SC changes / features 2022

[Jiska]

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This year every coach will have 35 trades to use across the 23 home-and-away rounds – up from 30 last year – including all-new trade boosts that give you the option of adding a bonus trade when you need it most.

Other new features include the addition of new dual-position players mid-season (call it the Jack Ziebell

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Jack Ziebell

Age

34

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.1

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.6

5star

MG

369.5

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.6

3star

MG

125.8

2star

D

16.2

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.0

5star

rule) and the ability to edit trades after lockout.

I hate the idea of trade boosts.

Thoughts?

 

[buttox]

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I hate the idea of trade boosts.

Thoughts?

I dont like the DPP changes. I liked the fact you got what you paid for at the start of the year in SC.
Extra trades probably means more viable structures and less attrition in coach numbers.
Being able to use more trades in a few weeks is not a bad idea. We will have plenty of late covid outs this year.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

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I hate the idea of trade boosts.

Thoughts?

I don't mind it as long as there are no more extra trades through-out the year, no matter what happens. 4 trades a week during the byes is going to be great.

Don't like the positions changing.

Hopefully these things are just one-offs to deal with covid.

 

[Battlepants]

I like putting the extra trades in now. Means coaches can't, or at least shouldn't be crying for more trades when the covid hits the fan. You've already got 'em.

I don't understand this changing DPP rule though. I've never played fantasy before so can someone ELI5 this for me?

Let's say I pick Gawn. For the first 6 rounds he plays in defence 35% of the time clunking big marks and becomes R/D. I move him into my defence and replace him with Darcy as my R1. Then from round 6 onwards Gawn goes back to playing solely ruck and becomes ruck only again in round 12. What happens to my team?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

I like putting the extra trades in now. Means coaches can't, or at least shouldn't be crying for more trades when the covid hits the fan. You've already got 'em.

I don't understand this changing DPP rule though. I've never played fantasy before so can someone ELI5 this for me?

Let's say I pick Gawn. For the first 6 rounds he plays in defence 35% of the time clunking big marks and becomes R/D. I move him into my defence and replace him with Darcy as my R1. Then from round 6 onwards Gawn goes back to playing solely ruck and becomes ruck only again in round 12. What happens to my team?

Yeah I was wondering this also. Seems very gimmicky changing positions mid-season. I expect AF only did it to give them a point of difference, hard to see the point otherwise.

 

[Ingy]

I like putting the extra trades in now. Means coaches can't, or at least shouldn't be crying for more trades when the covid hits the fan. You've already got 'em.

I don't understand this changing DPP rule though. I've never played fantasy before so can someone ELI5 this for me?

Let's say I pick Gawn. For the first 6 rounds he plays in defence 35% of the time clunking big marks and becomes R/D. I move him into my defence and replace him with Darcy as my R1. Then from round 6 onwards Gawn goes back to playing solely ruck and becomes ruck only again in round 12. What happens to my team?

They can't lose a position, only gain them. So you get to keep Gawn in defence and Darcy in the ruck

 

[gutsroy]

Good that they’ve laid down and announced in advance the changes.
Lower chance of people being caught unaware / being disadvantaged because they don’t know the reverse trade trick.
Don’t love extra trades, but guess they want to set it up to minimize the chance of having to react on the fly.

 

[dUkezz]

Teams are already almost identical and with 5 extra trades and now ‘trade assists’ along with the 10000 podcasts and articles weekly telling everyone who to start with and who to trade in and out, eventually gonna get midway through the season and have 2-3 uniques in matchups

 

[enobrien]

35 maybe excessive

Boosts are great let’s see how they go - new strategy is always good to keep it fresh

Trade assist is irrelevant - will just suggest most traded out for most traded in (which you could aready see)

Trade update is nice for late screwing, can basically lock in trading a guy out who plays early without stressing over the guy you brought in playing - can just change the trade

Like the changes, keen to discuss new strategy, just hopefully in the future the trades are brought back down

 

[Hava Alle]

Let's say I pick Gawn. For the first 6 rounds he plays in defence 35% of the time clunking big marks and becomes R/D. I move him into my defence and replace him with Darcy as my R1. Then from round 6 onwards Gawn goes back to playing solely ruck and becomes ruck only again in round 12. What happens to my team?

Yeah I was wondering this also. Seems very gimmicky changing positions mid-season.

Also questioned this. Wtf is the go?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Also questioned this. Wtf is the go?

Apparently players can only gain one new position, and don't lose it once they have it. So in the above example Gawn would stay Def/Ruc for the season even if he plays full forward 100% from round 7 on. Which is stupid, but unlikely to happen I guess.

Fingers crossed this is just for one season to deal with potential covid issues.

