SANFL rule changes to affect Magpies structure and contracted players.

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2021 rules and connditions


THE SANFL has confirmed Port Adelaide’s participation in the competition for season 2021 along with some rule changes that will impact on how it makes up its supplementary playing list.

The competition confirmed that the season will commence on the Easter weekend from Thursday 1 April, 2021 and will consist of 18 home and away matches and three bye rounds.

It will revert back to a top five series played over four weeks with Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return after being unable to participate at SANFL level due to the AFL’s COVID-19 restrictions in 2020.

The fixtures are due to be released by early February depending on the AFL fixture.

There are also significant rule changes around the salary cap, which will reduce from $10,000 to $5,000 with players to be paid a maximum match payment of $250, down from $450 in 2019.

The nominated marquee player, or leadership player, will be permitted a maximum base payment of $15,000, down from $20,000 and a match payment of $300, down from $500.


Port Adelaide General Manager – Football, Chris Davies said the club had accepted the changes. “We were able to put a position forward to the SANFL,” he said on Adelaide radio on Tuesday evening. “I don’t think the rules they’ve put together are too far away from what we asked.

“I guess the fundamental thing for us is that we want to be in a competition that we can win. Port Adelaide has a history of success at SANFL level and to us the integrity of the competition means that every team, whether it be West Adelaide, South Adelaide, Adelaide or Port Adelaide need to have the opportunity to be competitive and to win the competition in any given year.

“That’s what we continue to ask of the SANFL. If that was to ever change and we felt that we weren’t getting the opportunity to win at that level, then we’d reconsider our involvement but right now I think we’re in a position where the SANFL have made the changes as they see fit and how they play out will be interesting to see.”

Davies explained that keeping the leadership player was an important part of the new rules given AFL list sizes and the salary cap have been cut.

Among the other changes are that any player who has been on an AFL list in the last two seasons will be ineligible to be on the club’s SANFL supplementary list unless they become the leadership player.

Tyson Goldsack was to be the leadership player in 2020 but the lack of participation in the competition meant he never represented the club and only carried out his other role as a development coach with the AFL side.

Davies explained that the rule would preclude Cam Sutcliffe and Port Adelaide junior Tim Broomhead – who has left Collingwood - from being part of the supplementary list after his AFL delisting unless they replaced Goldsack as the leadership player.

The club’s leadership player will be considered in the coming weeks along with the make-up of the rest of the supplementary list.

“We were already in a situation where our list, AFL mandated, is going to be reduced by two,” Davies said. “By extension that means we are going to need two more players to play at SANFL level each week.

“Again, it’s one of the levers the SANFL can pull in regards to our competitiveness at that level. “The reality of the rules as they currently sit is that it’s hard for both Adelaide and Port Adelaide to get players who aren’t effectively off other clubs’ SANFL lists so another SANFL club or that player will have had to have spent time away from a SANFL club or be deemed not to be good enough to be on a SANFL club’s list for them to be part of ours.”

The last updated rule of significance relates to the finals eligibility of players.

AFL listed players must have played more minor round games in the SANFL than the AFL throughout the season as well as playing at least three games in the SANFL after the halfway point of the regular season to participate in finals
 

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AFL listed players must have played more minor round games in the SANFL than the AFL throughout the season as well as playing at least three games in the SANFL after the halfway point of the regular season to participate in finals
What is the change here? Changed from post July 1 or something like that, to the 'halfway point'?
 
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Think it allows for a covid affected season.
 
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2021 rules and connditions


THE SANFL has confirmed Port Adelaide’s participation in the competition for season 2021 along with some rule changes that will impact on how it makes up its supplementary playing list.

The competition confirmed that the season will commence on the Easter weekend from Thursday 1 April, 2021 and will consist of 18 home and away matches and three bye rounds.

It will revert back to a top five series played over four weeks with Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return after being unable to participate at SANFL level due to the AFL’s COVID-19 restrictions in 2020.

The fixtures are due to be released by early February depending on the AFL fixture.

There are also significant rule changes around the salary cap, which will reduce from $10,000 to $5,000 with players to be paid a maximum match payment of $250, down from $450 in 2019.

The nominated marquee player, or leadership player, will be permitted a maximum base payment of $15,000, down from $20,000 and a match payment of $300, down from $500.


Port Adelaide General Manager – Football, Chris Davies said the club had accepted the changes. “We were able to put a position forward to the SANFL,” he said on Adelaide radio on Tuesday evening. “I don’t think the rules they’ve put together are too far away from what we asked.

