fall to a 63-point hammering by the Eagles on their own patch in Round 14. As far as finals outings between them go, they have met in two previous Preliminary Finals with their last being an Eagles victory in the 2006 series. Of course they went on to take the flag against the Dogs the following week. The next year saw the Roosters return the favour although they couldn't arrest the Bulldog march themselves. North have made 17 appearances in this final for eight victories, with the 1931 season being the only time they've gone on to win the flag. The Eagles have played six winning outings from their 12 appearances, with 2006 and 2011 leading to premierships. In the pre-merger years, the Warriors played in just one game, losing to eventual premiers Glenelg in 1986. As for Torrens, their record has three wins from five games, their last was a loss to North. The most appearances in Preliminary Finals is Port Adelaide with 31, followed by the Redlegs on 30 games.

The Eagles started the afternoon on the right note, kicking the first two goals before the Roosters could manage a point. North's first quarter had a swag of missed opportunities, the Eagles scored 4.1 altogether to the Roosters' 1.3 to lead by 16 points at quarter-time. Things only seemed to get worse in the second quarter, the form that brought the Roosters this far seemingly nowhere to be found as the Eagles broke away to a near five-goal lead by the long break. Although inaccuracy was an issue, the Eagles added 3.3 and kept the Roosters to just 1.2 to be up by 29 points at half-time. When play resumed for the second half, the Roosters came back with a vengeance. The Eagles were still having their shooting problems and kicked 3.4 while the Roosters closed the gap down to 20 points by the three quarter-time siren with their 5.1. Now this is where things were about to descend into chaos for the following 48 hours post-game. The Roosters went on a final term romp, overtaking the Eagles on the scoreboard and withstanding their last minute counter-attacks for a five-point victory. But not too long after the final siren, the SANFL would be forced to hold an emergency meeting. For the first four minutes of that final quarter, the Roosters had an extra man on the field. From the 8.4 scored by North, 1.2 of that was scored in that short period. Against the Eagles' 4.3, had certain match protocols been followed by them, the result could have been a three-point loss for the Roosters. To that effect, with no head count called by the Eagles' captain, the result would stand.

Callum Wilkie was named best for the Roosters, with the Eagles naming Jack Hayes as their best afield.

FINAL SCORES IN WEEK 3 OF THE SANFL FINALS...

Sunday September 16
PRELIMINARY FINAL
North Adelaide 15.10 (100)
Woodville-West Torrens 14.11 (95)
7,419 @ Adelaide Oval


INJURIES
North -- Thring (calf), Spina (shoulder)

REPORTS
W-WT -- Sharrad (rough conduct)

OTHER GRADE FINALS -- REDLEGS INTO RESERVES DECIDER, EAGLES WIN U-18 TITLE
The Eagles have won the Torrens University Cup after defeating the Panthers in the U-18 Grand Final at Adelaide Oval. It is their third premiership in the U-18 division following successful campaigns in 2012 and 2013. The two sides would not be separated by much during the course of the game, with scores tied-up at 20 points each at quarter-time, then a one-goal lead to South at half-time which was reduced to one point at the final change. Unfortunately, the Panthers' goal-kicking in the final term brought them undone, the Eagles kicking 5.1 to 3.7 to take the trophy with their five-point victory. Jackson Mead, son of former Port Adelaide great Darren Mead, kicked four goals, laid seven tackles and amassed 21 disposals to take out the Alan Stewart Medal along with his premiership medal. In the Reserves Prelim at Richmond on Saturday, the Redlegs ensured a re-match against North in the decider next weekend after outlasting the Bulldogs by seven points. The Redlegs kept the Dogs to just 1.3 whilst scoring 4.4 in the opening term to lead by 19 points at quarter-time, that gap would go unchanged by the end of the second half with both sides scoring 3.3 in the second term. After stretching that to 21 points at the final change, the Dogs made a last-ditch upset attempt but would fall short in the end.

Saturday September 15 @ City Mazda Stadium, Richmond
Reserves Preliminary Final -- Norwood 11.12 (78) def. Central District 10.11 (71)

Sunday September 16 @ Adelaide Oval
U-18 Grand Final -- Woodville-West Torrens 13.11 (89) def. South Adelaide 12.12 (84)


So next weekend... the last two hours of footy in the state and a far from neighbourly situation!

Sunday September 23 @ Adelaide Oval
RESERVES GRAND FINAL
North Adelaide vs. Norwood; 11:25am

2018 SANFL MACCA'S LEAGUE GRAND FINAL
Norwood vs. North Adelaide; 3pm

So until next weekend... see you at the footy!

Why do the SANFL play their finals at Adelaide Oval?

The WAFL play them at suburban grounds and the larger crowds make for a good atmosphere

7k at Adelaide Oval would be pretty bleak.

 

[footy75]

Why do the SANFL play their finals at Adelaide Oval?

The WAFL play them at suburban grounds and the larger crowds make for a good atmosphere

7k at Adelaide Oval would be pretty bleak.

great point... they should play all finals at suburban grounds then the GF at Adelaide Oval... ur right.

not in Adelaide at the moment no idea about the form of these two sides.

Someone tell me who wins this Grand Final?

