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Whats a simulated beating?
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They had a mole in season 1, revealed at the end of episode 3.UK version is very good. They also allow females when the govt passed the law that females can train for SAS. They also add a mole in a few seasons. UK Celebrity is also worth the watch. Only like 5-6 eps per season.
They dropped sacks on the ground, to make noises like punches. They got the recruit to make noises like he was in pain - I'd have to re-watch, but it may have been "the mole" making the noises. Bumping into the other recruits, to make them think that a fight was happening next to them.Whats a simulated beating?
I found it by sailing the high seas.Where can we watch this Vader?
Sounds weird as...They dropped sacks on the ground, to make noises like punches. They got the recruit to make noises like he was in pain - I'd have to re-watch, but it may have been "the mole" making the noises. Bumping into the other recruits, to make them think that a fight was happening next to them.
The other recruits were all blindfolded, so it was mostly making noises to trick the other recruits into thinking that a beating was happening.
The whole episode was about them playing mental games, trying to undermine the recruits' confidence & determination. Think of it in that context.Sounds weird as...
I get it.The whole episode was about them playing mental games, trying to undermine the recruits' confidence & determination. Think of it in that context.
I found it by sailing the high seas.
Try dealing with Blackbeard, or somewhere else on the raging river.So by the moon and ocean waves per ship length ?
Try dealing with Blackbeard, or somewhere else on the raging river.
It's a euphemism, to avoid breaking the rules of BigFooty. You'll figure it out.So that’s a navigation method . ! Ok I will google.
Series 1, Episode 5 - Interrogation
This episode comes with a couple of disclaimers at the start - it depicts methods which go beyond those authorised for use by British Military personnel, and that it is conducted under strict supervision.
The Interrogation is done under the control of "The Umpire", by a special group of interrogators (not the DS). Recruits are constantly monitored by psychologists & doctors at all times.
Recruits are given a quick medical, and asked two questions by the doctor - do they recognise him (the doctor), and are they fit/healthy enough to continue?
To pass, recruits must survive 24 hours of interrogation - without losing their composure, or revealing details of their mission. They were given a cover story before the start of the Escape/Evasion phase, and time for them to flesh it out (to make sure that their stories gelled together). Interrogators are looking for people who don't stand out (grey men), and/or have the ability to adapt mentally when circumstances change (i.e. another recruit breaks, dropping them in the sh*t).
** Note that they have already been without sleep for 24+ hours, as this phase follows immediately after Escape/Evasion.
The interrogation begins with "harshing". Recruits are pushed into a corner, and screamed at by 2 interrogators, who are 2cm from their faces. Over the course of the next 24 hours they are interrogated 8-9 times. Sometimes they're questioned individually, sometimes as a group, sometimes it's friendly, sometimes it's aggressive (but never as aggressive as the initial harshing).
Between interrogations, they are hooded/blindfolded and placed in stress positions for hours on end - with loud, repetitive, music blaring at unknown intervals.
The first VW occurs after 3 hours. It's no great surprise, given that he'd struggled to recognise the doctor before the interrogation even began. He probably shouldn't have been allowed to begin the interrogation phase.
The second VW occurs after 7 hours. This one surprised me. He'd been one of the two strong performers in the Escape/Evasion phase, and seemed to be doing OK with the interrogations. He just raised his hand while in a stress position, and called it a day. Completely out of the blue.
A 3rd candidate is pulled from the course after 18 hours. This candidate was your typical Alpha male, with an ego the size of a planet, and a brain the size of a pea. He'd struggled massively with the interrogation, breaking from the cover story early, and dropping his teammates in a world of sh*t. The DS decided to pull him from the course, on the basis that his performance was so bad that he would have endangered himself and the others if he'd done that in a real enemy interrogation.
The remaining 2 candidates made it all the way to the end, without breaking. Each adopted a different strategy. One was the grey man, who basically gave nothing away. The other tried to humanise himself in the eyes of the interrogators, making it less likely that they'd torture him. Both strategies were deemed valid & effective.
Both candidates not only completed the course, but passed it as well. Of the 30 who started the course, only 2 completed - and both passed.
