SANFL Round 20

[- PC -]

Do you think Perrie is carrying an injury Drummond? Or has his time just gone?

While I think it hasnt helped him being played out of position the last 3 weeks , I think time is catching him.

Whether the AFC staff felt this as well and wanted to add some versatility by playing him back, or it was the only solution, I dont know

 

[jenny61_99]

It’s a myth that he’s performing much better than he has previously. Just because he’s getting an AFL game here and there doesn’t mean he’s suddenly a superior player. He's still soft and he still goes into contests half hearted, this certainly hasn't improved. Even in the SANFL he doesn't commit himself at the contest nearly as much as he should.

It's not a bloody myth! Ive watched it with my own two eyes. He took two bloody tough contested marks last week (which people like say a Matty "almost" Robran NEVER did) - that you cannot deny. If you don't remember them, go back and look at the tape. He also laid a tough tackle. You would hardly call that "half-hearted". Apparently he was 100% efficient in the things he did when he had the ball - that also isn't half-hearted. I agree he doesn't do ENOUGH of them, but he IS doing them. Credit should be given where due.

As has been said above, there are many players in our team with flaws. Heck, everyone in the league has flaws. But even the most mediocre players on our list at least give 100% every time they step on the park. They’ll put their body on the line to win the 1%’s, that’s where Jericho is sorely lacking.

On this I will emphatically disagree. Firstly, I believe that everyone goes out there to give their best. Sometimes, however, their best is just not good enough. Secondly, I disagree that every other (even the most mediocre) player on our list is more committed to the game than Jericho. That is possibly the worst statement you've ever made and is an indication that your mindset refuses to see anything other than what you believe to be the truth. There are quite a few of our players that don't put their body on the line AT ALL, and some havent for a long time. I think you will find the same at every other AFL club.

You’ll find it’s pretty much common knowledge he’s soft. But you're never going to agree because you’re set in your ways that he’s not soft.

I am not saying he's NOT soft (and let me just say I think we have a few that won't put their bodies on the line a lot of the time), but I am saying he IS improving. You don't even have the decency to acknowledge that.

 

[BlackDouglas]

It’s all about how someone perceives Luke Jericho’s improvement this season and how honest they are with his individual assessment for the season. Some will never change because it’s easier to complain about someone’s faults than it is to praise them.

I don’t believe he is soft player or a weak player or doesn’t have the ability to take the hard hit because if he didn’t he would have been found out at training before now. Saying that I also believe that he could commit his body to the contest a hell of a lot more than he does now but this side of his game has improved.

Possibly because his efforts in the past were extremely detrimental to the teams outcome that this has given so many people (just having a quick guess, this is not the first time this discussion has appeared in Big Footy) the licence to have a go at him. This season it is glaringly obvious (to me at least) that he has increased his physically output on the contest but some just can not see that part of his game.

The first time we played Geelong at AAMI stadium this year he played a stinker but whilst he has been in the side his performances have been up to standard.

I wouldn’t worry too much about changing the perception because as soon as Ian Perrie, Brett Burton, Luke Jericho, Scott Welsh, Michael Doughty and Robert Shirley are delisted over the next few years there will be a complete bunch of new whipping boys. I am sure the one who whinge and whine about theses players are the some ones who ring up a radio station and whinge and whine about them on the radio.

 

[crow87]

If he doesnt stop running next to and hovering around a contest when the ball is there to be won he's not going to go very far, while his poor tackling and discipline really annoy me its the fact thaqt I've never seen him win a 1 on 1 ball when the hard ball get is there to be won, I'd be happy to see a stalemate when Jerichos involved in such an incident but most times his opponet ends up with the ball and the other team takes it away. Also fails to help a team-mate out too often for my liking, Im not saying this because I dont like Jericho, it because I dont like what I see.
And Burton de-listed? What are some people smoking on this board?

 

[Cap]

peope do realise that many players are not in an under players and are simply recievers ???

Camporele has made a massive career out of doing exactly what Luke Jericho does

 

[crow87]

peope do realise that many players are not in an under players and are simply recievers ???

Camporele has made a massive career out of doing exactly what Luke Jericho does

Im not exactly a big Camporeale fan either but at least Jericho doesnt spend half the game looking at the umpire. Obviously there are players who are receivers and for a receiver Jericho fits the mold well, he's athletic, moves well and can kick a long goal. However sometimes the time comes when you're just in that situation where you have to put your head over the ball, take a hit or go in hard and he just doesnt mate.

 

[fightingdreamer88]

The fact is hardness at the ball is not something that you should have to "gradually improve". You just turn up the next say and say "I'm gonna kick the **** out of everyone at all costs" and that's all there is to it. Jericho is naturally a soft-**** and it's not going to change. Delist.

 

[- PC -]

The fact is hardness at the ball is not something that you should have to "gradually improve". You just turn up the next say and say "I'm gonna kick the **** out of everyone at all costs" and that's all there is too it. Jericho is naturally a soft-**** and it's not going to change. Delist.

Why? Because he embarrasses himself or ,what I think, embarrasses you as a supporter?

 

[hey shorty]

Cmon guys this thread is about SANFL not Luke Jericho, perhaps we should get it back on track ??

