Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 2

[Ghost Patrol]

Notice that the $750 stimulus didn't arrive today...

Centrelink website has crashed, it's been out all day.

 

[Crankitup]

Albanese almost sounds excited ....

We now face an enormous threat, and it’s in colour.

Seriously, W T F.

 

[chelseacarlton]

DOes anyone know if the bushfire victims have received the money that was donated to them? If not, where is that money? In whose pockets?

No, they were just promises, they will never be met.
Just like with these stimulus packages, the people that require them the least will most likely be the first and only to receive them as scummo and froddo pray that this somehow all blows over.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

This is a fascinating article from https://theintercept.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-stimulus-package-spending/

This is particularly interesting;

It’s a fascinating progressive moment because what it’s shown is that all of these issues have never been about ‘how are you going to pay for it?’ It’s never been about whether we have the capacity to do these things or if the logistics have worked out.

All of these excuses that we have been given as to why we cannot treat people humanely have suddenly gone up in smoke and what has been revealed is that all of these issues were really about a lack of political will and who you deemed worthy to be in an emergency or not.

No idea what The Intercept is or how credible they are but it is a very interesting article.

Very much the theme that the excellent Richard Denniss pursues. As he puts it, we are one of the richest nations in the world, in the history of the world. We can never afford everything, but we can afford anything.

Try his book Econobabble.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

so the business has an employee making 3k a fortnight and has to stump up the other 50% themselves to get the payment?

interesting

If the employee is already on $3k per fornight, now the business only have to pay half of it, the government is going to pay the rest.

 

[The King!]

If the employee is already on $3k per fornight, now the business only have to pay half of it, the government is going to pay the rest.

Yeah but they don’t have to do they?

 

[tandino]

Albanese almost sounds excited ....



Seriously, W T F.

What does that mean?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Yeah but they don’t have to do they?

Who doesn't have to do what?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I've just had a chat with my MIL and FIL, they're both about to hit retirement age and work casual in a caravan park, they were both going to be paid out today but their bosses have been told by their accountant not to.

Their boss is under the impression and it seems so were my in-laws that they would just keep working their normal hours and they would still get paid their normal wage and the boss would pocket the rest. I told them no, they both get the $1,500 pf, they're stoked, a nice little boost pre-retirement when they will hit the road in their van and spend the money all over the place in small towns.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Has anyone thought about the struggling and desperate who have been working for cash for $10 an hour and aren't on any books? I'm sure they'll be missing out and without thinking about it will be be dobbing their unscrupulous bosses in and then inadvertently dobbing themselves in for working for cash while still claiming Newstart / Parenting Payments / DSP and the like.

A new class of the haves and have nots.

 

[The King!]

Who doesn't have to do what?

The employer doesn’t have to top up the difference

if you clear 2000 a week they don’t have to fork over the rest beyond the 1500 if they don’t wish too

nor do they have to pay super or leave etc iirc

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The employer doesn’t have to top up the difference

if you clear 2000 a week they don’t have to fork over the rest beyond the 1500 if they don’t wish too

nor do they have to pay super or leave etc iirc

So you're saying that if someone is still working and has been getting paid $3,000 per fortnight for the last x amount of years they're now going to have to take a 50% pay cut?

Is that what you're really saying?

 

[Rob R]

So you're saying that if someone is still working and has been getting paid $3,000 per fortnight for the last x amount of years they're now going to have to take a 50% pay cut?

Is that what you're really saying?

The company can tand them down and pay them $1500 per fortnight to sit at home but still be part of the company or pay the extra to keep them at work normally

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[GreyWind]

The company can tand them down and pay them $1500 per fortnight to sit at home but still be part of the company or pay the extra to keep them at work normally

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That was my understanding as well. Providing the company qualifies of course.

But hopefully the Government can come up with the legislation in the next week so everyone has a clearer understanding of what they are entitled to.

I'm also expecting some issues between people getting JobSeeker and JobKeeper payments so no doubt there's going to be people paying back debts.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

The company can tand them down and pay them $1500 per fortnight to sit at home but still be part of the company or pay the extra to keep them at work normally

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That's correct. AFAI was aware the post I was replying to was assuming the person was still actually at work.

 

[tandino]

The company can tand them down and pay them $1500 per fortnight to sit at home but still be part of the company or pay the extra to keep them at work normally

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I don't think that's right.

It's a wage subsidy. If you're already on $1500 the employee won't get extra for turning up for work.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I don't think that's right.

It's a wage subsidy. If you're already on $1500 the employee won't get extra for turning up for work.

Correct, but the business won't be paying it, the government will be via the employer.

If you're still working and you earn less than $1,500 per fortnight then you've just got a pay rise. The government will pay all of it, provided the business has registered for the payments and they have lost at least 30% of their business since this business started.

If you're still working and you earn more than $1,500 per fortnight then the government will pay the first $1,500 and then the business has to pay whatever the rest is.

If you were stood down because of the downturn due to the virus then you will be paid $1,500 per fortnight.

If you had already been sacked / let go / made redundant after 01 March, you can negotiate with your former employer to put you back on their books again and you will be paid the $1,500.

 

[Rob R]

I don't think that's right.

It's a wage subsidy. If you're already on $1500 the employee won't get extra for turning up for work.

i was referring to the example wheee an employee currently earns more than 1500

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[tandino]

i was referring to the example wheee an employee currently earns more than 1500

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Ah, fair enough then.

 

[Kram]

Never heard it called THAT before !

Mr Cheeseburger has a segment called Better Call Paul

 

[chelseacarlton]

It has been empirically proven that people fair worse when they know that they are being prayed for.
Does Scummo want for us to do worse?

 

[Gough]

Managed three minutes of that before I started to want to smoke crack. For shit's sake, the biggest crisis since WWII and this is the moron charged with seeing us through it.

 

[QuietB]

It has been empirically proven that people fair worse when they know that they are being prayed for.
Does Scummo want for us to do worse?

He is no Jules Winnfield

 

[Heisenberg_]

It has been empirically proven that people fair worse when they know that they are being prayed for.
Does Scummo want for us to do worse?

Well we’re doomed, I could’ve watch it all, but what I saw was like a Kenneth Copeland sermon.

 

[Cooldude]

It has been empirically proven that people fair worse when they know that they are being prayed for.
Does Scummo want for us to do worse?

Gotta pander to that base even during times like these

We think he is crazy but his base thinks he's godly