I am quite liking this trade boost thing though, feel that could be a big advantage for those that have conserved trades. Imagine if there's carnage week one of finals and you have enough trades to use three that week vs some kent who has burnt his.

SC currently is just a race to full premo, and those that get an upgrade or two ahead of coaches who cop injuries are advantaged too much imo. This might be a way of balancing it out. We'll see.

 

[Hava Alle]

Apparently players can only gain one new position, and don't lose it once they have it. So in the above example Gawn would stay Def/Ruc for the season even if he plays full forward 100% from round 7 on. Which is stupid, but unlikely to happen I guess.

Fingers crossed this is just for one season to deal with potential covid issues.

I am quite liking this trade boost thing though, feel that could be a big advantage for those that have conserved trades. Imagine if there's carnage week one of finals and you have enough trades to use three that week vs some kent who has burnt his.

SC currently is just a race to full premo, and those that get an upgrade or two ahead of coaches who cop injuries are advantaged too much imo. This might be a way of balancing it out. We'll see.

I understand why they are doing it but I would prefer they went back to 20 trades. They never will though, not enough clicks.

 

[buttox]

I understand why they are doing it but I would prefer they went back to 20 trades. They never will though, not enough clicks.

It was a better game back then IMO.
Teams varied much more when you needed more keepers to start the year.

 

[JuddgementDay]

It was a better game back then IMO.
Teams varied much more when you needed more keepers to start the year.

In addition, it was a much easier set up for SC players. Lock in your trades on Friday PM, enjoy the games/ weekend and not have to be bothered with late out etc

 

[Obese Arachnid]

In addition, it was a much easier set up for SC players. Lock in your trades on Friday PM, enjoy the games/ weekend and not have to be bothered with late out etc

Yep & then it became even more of a nerdlinger game where you almost have to be on 24/7 over the spread of matches.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Did some research into these positional changes. There were 53 players given DPP after round 6 last year. Quite a few were SC relevant too.

That's more than I realised. Tend to agree with those talking about going super light up forward and grabbing the players that gain fwd status. For example Jelly, Fyfe, and Hodor all gained forward status which would have made the forward line much easier to fill.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Did some research into these positional changes. There were 53 players given DPP after round 6 last year. Quite a few were SC relevant too.

That's more than I realised. Tend to agree with those talking about going super light up forward and grabbing the players that gain fwd status. For example Jelly, Fyfe, and Hodor all gained forward status which would have made the forward line much easier to fill.

Feels like no more than 2 keepers required in the forward line to start. Maybe just 1.

 

[buttox]

Feels like no more than 2 keepers required in the forward line to start. Maybe just 1.

Snagging 80+ averages from our mid pricers up forward will be the key.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Snagging 80+ averages from our mid pricers up forward will be the key.

I think it makes mid-pricers up forward more attractive as it will be easier to get them to fallen premo who gains DPP than a rookie.

Also means you get rid of them quicker which reduces the main issue I have with mid-pricers which is picking the right time to jump off.

 

[gutsroy]

Also questioned this. Wtf is the go?

Can’t lose a position, can only gain one.
Also can’t gain another position if they start DPP.
Couldn’t lose a position because then there’d be no way to accommodate them in your side.

 

[gutsroy]

Apparently players can only gain one new position, and don't lose it once they have it. So in the above example Gawn would stay Def/Ruc for the season even if he plays full forward 100% from round 7 on. Which is stupid, but unlikely to happen I guess.

Fingers crossed this is just for one season to deal with potential covid issues.

I am quite liking this trade boost thing though, feel that could be a big advantage for those that have conserved trades. Imagine if there's carnage week one of finals and you have enough trades to use three that week vs some kent who has burnt his.

SC currently is just a race to full premo, and those that get an upgrade or two ahead of coaches who cop injuries are advantaged too much imo. This might be a way of balancing it out. We'll see.

Is interesting.
Was wondering if some wouldn’t maybe try to cull three rookies some weeks to be able to get the SPs earlier, some you can’t really reach with the standard paint the fence.
Means culling the odd cow a touch early, I guess.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Looks like i might still have trades left after Round 16 this year!

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Hurn kicked a goal in his first game so I fully expect him to be DEF/FWD by round 6

 

[Flandersss]

Hurn kicked a goal in his first game so I fully expect him to be DEF/FWD by round 6

 

[buttox]

For those interested this is the article from round 6 last year, when dpp's additions happened.

Fantasy DPPs revealed: Forwards galore, tasty defenders

Josh Kelly and Lachie Hunter headline players now available with FWD status

www.afl.com.au

They added heaps round 6 last year.
It is actually going to effect us more than I thought.