Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

[GreyCrow]

I like Payne for FM

 

[BlueBayou]

LOL true and its not impossible for Morrison to be returned but he will need a lot to go right for him between now and election day.

Actually he would have to move a long way left to have a chance, and the rwnj's wont him do that

 

[Hawk Dork]

Do you mean from all the hard-right types who are forever claiming that the only way is to be anti-lefty/anti-immigrant?

Their takeover didn't happen. The Govt is much the same as it New Postswas under Turnbull. But with less Bishop and Turnbull, and probably far less 'consensus government' stuff since that is what made Turnbull a fizzer. Ignoring the hard-right is ScoMo's only hope.

That would require him to ignore the voices in his head

 

[BlueBayou]

I like Payne for FM

She seems at least competent. The field is very small

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

I assume when they say 'generational change', they just mean Turnbull (63) & Bishop (62)?

Scullion retains Indigenous and is 62, plus their only actually indigenous minister, Ken Wyatt, is 66. Concetta Fierravanti-Wells was 58, but so is Karen Andrews, so that looks like-for-like. Payne is 6 years younger than Bishop... Maybe it's a dig at Abbott (60)?

 

[Bombermania]

Newspoll 56-44

Image how bad it would have been with Dutton.

 

[Vader]

Newspoll 56-44

Image how bad it would have been with Dutton.

That's a lot better than I expected it to be.

 

[tandino]

Newspoll count - 1

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Newspoll

Coalition primary 33 (was 37)
Labor primary 41 (was 35)

TPP Labor 56-44 (was 51-49)

Preferred PM
Shorten 39 (was 32)
Morrison 33 (Turnbull was 44)

 

[Vader]

And to think that's the Honeymoon poll... as good as it gets for ScoMo?

 

[Richard Pryor]

And to think that's the Honeymoon poll... as good as it gets for ScoMo?

Depends on how he handles Dutton/Abbott & Co.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

And to think that's the Honeymoon poll... as good as it gets for ScoMo?

What’s funniest is the previous polls clearly, clearly showed two things

- Coalition was battling, but competitive
- Turnbull was streets ahead as preferred PM, easily the Coalition’s biggest asset

Solution?

Get rid of Turnbull

 

[JackOutback]

I actually would not be massively surprised if ScoMo managed to win. Politics is more personality driven than ever, so dumping Turnbull hits a bit of a reset button for the Libs with a sizeable portion of people, and Shorten is pretty invisible when it comes to charisma by most standards.

Morrison and Shorten are both devoid of charisma, though that's no to necessarily a bad thing. We're not a presidential democracy.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Depends on how he handles Dutton/Abbott & Co.

Morrison would win a mountain of public credit if he delivered a few pointed public broadsides at Abbott. Won’t happen.

 

[Richard Pryor]

Morrison and Shirten are both devoid of charisma, though that's no to necessarily a bad thing. We're not a presidential democracy.

I don't think lacking in charisma hurts the PM that much though, as they're thrust into the spotlight by default and as long as they're not actively toxic like Abbott I think that puts them ahead of an opposition leader who isn't conventionally 'inspiring'.

We saw how the "They go low, we go high", not interrupting your opponent when they're making a mistake, approach worked for Hillary in the US, and while you're right that we aren't a presidential democracy so it shouldn't theoretically matter as much, the amount of people who have been lamenting that the candidate they 'voted for' got knifed after Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and now Turnbull would suggest that the average Australian voter doesn't really see the difference.

I think Morrison has been pretty unlikeable in government, but he'll likely carry himself differently as PM which, if he wrangles the far right faction well enough to reassure the electorate, could be enough for the public to give him a chance for a term (if that does happen I assume he'll get white-anted and knifed just like Turnbull).

 

[The Casey Cat]

You have to go and get your name crossed off. What you do after that is up to you.

