Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

[DAlembert]

So you worship fiat money. How unoriginal.
You must be a financial "advisor" or mortgage broker.
You're probably hocked to the eyeballs thinking you're rich. bwahahahahahahahahaha

The value of every single financial instrument has as its basis one of a handful of govt bonds.
You can't even take a s**t without the govt having an influence over when and where.
You will also be the first one to cry if a Robert Mugabe style leader decides to hand back the land.

You're probably one of the DHs who bemoan "red-tape" because DHs like Tony Abbott told you it was bad and who will be the first to cry when your McMansion is deemed unfit to live in because who needs structural integrity checks, that's just red-tape stopping people making money.

Ok I will answer a couple of your moronic assertions.
I work with the money of the day. Have owned crypto but sold out as its volatility picked up.
I am retired..but heh yeh a thousand years ago I worked in the Financial Markets.
I have not had a Loan or Mortgage for almost 30 years. I have run businesses and employed people.
Your next line made me chuckle...about Govt. Bonds = Do a bit more reading
Your Mugabe line shows that you are a complete tosser who knows little about anything.
I have almost no interaction with Govt's But I love Franking Credits
Red Tape I have to tell you has been around a bit longer than your friend Abbott. It is a curse to Doers..but you would not know much about that.

AS a conclusion I would say ...well there really is nothing to say you are a complete DS ya DH.

 

[DAlembert]

It has been "well-known" to right-wing dingbats who have found themselves unable to hack it in their beloved "market-place of ideas".

Go suck on a soggy biscuit cretin.

 

[DAlembert]

Self interest does that to you.

Gotta fill that cup

WTF are you even on about.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

There has always been radical lefties and probably righties in Uni's. It's sort of a passage of youth rites. Also it has been common knowledge that Uni's are full of Left wing types at the teaching levels..as they are in high schools. Good mate of mine was "communist" at school into Uni...met him 35 years later and asked him if he was still radical lefty. He said no mate I grew out of that rubbish before I turned 30. Living a real life will do that to you. But do not get me wrong we need plenty of Yin and Yang helps balance the place out a little.

I’ve lived a “real life” my whole life and every year I move further and further left as it becomes more and more apparent that capitalism is failing.

But be that as it may, as regards academia the main point is that there is no meaningful manifestation anywhere of anyone calling themselves Cultural Marxists. It is entirely a chimera of the right.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Ok I will answer a couple of your moronic assertions.
I work with the money of the day. Have owned crypto but sold out as its volatility picked up.
I am retired..but heh yeh a thousand years ago I worked in the Financial Markets.
I have not had a Loan or Mortgage for almost 30 years. I have run businesses and employed people.
Your next line made me chuckle...about Govt. Bonds = Do a bit more reading
Your Mugabe line shows that you are a complete tosser who knows little about anything.
I have almost no interaction with Govt's But I love Franking Credits
Red Tape I have to tell you has been around a bit longer than your friend Abbott. It is a curse to Doers..but you would not know much about that.

AS a conclusion I would say ...well there really is nothing to say you are a complete DS ya DH.

Go suck on a soggy biscuit cretin.

WTF are you even on about.

Someone's been on the sauce tonight.

 

[Number37]

Ok I will answer a couple of your moronic assertions.
I work with the money of the day. Have owned crypto but sold out as its volatility picked up.
I am retired..but heh yeh a thousand years ago I worked in the Financial Markets.
I have not had a Loan or Mortgage for almost 30 years. I have run businesses and employed people.
Your next line made me chuckle...about Govt. Bonds = Do a bit more reading
Your Mugabe line shows that you are a complete tosser who knows little about anything.
I have almost no interaction with Govt's But I love Franking Credits
Red Tape I have to tell you has been around a bit longer than your friend Abbott. It is a curse to Doers..but you would not know much about that.

AS a conclusion I would say ...well there really is nothing to say you are a complete DS ya DH.