“I guess the fundamental thing for us is that we want to be in a competition that we can win. Port Adelaide has a history of success at SANFL level and to us the integrity of the competition means that every team, whether it be West Adelaide, South Adelaide, Adelaide or Port Adelaide need to have the opportunity to be competitive and to win the competition in any given year.

“That’s what we continue to ask of the SANFL. If that was to ever change and we felt that we weren’t getting the opportunity to win at that level, then we’d reconsider our involvement but right now I think we’re in a position where the SANFL have made the changes as they see fit and how they play out will be interesting to see.”

Davies explained that keeping the leadership player was an important part of the new rules given AFL list sizes and the salary cap have been cut.

Among the other changes are that any player who has been on an AFL list in the last two seasons will be ineligible to be on the club’s SANFL supplementary list unless they become the leadership player.

Tyson Goldsack was to be the leadership player in 2020 but the lack of participation in the competition meant he never represented the club and only carried out his other role as a development coach with the AFL side.

Davies explained that the rule would preclude Cam Sutcliffe and Port Adelaide junior Tim Broomhead – who has left Collingwood - from being part of the supplementary list after his AFL delisting unless they replaced Goldsack as the leadership player.

The club’s leadership player will be considered in the coming weeks along with the make-up of the rest of the supplementary list.

“We were already in a situation where our list, AFL mandated, is going to be reduced by two,” Davies said. “By extension that means we are going to need two more players to play at SANFL level each week.

“Again, it’s one of the levers the SANFL can pull in regards to our competitiveness at that level. “The reality of the rules as they currently sit is that it’s hard for both Adelaide and Port Adelaide to get players who aren’t effectively off other clubs’ SANFL lists so another SANFL club or that player will have had to have spent time away from a SANFL club or be deemed not to be good enough to be on a SANFL club’s list for them to be part of ours.”

The last updated rule of significance relates to the finals eligibility of players.

AFL listed players must have played more minor round games in the SANFL than the AFL throughout the season as well as playing at least three games in the SANFL after the halfway point of the regular season to participate in finals
As I've said elsewhere, the way to exploit the new rules is to entice former afl players out of retirement to be our top up players perhaps, giving them a semi-coaching role. This year, Lindsay Thomas would qualify as would Jake Neade- both have been off afl lists for two years.

They wouldn't be expected to train as much and from their view point it would be social sport. Their role would be to mentor the young players. Maybe we could give them media training or training as coaches.

I would rather a 75% fit Lindsay Thomas than a player who has been rejected by all other SANFL reserves sides.
 
Neade's been playing North reserves. Not sure why, he should be playing SANFL seniors, but maybe he's not really putting in.
Injuries + Robbie Young and Keanu Miller were picked ahead of him. Now playing in the NT.
 

SANFL will adopt the AFL’s ”Stand Rule” for players standing the mark in its competitions, with this rule change among several adjustments ratified by the South Australian Football Commission for the 2022 season.

In 2022, SANFL will also be in unison with other State Leagues in allowing its AFL clubs the discretion to play activated Medical Substitutes in the SANFL.

Previously, players who were activated Medical Substitutes in the AFL were not permitted to play in the SANFL on the same weekend. This will now be permitted, however, AFL clubs must communicate their player’s availability to the opposition club within 60 minutes after the conclusion of the AFL match.


Further to SANFL’s 2022 rule changes, the SA Football Commission has approved adjustments to SANFL’s annual AFL Licence and Regulation review with the Adelaide and Port Adelaide Football Clubs, including:

  • Any delisted AFL player who has not played AFL or State League, or been on an AFL list for the past 12 months (previously 24 months), can be supplementary listed to play SANFL for AFC or PAFC.
  • A player who has served a minimum of 10 years on either Adelaide’s or Port Adelaide’s AFL list can be included on the supplementary (SANFL) List of the AFL club where they served the 10-year period.
  • Increasing the age range of interstate players AFL Clubs can include on their supplementary (SANFL) lists from 19 to 21 years to 19 to 23 years of age.
  • Adelaide and Port Adelaide would have access to Father-Son prospects in their 18th year, for a full season to play in their SANFL team – if they haven’t already played League with their SANFL club. In this instance, the AFL club would pay the player’s SANFL club a $5000 transfer fee.
  • Removal of a transfer fee for Next Generation Academy and Father-Son players in their 18th and 19th year, who are yet to play League Football at their SANFL club, allowing them an opportunity to play and train with their AFL-aligned SANFL club over a four-week period.
 

