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ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/playfair-joins-schoolmate-at-swans/2007/10/11/1191696085298.html

The Swans last night completed their trade week dealing by securing Geelong forward Henry Playfair and finalising the deal that will send premiership forward Adam Schneider and half-back Sean Dempster from Sydney to St Kilda.
The Swans will swap their third-round draft pick (No.44) for the 24-year-old Playfair, who played one game for the talent-laden Cats this season.
Geelong have been eager to offload some of the experienced players who did not make their premiership team, to alleviate salary cap pressure and make room for draftees. Swans coach Paul Roos said the 198cm Playfair would help provide support for marking forwards Barry Hall and Ryan O'Keefe.
Playfair, from Holbrook in the Riverina, attended Shore School with Swans defender Lewis Roberts-Thomson. The pair played together with the NSW/ACT Rams under-18s.
Despite initial reluctance, the popular Schneider yesterday agreed to be traded to St Kilda with Dempster for the Saints' second draft pick (No.26). Dempster was more eager to join former Swans assistant coach Ross Lyon at Moorabbin, believing he will get more game time.
"It's a difficult decision and Schneids wanted to think it over, but he's handled it well and the important thing is that, as premiership players, both of them feel like they can come back to the club at some stage," Roos said.
Roos said the Swans would not make any more deals in today's frantic final hours of trading, meaning they will retain their first national draft pick (No.11) and have traded up in the second round from No.28 (given to Adelaide for Martin Mattner) to No.26. Many observers believe this year's draft is more shallow than in recent years, with most of the best talent contained in the top 25.
 

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ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/playfair-joins-schoolmate-at-swans/2007/10/11/1191696085298.html

The Swans last night completed their trade week dealing by securing Geelong forward Henry Playfair and finalising the deal that will send premiership forward Adam Schneider and half-back Sean Dempster from Sydney to St Kilda.
The Swans will swap their third-round draft pick (No.44) for the 24-year-old Playfair, who played one game for the talent-laden Cats this season.
Geelong have been eager to offload some of the experienced players who did not make their premiership team, to alleviate salary cap pressure and make room for draftees. Swans coach Paul Roos said the 198cm Playfair would help provide support for marking forwards Barry Hall and Ryan O'Keefe.
Playfair, from Holbrook in the Riverina, attended Shore School with Swans defender Lewis Roberts-Thomson. The pair played together with the NSW/ACT Rams under-18s.
Despite initial reluctance, the popular Schneider yesterday agreed to be traded to St Kilda with Dempster for the Saints' second draft pick (No.26). Dempster was more eager to join former Swans assistant coach Ross Lyon at Moorabbin, believing he will get more game time.
"It's a difficult decision and Schneids wanted to think it over, but he's handled it well and the important thing is that, as premiership players, both of them feel like they can come back to the club at some stage," Roos said.
Roos said the Swans would not make any more deals in today's frantic final hours of trading, meaning they will retain their first national draft pick (No.11) and have traded up in the second round from No.28 (given to Adelaide for Martin Mattner) to No.26. Many observers believe this year's draft is more shallow than in recent years, with most of the best talent contained in the top 25.

No way that has to be crap. Unbelievable...
 

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Ouch. I rate Schneider...and i always thought Playfair was a hack...

What the hell...Just pick 26 for BOTH Dempster and Schneider.?
 

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This has to be one of the worst trades in the history of the Sydney Swans, sratch that, one of the worst trades in the history of the AFL.
 

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I didn't think we could get Schneider alone for pick 26. It is amazing that you threw in Dempster as well!

Thank you very much Sydney!

Effetively you have traded Schneider and Dempster for Mattner.
 

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What the hell is Roos doing? Trying to screw the club over before he leaves it in the next couple of years? You guys are in deep trouble. Good luck.
 

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Ive got $100. Maybe the Swans supporters can pull our money together and hire a hitman to take out Paul Roos. Lets make it happen people.
 

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And let no one crap on about salary cap pressure.
If you have salary cap pressure you don't bring additional players in.

