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The Nazi's used all kinds of noble sentiments to justify their ethnic cleansing too, doesn't make it any more right or just.
There's ethnic cleansing, then there's ethnic cleansing. The Han population is there to advance the people. There is no land grab, as the Xinjiang provinces are part of China already.

You dick, I spent a year in Latin America doing all sorts of crap, from working with street kids in Peru and Colombia, to doing earthquake reconstruction and animal welfare in Bolivia. And I'm studying spanish so that as soon as I get the money together I can go back to Latin AMerica and hopefully get a gig as a human rights observer in the Zapatista regions of Mexico.
What was the last aid work you did overseas?
Haha, sorry. I think I remember you saying that once before, but I thought I'd have a crack. I have worked in Aboriginal communities in QLD, the NT and WA and have done 6 months work in China assisting the migrant workers in Shanghai and Beijing.

What, by colonising the enemies land and hanging everybody who tries to resist?
As mentioned above, the land is already part of China. The Uyghurs are attacking their own countrymen who are there to do them a service.
 

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There's ethnic cleansing, then there's ethnic cleansing. The Han population is there to advance the people. There is no land grab, as the Xinjiang provinces are part of China already.
It's good to see you so uncritically accept the Chinese propaganda line. I'm sure the Germans would have made similar excuses in the 1930's.
Haha, sorry. I think I remember you saying that once before, but I thought I'd have a crack. I have worked in Aboriginal communities in QLD, the NT and WA and have done 6 months work in China assisting the migrant workers in Shanghai and Beijing.
So you were well and truly indoctrinated then? That doesn't speak very highly of your critical thinking skills when it comes to this issue.

As mentioned above, the land is already part of China. The Uyghurs are attacking their own countrymen who are there to do them a service.
So what are your views on Chechnya, Uzbekistan, or even the Ukraine? I suppose the people who resisted Soviet rule over those territories were just trouble makers too?
 

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It's good to see you so uncritically accept the Chinese propaganda line. I'm sure the Germans would have made similar excuses in the 1930's.


So you were well and truly indoctrinated then? That doesn't speak very highly of your critical thinking skills when it comes to this issue.



So what are your views on Chechnya, Uzbekistan, or even the Ukraine? I suppose the people who resisted Soviet rule over those territories were just trouble makers too?
The Soviets are not true friends of the Chinese. Seeds of resistance were advantageous to the Chinese cause.
 

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Also, what are your thoughts on the 'one china forever' protests in China during the Olympic torch relay? Should the Australian government have treated them the same way China treats protests of dissent? After all you said just in the last few days that you wished Australia would treat protesters like China does, surely that same principle should apply to mass, organised protests by foreign nationals that had blatant links to a foreign embassy. Surely you think that we should have gone in with tanks, or at leat cracked some serious heads, and then hung the leaders; because after all that's how China would treat protests from foreign nationals if they were bussed in to Beijing to protest against rights that were at the core of Chinese culture.
 

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The Soviets are not true friends of the Chinese. Seeds of resistance were advantageous to the Chinese cause.
True friends? They were out and out enemies that had real territorial conflicts during the sixties. But I'm not talking about China, I'm talking about Russian trouble makers, who were part of Russia and resisted the extremes of Russian rule.
 
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Allow this "idiot" to demonstrate how useful - you mean 'epitome'.

Now I know we all hate grammar nazis on the net but the one time you should get it right is when you're using these fancy words to deride others, that is unless you wish to demonstrate irony.
Touche. I was in a hurry. But my sentiment remains.
 

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True friends? They were out and out enemies that had real territorial conflicts during the sixties. But I'm not talking about China, I'm talking about Russian trouble makers, who were part of Russia and resisted the extremes of Russian rule.
The issues of border disputes have basically been worked out between the Russians the Chinese. Back in the day there used to be a myth in Western circles that the Russians and Chinese were loosely allied due to their similar politics. This couldn't be further from the truth though. Fears are resurfacing in the Western world at the moment following joint military activities between the Russians and the Chinese, but back to your point...

The actions against the Chechens etc are not comparable to the actions of the Chinese government towards it's minority groups. The Chinese give their minority groups more than a fair go unless they threaten the stability of the nation. The Russians were opressive, and stripped minority groups of land, economic resources and basic human rights. The Russians offered very few incentives to their mniority groups to remain part of the greater empire, and arguably had less claim to the outerlying areas than China has now.
 
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