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SANFL supporters up in arms over this. Great for us and you guys though. Means that this season we can play guys like Talia, Lynch and Mackay all in the SANFL side as they have completed 10 years service. Looks like we will have none of those three though as Dmac has moved back home. Lynch has gone so only Talia left as possible.
 
SANFL supporters up in arms over this. Great for us and you guys though. Means that this season we can play guys like Talia, Lynch and Mackay all in the SANFL side as they have completed 10 years service. Looks like we will have none of those three though as Dmac has moved back home. Lynch has gone so only Talia left as possible.
The low wages per game ($200 I think) still makes it hard for any of them to stick around.
 

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SANFL supporters up in arms over this. Great for us and you guys though. Means that this season we can play guys like Talia, Lynch and Mackay all in the SANFL side as they have completed 10 years service. Looks like we will have none of those three though as Dmac has moved back home. Lynch has gone so only Talia left as possible.

Case in point, Hamish Hartlett
 

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Case in point, Hamish Hartlett
Hartlett's heart would always have been with West Adelaide SANFL wise though so it's as expected. More a pity about Sam Gray, he would of done 10 years combined magpies and power with the magpies junior teams included I reckon.
 

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Does the SANFL still have the father-son 1 game rule?

If so then Nakia Cookatoo qualifies as his old man played Jason played 3 games in 1994. He was cut from Brisbane's list and is 26.

The next question what is the more dominate rule for Port - the father-son or the rule in post # 109 above?

  • Any delisted AFL player who has not played AFL or State League, or been on an AFL list for the past 12 months (previously 24 months), can be supplementary listed to play SANFL for AFC or PAFC.
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Does the SANFL still have the father-son 1 game rule?

If so then Nakia Cookatoo qualifies as his old man played Jason played 3 games in 1994. He was cut from Brisbane's list and is 26.

The next question what is the more dominate rule for Port - the father-son or the rule in post # 109 above?

  • Any delisted AFL player who has not played AFL or State League, or been on an AFL list for the past 12 months (previously 24 months), can be supplementary listed to play SANFL for AFC or PAFC.
Ford Fairlane

Brisbane have committed to redrafting him as a rookie, so the point is moot.

He has quite a few relatives in Adelaide now though, especially with the Cockatoo-Motlaps living here.
 
Brisbane have committed to redrafting him as a rookie, so the point is moot.

He has quite a few relatives in Adelaide now though, especially with the Cockatoo-Motlaps living here.
Ok I didn't realise they said they would redraft him.
 

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Does the SANFL still have the father-son 1 game rule?

If so then Nakia Cookatoo qualifies as his old man played Jason played 3 games in 1994. He was cut from Brisbane's list and is 26.

The next question what is the more dominate rule for Port - the father-son or the rule in post # 109 above?

  • Any delisted AFL player who has not played AFL or State League, or been on an AFL list for the past 12 months (previously 24 months), can be supplementary listed to play SANFL for AFC or PAFC.
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Still doesn't help much to get decent players on first glance. Does it allow us to recruit any kid who misses the draft and didn't play senior footy in a state league? If so, that could make a difference.
 
Still doesn't help much to get decent players on first glance. Does it allow us to recruit any kid who misses the draft and didn't play senior footy in a state league? If so, that could make a difference.
Read post #109
 

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PORT Adelaide and Adelaide have been granted more generous SANFL list concessions next season.

Three months after AFL club Port threatened to pull its reserves team out of the local league, claiming it played “under much stricter rules’’ than the eight stand-alone SANFL clubs, four list rules have been tweaked to give it and South Australia’s other AFL club, the Crows, a chance to build stronger top-up squads.

THEY INCLUDE ...

REMOVING the age clause of the marquee player: Previously restricted to signing a marquee/leadership player aged 26 or older, Port and Adelaide can now delve deeper into the market.

A spin-off could be signing an AFL draftable player they can secure for their AFL list in the contentious mid-season draft, rather than poach a player from another SANFL club, like the Crows did with Glenelg’s Brett Turner this year.

GREATER access to the SANFL rookie program: The two AFL clubs can now select one player, who must agree to the move, from a SANFL rival to participate in their rookie program (for 19-year-olds) without the chance of it being blocked by their original club.