You also get rid of higher priced older players by trading (or in case 'retiring' them).

It's a bloody disgrace and brings to mind Roos recent comment;
“Genuinely I think we’ve got another 12 months to have a real crack at it and then we’ll see what happens after that,” Roos said.

Well obviously we trade away two 23 year olds and wait for Barry, Crouch, O'Loughlin, Hall, Everitt etc etc to retire.

But what would Roos care. After all he's not a career coach and I'm sure his good mate Rossy will look out for him.
 
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Surely Schneider AND Dempster weren't traded for # 26 ALONE?!!!

That's madness, if true. I thought both would be in Sydney's best 22.

Saints picked up C.Johnson from Melb who's not bad either, Saints are doing WELL out of this week.
 

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Surely Schneider AND Dempster weren't traded for # 26 ALONE?!!!

That's madness, if true. I thought both would be in Sydney's best 22.

Saints picked up C.Johnson from Melb who's not bad either, Saints are doing WELL out of this week.
Schnieder is in our best 22 and Dempster would have been in a year or so.
 

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It's a bloody disgrace and brings to mind Roos recent comment;
“Genuinely I think we’ve got another 12 months to have a real crack at it and then we’ll see what happens after that,” Roos said.

Well obviously we trade away two 23 year olds and wait for Barry, Crouch, O'Loughlin, Hall, Everitt etc etc to retire.
Very good point. You have a mass of players likely to retire in the next few years, and logically you would think that would be the time your 23 year olds (Schneider, Dempster) take over the reigns and become key players.

Everitt, Kirk, Hall, O'Loughlin, Barry, Crouch, Matthews, Goodes, J.Bolton, Fosdike, Davis and C.Bolton should all be gone in 5 years time.

You will be left with O'Keefe, Kennelly, Jolly and Buchanan as the veterans. Then there is just Ablett, Richards, Vogels, LRT, Malceski, Bevan, Moore, McVeigh and Schmidt to make up the bulk of the team. I'm not trolling, but I think you're in big trouble. You really need Barlow, O'Keefe, White and Laidlaw to develop into quality players quickly and draft very, very well in the next few years if you want to avoid a few consecutive spoons.
 

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Very good point. You have a mass of players likely to retire in the next few years, and logically you would think that would be the time your 23 year olds (Schneider, Dempster) take over the reigns and become key players.

Everitt, Kirk, Hall, O'Loughlin, Barry, Crouch, Matthews, Goodes, J.Bolton, Fosdike, Davis and C.Bolton should all be gone in 5 years time.

You will be left with O'Keefe, Kennelly, Jolly and Buchanan as the veterans. Then there is just Ablett, Richards, Vogels, LRT, Malceski, Bevan, Moore, McVeigh and Schmidt to make up the bulk of the team. I'm not trolling, but I think you're in big trouble. You really need Barlow, O'Keefe, White and Laidlaw to develop into quality players quickly and draft very, very well in the next few years if you want to avoid a few consecutive spoons.
Its even worse than that as Kennelly is going back to Ireland after the 2009 season.
 

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I'm not trolling, but I think you're in big trouble. You really need Barlow, O'Keefe, White and Laidlaw to develop into quality players quickly and draft very, very well in the next few years if you want to avoid a few consecutive spoons.
I honestly don't think you'll find too many Swans supporters disagreeing with you.

And of of the players you've highlighted O'Keefe & White have yet to play a game, Laidlaw has played 1 and Barlow 4.

And as for drafting, we passed up a KPP in Mitch Brown last year, to take an outside midfielder in D. O'Keefe.

But hey I forgot.
We have Henry & Mattner to take us forward. :mad:
 

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I'm not trolling, but I think you're in big trouble. You really need Barlow, O'Keefe, White and Laidlaw to develop into quality players quickly and draft very, very well in the next few years if you want to avoid a few consecutive spoons.
We have some work to do, that's f'sure! On tuesday it was all looking rosey, now we're getting laughed at. Thanks Roos!!
 
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