Schache to CHB or Full Back

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Shacf501

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Ok.... hear me out. We all know Josh Schache has some short falls as a forward at this stage. Why don't we put a preseason into him playing down back. He has a big tank, makes good decisions when he actually has the ball and he would be initiating the contact and physical side not of the game not his opponent. He's not getting a game anyway and we are crying out for another big backman. Still young enough to learn! We failed with Liam Jones and he has turned into a reasonable backman for the blues.
Thoughts?
 
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Boyd oh Boyd

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Sending a forward prospect to defence can be a good idea when they have a few good athletic traits but can't get their hands on the footy forward enough. Speed, leap, contested marking, strength, and balance are some. Schache doesn't have any of these traits really. In fact he doesn't really have any amazing athletic abilities. What he does have is a very good knowledge of when and where to lead and a good set shot/goal sense. These skills aren't going to translate into defence.
 

Dog 36

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No from me.
I have enough of seeing defenders and forwards come to the club and be tried at opposite end of grounds.

And our assistant coaches have enough trouble coaching defenders how to defend and forwards how to be forwards and they struggle with that let alone teaching them other way round.
 

Mojorisin

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No from me.
I have enough of seeing defenders and forwards come to the club and be tried at opposite end of grounds.

And our assistant coaches have enough trouble coaching defenders how to defend and forwards how to be forwards and they struggle with that let alone teaching them other way round.
New assistants might solve all the issues
 

trophies

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Ok.... hear me out. We all know Josh Schache has some short falls as a forward at this stage. Why don't we put a preseason into him playing down back. He has a big tank, makes good decisions when he actually has the ball and he would be initiating the contact and physical side not of the game not his opponent. He's not getting a game anyway and we are crying out for another big backman. Still young enough to learn! We failed with Liam Jones and he has turned into a reasonable backman for the blues.
Thoughts?
I think it's a great idea. Totally changes the dynamic for the player. At CHB you don't really have to make the play, you need to respond to what your direct opponent is doing. You can be totally negative (unless you're sure you're in the clear) and it's a different type of pressure. Goes from being the hunted to the hunter.
Forwards often have to take the ball and then turn toward goal, but the backs more often have the luxury of playing straight ahead.
A lot of excellent AFL backline players entered the system as forwards and then forged a career in the backline. There doesn't seem to be a lot to lose with Josh and it might just give him a notable career, and the Dogs a reliable asset.
I also want Timmy English on a wing/2nd ruck, but we need to find a 1st ruck before that can happen.
 

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The Slitherin' Snake

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I’d keep Schache on the list and play him forward. He leads really well and our forward line seems to function better when he is in. Yes he can lack intensity but he knows how to kick a goal.
Interestingly he’s been in the system for less time that Roarke Smith and the same as Garnder.
 

Norm De Guerre

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Not a good idea for a player who the club has publicly acknowledged has been kept out of the side for extended periods because he needs to work on the physical side of his game.

Its forward or bust for him.
 
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Southern 8

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I would rather send Bruce back where he started his career and play Schache forward with Naughton and JUH. Three big guys but all mobile, have ground games. Think a forward line like that would be dangerous.
HF. JUH, Naughton, West.
F. Wallis, Schache, Weightman.
Not sure which mediums and smalls play with them other than Wallis but a dangerous forward line imo.
 

Lex22

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Put Bruce in defence and try Schache forward. Whether our set-up will eventually allow for it remains to be seen but in a good side with a functioning forward line. he strikes me as a guy that would kick plenty of snags with Naughton as the aerialist and a few other holes filled up front.

Problem is, we’re nearly needing him to run the show when he’s picked. That’ll never work.

He’s an overgrown 3rd/4th forward.
 

LondonBulldog

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I'm another for trying Bruce at Full Back, last line of defence.
Not sure it will work yet he is very competitive so would at least make it hard for the opposition. Is he quick enough?
What I don't want is persisting with him for 3 more years up forward getting in the way of Naughten, English (hopefully 50% forward next year) and JUH.
 

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