Where a player is taken under this clause, their SANFL club will be financially compensated. Under the program, the player must be the first selected in the league team after AFL-listed players and the marquee man.

Father-son and Next Generation Academy players can opt into the program, giving Port and the Crows greater access to them and their development. North Adelaide’s Will Francou - son of former Power star Josh Francou - is understood to be one of the players on Port’s wishlist if he isn’t drafted.

IMPROVED salary cap: With the SANFL raising its salary cap from $210,000 this year to $300,000 next season, Port and Adelaide will be allowed to pay their SANFL-listed and marquee players more.

The base payment will rise from $1000 to $2000 and match payments from $250 to $350 while total base payments will double, from $5000 this year to $10,000 next season.

Marquee players will get a $5000 pay rise, up from $15,000 to $20,000, while their match payments will jump from $300 to $500.

LONGER player contracts: To rise from a maximum of one year to two to allow a player more club security.

Ratified by the South Australian Football Commission, the changes come after the annual review of the list rules and match conditions which govern the participation of SA’s two AFL clubs in the SANFL.

The stand-alone SANFL clubs will benefit from a tweak to the 10-year AFL player rule.

Previously Port and Adelaide were not required to pay a transfer fee for a player who had served a minimum of 10 years on their AFL list before being delisted and put on their SANFL supplementary list.

The player’s original SANFL club will now be financially compensated.

SANFL general manager football Matthew Duldig said this year’s rule changes “provided an opportunity for us to ensure the competitive balance between the AFL and SANFL clubs in our competition’’.

“We discuss and review the competition and rules and regulations on an annual basis, including those relating to the two AFL clubs,’’ he said.

“As a league, it’s important to continue to balance what’s best for football and the development of players in SA, ensuring we remain the best state league competition in the nation.

”We believe this year’s changes will have a positive impact across our competition for both young, aspiring SANFL players and the AFL clubs.’’
The rule changes should help appease Port and the Crows.

Port chairman David Koch and chief executive Matthew Richardson in August savaged the rules its club played under in the SANFL, saying “they mean our competitiveness is significantly impacted by the availability of AFL-listed players’’.

With a long injury list and Covid issues, Port finished eighth in the SANFL this year with a 5-13 win-loss record.

In contrast, Adelaide, which had a good injury run, finished second after the minor round with a 12-6 record before losing the preliminary final to eventual premier Norwood by 11 points.
PAFC. Forever.
 
Here is a list of 42 players in the SANFL in 2018 ie 2 full sides who have spent time at Alberton in various sides over the years and are playing for 9 other SANFL clubs. Thanks to RossFC for the raw data a couple of months ago. I still have to add the guys that left post Reunification in September 2013 and are no longer on SANFL lists like Bruggerman and Beard

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Heading into 2023 (Correct me if there are errors)

North Adelaide (8): Sam Mayes, Andrew Moore, Aaron Young, Cam Hewett, Keenan Ramsay, Mitch Harvey, Jake Patmore, Keanu Miller
Glenelg (4): Luke Reynolds, Luke Partington, Jack Kluske, Kyle Crompton
South Adelaide (3): Matt Rose, Sam Skinner, Matthew Broadbent
Norwood (2): Luke Surman, Declan Hamilton
West Adelaide (2): Sam Davidson, Kye Roberts
Crows (2): Andrew McPherson, Louis Sharrad
WWT Eagles (2): Kai Pudney, Jimmy Toumpas
Sturt (1): Marty Frederick
Centrals (1): Justin Hoskin
 

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Heading into 2023 (Correct me if there are errors)

North Adelaide (8): Sam Mayes, Andrew Moore, Aaron Young, Cam Hewett, Keenan Ramsay, Mitch Harvey, Jake Patmore, Keanu Miller
Glenelg (4): Luke Reynolds, Luke Partington, Jack Kluske, Kyle Crompton
South Adelaide (3): Matt Rose, Sam Skinner, Matthew Broadbent
Norwood (2): Luke Surman, Declan Hamilton
West Adelaide (2): Sam Davidson, Kye Roberts
Crows (2): Andrew McPherson, Louis Sharrad
WWT Eagles (2): Kai Pudney, Jimmy Toumpas
Sturt (1): Marty Frederick
Centrals (1): Justin Hoskin
Pretty sure Kluske left Glenelg at the end of 2021
 

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