Observations
This series bears only a passing resemblance to the pansy parade. Unlike the pansy parade, it's an endurance test - both physically and mentally. It's not a series of one-off stunts, which look spectacular on television, but which have virtually nothing to do with military operations. The tasks in this series are much more closely related to the real SAS training, are much more physically and mentally demanding, and much longer in duration. Comparing the two is like comparing completion of a PhD, with finishing 3rd grade of primary school.
- I think this is what the Celebrities were expecting after their own Capture/Kidnap exercise. Ultimately, there was no way Ch7 was ever going to put their precious celebrities through this. This goes so far beyond anything the pansy parade has to offer, that there is simply no comparison.
I'll start Series 2 now, but I'll only give a summary at the end - rather than an episode-by-episode recap. It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes they make relative to Series 1.
Good write up's, thanks, no tear gas used over there ?Series 1, Episode 5 - Interrogation
This episode comes with a couple of disclaimers at the start - it depicts methods which go beyond those authorised for use by British Military personnel, and that it is conducted under strict supervision.
The Interrogation is done under the control of "The Umpire", by a special group of interrogators (not the DS). Recruits are constantly monitored by psychologists & doctors at all times.
Recruits are given a quick medical, and asked two questions by the doctor - do they recognise him (the doctor), and are they fit/healthy enough to continue?
To pass, recruits must survive 24 hours of interrogation - without losing their composure, or revealing details of their mission. They were given a cover story before the start of the Escape/Evasion phase, and time for them to flesh it out (to make sure that their stories gelled together). Interrogators are looking for people who don't stand out (grey men), and/or have the ability to adapt mentally when circumstances change (i.e. another recruit breaks, dropping them in the sh*t).
** Note that they have already been without sleep for 24+ hours, as this phase follows immediately after Escape/Evasion.
The interrogation begins with "harshing". Recruits are pushed into a corner, and screamed at by 2 interrogators, who are 2cm from their faces. Over the course of the next 24 hours they are interrogated 8-9 times. Sometimes they're questioned individually, sometimes as a group, sometimes it's friendly, sometimes it's aggressive (but never as aggressive as the initial harshing).
Between interrogations, they are hooded/blindfolded and placed in stress positions for hours on end - with loud, repetitive, music blaring at unknown intervals.
The first VW occurs after 3 hours. It's no great surprise, given that he'd struggled to recognise the doctor before the interrogation even began. He probably shouldn't have been allowed to begin the interrogation phase.
The second VW occurs after 7 hours. This one surprised me. He'd been one of the two strong performers in the Escape/Evasion phase, and seemed to be doing OK with the interrogations. He just raised his hand while in a stress position, and called it a day. Completely out of the blue.
A 3rd candidate is pulled from the course after 18 hours. This candidate was your typical Alpha male, with an ego the size of a planet, and a brain the size of a pea. He'd struggled massively with the interrogation, breaking from the cover story early, and dropping his teammates in a world of sh*t. The DS decided to pull him from the course, on the basis that his performance was so bad that he would have endangered himself and the others if he'd done that in a real enemy interrogation.
The remaining 2 candidates made it all the way to the end, without breaking. Each adopted a different strategy. One was the grey man, who basically gave nothing away. The other tried to humanise himself in the eyes of the interrogators, making it less likely that they'd torture him. Both strategies were deemed valid & effective.
Both candidates not only completed the course, but passed it as well. Of the 30 who started the course, only 2 completed - and both passed.
Observations
This series bears only a passing resemblance to the pansy parade. Unlike the pansy parade, it's an endurance test - both physically and mentally. It's not a series of one-off stunts, which look spectacular on television, but which have virtually nothing to do with military operations. The tasks in this series are much more closely related to the real SAS training, are much more physically and mentally demanding, and much longer in duration. Comparing the two is like comparing completion of a PhD, with finishing 3rd grade of primary school.
- I think this is what the Celebrities were expecting after their own Capture/Kidnap exercise. Ultimately, there was no way Ch7 was ever going to put their precious celebrities through this. This goes so far beyond anything the pansy parade has to offer, that there is simply no comparison.
I'll start Series 2 now, but I'll only give a summary at the end - rather than an episode-by-episode recap. It will be interesting to see what, if any, changes they make relative to Series 1.
No tear gas in the interrogations, no.Good write up's, thanks, no tear gas used over there ?