 

[mickyj]

Perrie: 3/10. Kicked two first quarter goals and set up another in a good first term. However North would have been better served playing with 17 men from the second quarter onwards as Perrie game them nothing. Couldn’t take a mark, couldn’t bend down, just had no impact. Needs to spend a long time in the SANFL, or the WAFL, if you catch my drift…

McGregor: 7/10. Started slowly but got better as the game wore on. Impressed with his defensive work and he would’ve had about 5 tackles. He kicked 3 goals and looked dangerous across half forward. Not a dominating performance but he did reasonably well when the ball came his way.

Vince: 6/10. Probably finished with about 20 possessions but IMO barely had an impact on the game. He didn’t hurt North with his disposal and his delivery into the forward line was rather average. Still racked up decent numbers but not a great day.

McIntyre: 2/10. Really struggling and his year has completely gone off the rails since the injury. Found the going very tough against Passador and he didn’t have too many possessions. A day to forget.

As I was at the game I'll give you my thoughts.Firstly I agree with what you have said.
Perrie started well but in truth he is not upto SANFL standard let alone AFL .He appeared not to be able to bend after halftime .And some of his efforts would have cost North goals in the final term.And the crowd in the stands certainly told a watching Craig their thoughts on ian perrie.But craig left the ground before Perrie really fell in a hole.

Kenny mac has improved in leaps and bounds since the start of the year.

Vince an average game by his standards he hasn't looked as good since his knee op

Mcintyre looked better when he played in WWT seconds against Norwood .But on that day he was helped greatly by the likes of Hall .

And for people who watched part of the game on tv you missed North in the frist half even perrie looked like a world beater.

 

[Dandy_GO]

If he starts laying tackles etc you will still dismiss him

We won't know that until it happens.

 

[Drummond]

Maric had just the 8 possessions and didn't have a kick. Only took the 1 mark and finished with just the 7 hit-outs.

Griffin only had 5 possessions, 1 mark and 11 hit-outs.

Looks like they’re starting to tire and bringing in Meesen was the right move.

 

[Stiffy_18]

It’s a myth that he’s performing much better than he has previously. Just because he’s getting an AFL game here and there doesn’t mean he’s suddenly a superior player.

What an absolute load of rubbish! He is performing better and that is evidence by coaching staff picking him to play those games and when he is not playing for the Crows, he is an emergency. If you actually removed your rose coloured glasses that there should tell you that the coaching staff think he has improved and they also believe that he is working hard enough to get an opportunity.

There was a 4 week period last year where he had some really good SANFL form, including a 25 odd possesions, 10 marks, 6 goals game and he couldn't even raise a mention. We also had some injuries at the time and it was prompting people on this board to proclaim that Jericho was stamped with "Never to play again for the AFC" stamp.

Coaching staff beleive he has improved, they show that belief by saying it publicly and not only saying it but coming out and selecting him in the 25 regularly and yet you come on here and say its a myth he is performing better than he has in the past.

What an absolute load of bullshit, and that being too kind

 

[crowsarethebest]

Agree with Jericho still not gonig in hard. I have seen countless times this year where he could've gotten to the ball but he just kept jogging waiting for the opposition to get the ball. Not good enough. He does get the looseball though and uses it well. If it is one on one don't expect him to make 100% commitment to the ball though.

 

[Mego Red]

If you actually removed your rose coloured glasses that there should tell you that the coaching staff think he has improved and they also believe that he is working hard enough to get an opportunity.

I thin it is a different color than "rose".

 

[j_mack]

Wonaeamirri kicked 4 and got 4th best

 

[Mong]

Is McIntyre in danger of missing the boat completely and being left off our list? His performances since he's come back have been extremely poor.

I still think we'll keep him but there must be a few queries on him. What do you think?

 

[BlackDouglas]

Is McIntyre in danger of missing the boat completely and being left off our list? His performances since he's come back have been extremely poor.

I still think we'll keep him but there must be a few queries on him. What do you think?

Worse case he would be rookie listed again, best case he would be up graded.

He showed enough in the pre season games that he has a future in the AFL so I cannot see him being cut completely

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

What about Taylor Walker?

Is he dead?

 

[fightingdreamer88]

What about Taylor Walker?

Is he dead?

Walker is preparing for his AFL pwnage campaign in 2008.

 

[jo172]

What about Taylor Walker?

Is he dead?

Kicked 4 and was Second best on the weekend in the Broken Hill League.

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

Kicked 4 and was Second best on the weekend in the Broken Hill League.

Pretty sure that was 3 weeks ago's result, if your looking at this:

http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/stories/s1997890.htm

 

[jo172]

Pretty sure that was 3 weeks ago's result, if your looking at this:

http://www.abc.net.au/brokenhill/stories/s1997890.htm

Nah i was looking at the Sunday Mail on Sunday

 

[RoosterLad]

Is McIntyre in danger of missing the boat completely and being left off our list? His performances since he's come back have been extremely poor.

I still think we'll keep him but there must be a few queries on him. What do you think?

There is no chance that he will get let off, you don't go from almost making your AFL debut to delisted in the one season. He hasn't been that great since his injury I know but he was very good against the best team in the comp the other week.