Remove libs and labour, our politicians are pathetic

Unfortunately I have to vote until I can get a green card in another country but neither will get my support from now on

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[The Casey Cat]

The white anting will continue as long as Abbott, Dutton, Andrews, etc are in the Parliament. He'll last as long as the next election and then lose his head when the coalition is crushed.

There's already talk of Dutton remaining in the cabinet while Bishop will be shuffled to the back bench, it's just baffling.

Can't believe this actually happened and JB now on back bench. It's like the LNP are completely uninterested (or unable) to have anyone even moderately likeable and respectable in a prominent position.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Both Turnbull and Bishop effectively shrugging their shoulders and retiring says a fair bit about the drain that the party is headed down I think.

They’ll effectively be One Nation in 20 years time. That’ll be the legacy of Abbott.

 

[Dry Rot]

Both Turnbull and Bishop effectively shrugging their shoulders and retiring says a fair bit about the drain that the party is headed down I think.

They’ll effectively be One Nation in 20 months time. That’ll be the legacy of Abbott.

EFA.

 

[Ratts of Tobruk]

I don't think lacking in charisma hurts the PM that much though, as they're thrust into the spotlight by default and as long as they're not actively toxic like Abbott I think that puts them ahead of an opposition leader who isn't conventionally 'inspiring'.

We saw how the "They go low, we go high", not interrupting your opponent when they're making a mistake, approach worked for Hillary in the US, and while you're right that we aren't a presidential democracy so it shouldn't theoretically matter as much, the amount of people who have been lamenting that the candidate they 'voted for' got knifed after Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and now Turnbull would suggest that the average Australian voter doesn't really see the difference.

I think Morrison has been pretty unlikeable in government, but he'll likely carry himself differently as PM which, if he wrangles the far right faction well enough to reassure the electorate, could be enough for the public to give him a chance for a term (if that does happen I assume he'll get white-anted and knifed just like Turnbull).

A big difference between the US and here is we have compulsory voting. The Trussian propaganda worked to convince Republicans to vote for someone inept, and worked to keep a bunch of people who were horrified by Trump home by confusing them about Hillary. In Aus, you get fined if you don't rock up, so that tactic doesn't work.

Also, we aren't as divided as Americans, but some argue that's because compulsory voting has kept our politicians fairly close to the centre, instead of pulling it all to the right with identity politics. Fear and negativity is seen as a motivator in how many people vote, and in the US they also have to get them to vote on a Tuesday. The US system is not to be looked up to, at all.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Both Turnbull and Bishop effectively shrugging their shoulders and retiring says a fair bit about the drain that the party is headed down I think.

They’ll effectively be One Nation in 20 years time. That’ll be the legacy of Abbott.

seed was planted by Howard

 

[tigertigertiger]

You have to go and get your name crossed off. What you do after that is up to you.

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Talking dick pics

 

[Procrastinator35]

Both Turnbull and Bishop effectively shrugging their shoulders and retiring says a fair bit about the drain that the party is headed down I think.

They’ll effectively be One Nation in 20 years time. That’ll be the legacy of Abbott.

Good Riddance to bad rubbish.....Bishop backing the Israeli's slaughter of unarmed protesting Palestinians was an utter disgrace.

And Turdbull the milk-dud has overseen the rape & pillage of the ABC & tried to gloss over massive banking & finance corruption & fraud.

 

[its free real estate]

The highest profile ministers of the Turnbull government:

Turnbull: Gone
Bishop: Gone
Dutton: Bungled a coup, failed, lost the immigration portfolio, will have to fight for his seat, will probably be gone at the next election.
Morrison: Survived, but easily the lowest profile of the above, has to both build his own profile and that of three-four other ministers before the next election.

Also:

Barnaby: Gone, blew his load and his reputation.

The Liberals have put a gun in their mouth and blown their brains out. All for what? Appeasing the uneducated baby boomer cohort of Bolt, Hadley and Jones and their pathetic audience? They have destroyed themselves.