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Once you have enough of the most people vaccinated, that is exactly what you can do.
You think?
Not acceptable.
Give the hyperbole a rest.
That is completely irrational. There is always a tolerable level of risk with infectious diseases. The only difference between covid and other infectious diseases is that people never think about the risk of other diseases.
No it's not. There is no difference between a person that is less susceptible to transmission because of a vaccine or because of previous infection.
Are you happy to be one of those deaths?
No they haven't. Experts estimate they're not far away from it, but it hasn't been achieved yet. The threshold for herd immunity is estimated at 65-70%.
Did he name any sources as that sounds incredibly stupid even by Scomos low standards?
The threshold for herd immunity is estimated at 65-70%.
Covid: 'Israel may be reaching herd immunity'
A leading doctor describes it as the "only explanation" for cases falling as restrictions are eased.www.bbc.co.uk
What is the alternative, once the whole Australian population is vaccinated and borders reopen without quarantine?
Qld? 2 or more curfews. Tick.
www.news.com.au
he wasnt advocating for it, but warning opening too soon would let it happen:
PM warns of ‘1000 COVID cases a week’
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has outlined a new vaccine passport approach to reopening international borders.
“The first goal I think is to enable Australians who are vaccinated to be able to move and travel, particularly for important purposes,” the PM said in Perth.
“And secondly, for Australian residents and citizens from overseas who have been properly vaccinated, they will be able to come back in that way.
“If this works without major outbreaks, Australia could slowly consider a return to international travel.
“That would enable Australians to travel first for business and those sorts of things but ultimately if that worked well over a period of time and the data was showing that home-based quarantine was not creating any additional, scaled risks, that could lead to something more significant. That is how we move to the next step.
“That would require being vaccinated and I think that would be an important incentive to do that.”
“If we were to lift the borders and people come, then you would see those cases increase and Australians would have to become used to dealing with 1000 cases a week or more,’’ Mr Morrison said.
“Now, it is true that our most vulnerable populations would be vaccinated, but I don’t think Australians, particularly Western Australians, would welcome restrictions and closures and border shutting and all of those things, again, out of states concerned about the rising numbers of case numbers.
“So there needs to be, everyone needs to get on the same page with that. And so they’re the important threshold issues we’ve got to work together through as a National Cabinet. And that’s why I’m calling them back together again to work on that same operational tempo that we were during the pandemic, because these are the challenges we need to solve together now.”
Asked if the border restrictions needed to stay in place until “everybody in the world who can be vaccinated is vaccinated” the Prime Minister said it was “a moving situation.”
“We can’t control what’s happening in the rest of the world. We just have to understand what’s happening there,’’
“There are high risk countries, there are lower risk countries. We’re already open to New Zealand. I think I can see a future where we could be in a similar arrangement with Singapore and we’re working on that now. Other Pacific countries, that’s possible. But when you’re talking about countries, you know, for example, like Indonesia or India or Papua New Guinea or countries where we know that the virus is in a very strong form, including in Europe and even still the United Kingdom, the United States.
“You know, Australians, I don’t think would welcome the incursion of the virus into the country. So we have to weigh all of that up.”
What I think may be skewing this, is the earlier statement from Wednesday:
“And if we want to treat COVID like the flu, then we have to have the same tolerance for COVID as we have for the flu,’’ he said.
“And people get the flu and there would be cases of COVID if the international borders were lifted, there would be cases and we’d have to be confident and comfortable that that would be in Australia’s interest to have, in potentially large numbers of cases of COVID, knowing that it would not lead to the horrific outcomes that we saw, in particular in Victoria, when the second wave ripped through particularly Melbourne.”