Clearly you have worked/work in the Financial Markets, you have a warped idea of wealth.

 

[DAlembert]

Clearly you have worked/work in the Financial Markets, you have a warped idea of wealth.

"you have a warped idea of wealth" Can you explain this? Tell me what comes first Commerce or Govt.??

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Thank You


This government has reached Olympian levels of bulls**tting and I will never decline to remind its supporters of it, with facts and stats Anti Liberal.

I Did

Medicare BS degree is subjective. Heinous by any measure.

Tax to GDP is not the best way to measure Total tax return to Govt..it is one measure. But heh in my view taxes should be much lower

I have no regard for "Big" Government and have not voted for nearly 40 years

Problem is that Labors pathway to fairness (WTF does that mean anyway) Equality (Please Define) Progress (to where when and how)

You can't see any on Govt benches because you are biased against.

You are in all likely hood a Socialist. Plenty of that type in the Western World. You would have tolerated centalist Turnbull but the Religious Right is not your cup of tea. Not mine either.
Australians have never been better off and Hawke and Keating kick started the change in the early 80's No recession since the one we had to have in 91. We have rolled on with unprecedented growth since...The boomers have been the big winners..all Tks to Communist China or is that Capitalist China. Western Governments are handcuffed by the tight election results where no one has a mandate...election cycle to short for long term planning so on and so forth.

Do not give me the BS that either side lives on the higher moral ground because the facts do not support this contention...and if it was true Labor would have won in a landslide but we all no they DID NOT.

Not sure I understand a lot of this mate. (Always a good idea to do one final read-through before hitting Post Reply, I find.)

But to the degree I understand what you're saying-

Medicare BS degree is subjective. Heinous by any measure.

If you're referring to so-called "mediscare", privatisation of Medicare has been on the Coalition's wishlist for yonks. They hate public health.

And you might say the only official proposal they made was to "privatise the payment system". Medicare is nothing but a payment system.

Tax to GDP is not the best way to measure Total tax return to Govt..it is one measure.

Totally agree it is only one measure. I only quoted it to at least put a dent in the govt's BS claim that they are a lower taxing govt.

But heh in my view taxes should be much lower

heh in my view taxes should be higher. We are one of the lowest taxing developed nations around. Yet we expect the best infrastructure and services. How are we to pay for them?

I have no regard for "Big" Government and have not voted for nearly 40 years

Waiting for the messiah, huh? Meanwhile, the rest of us are actually participating in this great nation.

Problem is that Labors pathway to fairness (WTF does that mean anyway) Equality (Please Define)

Easy. These things CAN be measured.
https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-spirit-level-9780241954294

Get back to me when you're up to speed on the subject.

You can't see any on Govt benches because you are biased against.

So you keep saying, but you offer no evidence.

You are in all likely hood a Socialist. Plenty of that type in the Western World.

Yup. Out and proud. Our contribution to the great Western life that you enjoy is nothing to hide.

Australians have never been better off and Hawke and Keating kick started the change in the early 80's No recession since the one we had to have in 91. We have rolled on with unprecedented growth since...The boomers have been the big winners

And wages have stagnated for years now, a recession is very much on the books, and inequality is increasing alarmingly.

Some more recommended reading for you:

https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/econobabble

Do not give me the BS that either side lives on the higher moral ground because the facts do not support this contention..

Labor certainly doesn't occupy the high moral ground, I wouldn't vote for them, but there's no denying they're head and shoulders above the current government for honesty.

and if it was true Labor would have won in a landslide but we all no they DID NOT.

Ridiculous. Elections are a blunt instrument at best.

 

[DAlembert]

Not sure I understand a lot of this mate. (Always a good idea to do one final read-through before hitting Post Reply, I find.)

But to the degree I understand what you're saying-

If you're referring to so-called "mediscare", privatisation of Medicare has been on the Coalition's wishlist for yonks. They hate public health.

And you might say the only official proposal they made was to "privatise the payment system". Medicare is nothing but a payment system.