 

[CP28]

Seems most SANFL diehard's support the finals being played at Suburban grounds, but for some reason the SANFL doesn't

 

[Dirty Bird]

. For the first four minutes of that final quarter, the Roosters had an extra man on the field. From the 8.4 scored by North, 1.2 of that was scored in that short period. Against the Eagles' 4.3, had certain match protocols been followed by them, the result could have been a three-point loss for the Roosters. To that effect, with no head count called by the Eagles' captain, the result would stand.

Correction
North had 19 for 3:38
Only 0.2 was scored in that time

 

[Plugger46]

Why do the SANFL play their finals at Adelaide Oval?

The WAFL play them at suburban grounds and the larger crowds make for a good atmosphere

7k at Adelaide Oval would be pretty bleak.

SANFL is the second biggest league in terms of Average crowds
40k this year and 39k last year... believe Prospect is the biggest crowd and it can only hold 20,000

 

[raptalia]

SANFL is the second biggest league in terms of Average crowds
40k this year and 39k last year... believe Prospect is the biggest crowd and it can only hold 20,000

The 2018 SANFL GF Crowd was officially 40,355.

Norwood Oval's capacity is listed as 22,000 while Prospect is 20,000.

That crowd was probably boosted by the controversy earlier in the week.

 

[raptalia]

One observation about the SANFL GF.

The SANFL do not always get things right, and the SA Umpires do not always get it right, but the SANFL have the rules and interpretations right.

The 25 metre penalty instead of the AFL's ridiculous 50 metre penalty is so much better.
The last kick out of bounds rule seems to eliminate the deliberate out of bounds.
Umpiring that gives the player with the ball the chance to dispose of it is also better to watch than the sudden death crap we see in the AFL.

In the Eagles v Melbourne game the Umpires were centre stage at times while in yesterday's SANFL game I hardly noticed them.

 

[Freofalcon]

SANFL is the second biggest league in terms of Average crowds
40k this year and 39k last year... believe Prospect is the biggest crowd and it can only hold 20,000

I'm not talking about the Grand final.

You're not getting anywhere near 20 000 for your semi finals etc.

 

[Plugger46]

I'm not talking about the Grand final.

You're not getting anywhere near 20 000 for your semi finals etc.

Getting 7000 or 13000 to finals is very good. I don't see the VFL getting anywhere near that. Also it makes travel easier image traveling from Renmark to Noarlunga??

 

[raptalia]

I'm not talking about the Grand final.

You're not getting anywhere near 20 000 for your semi finals etc.

The Adelaide Oval is not a clean stadium it is controlled by the SMA which comprises the SANFL, the SACA and the State Government. The SANFL gets the lion's share from the gate and catering during footy season so opening part of the ground is more profitable than paying local councils etc. Given the SANFL's initial investment in the redevelopment of the Adelaide Oval they probably figure playing finals is a worthwhile means of recovering their investment. It is important to note that the entire stadium is not open during the lesser finals so the cost of running the stadium is reduced. This year's Prelim between North and Woodville West Torrens drew around 13,500 but less than half of the available capacity was used. Of course a lot depends on who is playing as some teams draw more than others.

What is really galling to most Power and Crows supporters is that unlike Perth there is no clean stadium deal and during the AFL season the same SANFL takes the lion's share of the profit from catering and only gives the two AFL clubs a pittance. We go to AO to support an AFL team, buy a beer and know our club will get a token slice of the $9.50 we pay for a pint. I may be wrong but I suspect that like Subi the new Optus Stadium is a clean stadium where the West Coast and Fremantle pay a set fee for use of the ground but take the catering profit. Under that deal West Coast have become one of the most profitable franchises in the country.

The above synopsis is by no means exhaustive it is simply and indication that there is more at play than simply crowd numbers. Of course when the SANFL is run by a former State Premier you have to suspect that there is a fair bit of politics in play.

 

[madmug]

The Adelaide Oval is not a clean stadium it is controlled by the SMA which comprises the SANFL, the SACA and the State Government. The SANFL gets the lion's share from the gate and catering during footy season so opening part of the ground is more profitable than paying local councils etc. Given the SANFL's initial investment in the redevelopment of the Adelaide Oval they probably figure playing finals is a worthwhile means of recovering their investment. It is important to note that the entire stadium is not open during the lesser finals so the cost of running the stadium is reduced. This year's Prelim between North and Woodville West Torrens drew around 13,500 but less than half of the available capacity was used. Of course a lot depends on who is playing as some teams draw more than others.

What is really galling to most Power and Crows supporters is that unlike Perth there is no clean stadium deal and during the AFL season the same SANFL takes the lion's share of the profit from catering and only gives the two AFL clubs a pittance. We go to AO to support an AFL team, buy a beer and know our club will get a token slice of the $9.50 we pay for a pint. I may be wrong but I suspect that like Subi the new Optus Stadium is a clean stadium where the West Coast and Fremantle pay a set fee for use of the ground but take the catering profit. Under that deal West Coast have become one of the most profitable franchises in the country.

The above synopsis is by no means exhaustive it is simply and indication that there is more at play than simply crowd numbers. Of course when the SANFL is run by a former State Premier you have to suspect that there is a fair bit of politics in play.

Politics is about Power & Status. Its about control over the use of resources.

So football is just another aspect of like which is hugely affected by Politics. It can't be avoided.