Totally agree it is only one measure. I only quoted it to at least put a dent in the govt's BS claim that they are a lower taxing govt.

heh in my view taxes should be higher. We are one of the lowest taxing developed nations around. Yet we expect the best infrastructure and services. How are we to pay for them?

Waiting for the messiah, huh? Meanwhile, the rest of us are actually participating in this great nation.

Easy. These things CAN be measured.
https://www.penguin.com.au/books/the-spirit-level-9780241954294

Get back to me when you're up to speed on the subject.
So you keep saying, but you offer no evidence.

Yup. Out and proud. Our contribution to the great Western life that you enjoy is nothing to hide.

And wages have stagnated for years now, a recession is very much on the books, and inequality is increasing alarmingly.

Some more recommended reading for you:

https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/econobabble

Labor certainly doesn't occupy the high moral ground, I wouldn't vote for them, but there's no denying they're head and shoulders above the current government for honesty.
Ridiculous. Elections are a blunt instrument at best.

I did not understand much of what you wrote either. However.
You admit to being a socialist. The book you tell me to read is written by a couple of academics with hard left leaning who of course support your belief system. The rest of what you wrote is not original thought but a repeat of ABC/MSM twaddle.
Taxes should be higher you say well good luck with that. Australians are taxed almost to death. To think we should be taxed more is beyond belief.
I am not waiting for any messiah..none of the parties represent my views so why would I waste a vote.
I have paid taxes run businesses that employed people so I have participated in this country in a productive manner.
Finally I will not reply to you again. You have your ideology and you and I are parsecs apart in what we believe in.
Socialism (in all its forms) is POISON

 

[Kram]

Robin Hood wants higher taxes, what a surprise.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Robin Hood wants higher taxes, what a surprise.

So does the Sheriff of Dalembert**, he just doesn't want to pay them.

** or whatever his craziness is calling himself this week.

 

[its free real estate]

So it sounds like most of these fires in QLD were deliberately lit...

Police should be tracking Gough’s movements imo

 

[Number37]

"you have a warped idea of wealth" Can you explain this?

Can you take your head out of your arse so that it will help your understanding of my explanation?

Tell me what comes first Commerce or Govt.??

That question was answered in 1215.
There ain't nobody or anything that supersedes the will of the people.
The will of the people = govt.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I did not understand much of what you wrote either. However.
You admit to being a socialist. The book you tell me to read is written by a couple of academics with hard left leaning who of course support your belief system. The rest of what you wrote is not original thought but a repeat of ABC/MSM twaddle.
Taxes should be higher you say well good luck with that. Australians are taxed almost to death. To think we should be taxed more is beyond belief.
I am not waiting for any messiah..none of the parties represent my views so why would I waste a vote.
I have paid taxes run businesses that employed people so I have participated in this country in a productive manner.
Finally I will not reply to you again. You have your ideology and you and I are parsecs apart in what we believe in.
Socialism (in all its forms) is POISON

Hey mate, do point me to where I could have expressed myself more clearly. I read it back to myself just then and it all looks pretty straightforward English to me, but happy to make clarifications where needed.

I don't "admit" to being a socialist. You'd think it was something to be ashamed of.

So, you dismiss a book I pointed you to, not because you've read it and found fault with their arguments, but simply because they're left-leaning.

Seriously?

If you just want to barrack, go over the the footy forums, and stop wasting everyone's time here.

Or at least stop having a go at anyone else for alleged bias.

I'm concluding your position is 'Well I'm certainly biased. So how could anyone else not be?"

"Australians are taxed almost to death". Emotional claptrap that doesn't stand up to the most cursory analysis. We are a very low taxing country despite how it might feel to you.

"Waste a vote" lol. Like your precious bodily fluids, perhaps?

"Socialism (in all its forms) is POISON"

Good to know you're one of those types happy to shout from the rooftops that you've got a closed mind. I am open to persuasion but you haven't really tried that, have you.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Robin Hood wants higher taxes, what a surprise.

By all means answer the question I posed, once you're done with your mandatory daily dose of self-image boosting.

 

[NSWCROW]

" How good is wesfarmers !! "

EXCLUSIVE: On Election Eve, PM’s Office Gave $15m To Rich Party Donor From Money Set Aside To Tackle Black Poverty - New Matilda

STORY UPDATED*, February 3, 2020: There’s blood in the water with the resignation over the weekend of Cabinet Minister Bridget McKenzie over the sports rort affair. But the Morrison Government didn’t just restrict its last-minute election spending splurge to marginal electorates. It also paid...

newmatilda.com

The day before the 2019 federal election, the Morrison Government gave more than $15 million to one of its biggest political donors, from funding set aside to alleviate grinding Aboriginal poverty.

Just three months earlier, that political donor – retail giant Wesfarmers, at one time the wealthiest corporation in the country – announced a record half-yearly profit of $4.5 billion.

*wags finger and smirks at newstart recipients* - If you HAVE a go , you'll GET a go !



It's probably Labors fault

 

[DAlembert]

Hey mate, do point me to where I could have expressed myself more clearly. I read it back to myself just then and it all looks pretty straightforward English to me, but happy to make clarifications where needed.

I don't "admit" to being a socialist. You'd think it was something to be ashamed of.

So, you dismiss a book I pointed you to, not because you've read it and found fault with their arguments, but simply because they're left-leaning.

Seriously?

If you just want to barrack, go over the the footy forums, and stop wasting everyone's time here.

Or at least stop having a go at anyone else for alleged bias.

I'm concluding your position is 'Well I'm certainly biased. So how could anyone else not be?"

"Australians are taxed almost to death". Emotional claptrap that doesn't stand up to the most cursory analysis. We are a very low taxing country despite how it might feel to you.

"Waste a vote" lol. Like your precious bodily fluids, perhaps?

"Socialism (in all its forms) is POISON" Good to know you're one of those types happy to shout from the rooftops that you've got a closed mind. I am open to persuasion but you haven't really tried that, have you.

You know you have WON when they get personal.

 

[Hawk Dork]

You know you have WON when they get personal.

Go suck on a soggy biscuit cretin.

yes ..........

 

[DAlembert]

Can you take your head out of your arse so that it will help your understanding of my explanation?



That question was answered in 1215.
There ain't nobody or anything that supersedes the will of the people.
The will of the people = govt.

You poor deluded soul. So Govts created the wealth is that what you meant?

 

[FredLeDeux]

yes ..........

Fair go mate, I don't want everyone to know I'm a cretin.

 

[DAlembert]

yes ..........

Good to see context but out of context you are right...but then again if you were in context you would be wrong.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

You know you have WON when they get personal.

Except I haven't gotten personal.

You're clearly not up to this.

 

[Kipps]

Economy go down property prices go up

 

[Number37]

You poor deluded soul. So Govts created the wealth is that what you meant?

Projection doesn't help your argument.

Your myopic definition of wealth isn't doing a great deal for your argument either.

Basic history for you...
Pre 1215 the King could do whatever they pleased, including taking your wealth.
1215 the people said 'yeah nah, we don't think so King John'.
Post 1215 property rights and their enforceability are the major contributor to dropkicks like you being able to claim to be wealthy.

 

[DAlembert]

Projection doesn't help your argument.

Your myopic definition of wealth isn't doing a great deal for your argument either.

Basic history for you...
Pre 1215 the King could do whatever they pleased, including taking your wealth.
1215 the people said 'yeah nah, we don't think so King John'.
Post 1215 property rights and their enforceability are the major contributor to dropkicks like you being able to claim to be wealthy.

Hopefully in the third year of Highschool you will learn about Economics. I have never given you a definition of Wealth I am still waiting for yours.
You are still stuck in 1215 move on to the age of Enlightenment..