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#3
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Like a bloody yo-yo. Very good one week, crap the next.

He has been alright.
Stiffy's right - he is very inconsistent.

I watched him on telly today playing for Port Magpies, and he definitely played his best footy in defence.

He hasn't played there for the Crows yet, but if McGregor goes back to his rightful spot in defence, there isn't a spot back there for him.

He's very erratic up forward, and a diabolical setshot for goal.

Handy, but no star.
 

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I think Scott Stevens' biggest flaw is his consistency, especially in quarters.

One quarter he's kicking 3 goals, the next he's getting donuts.

It's a shame because Scott has a lot of potential. He can be a very good mark, a so -so kick, and a reliable defender. It's mainly his current consistency that's the problem.

It can be fixed, and that's why he's in the SANFL. The reason why?

To find some consistency.
 

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#6
Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
lets hope he is not the next Daniel Schell...............

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Daniel Shell looks good compared to Scott Stevens. Stevens had a few lucky games early in the season but isnt gonna cut it at AFL.
 
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#8
Originally posted by crows98
Daniel Shell looks good compared to Scott Stevens. Stevens had a few lucky games early in the season but isnt gonna cut it at AFL.
Disagree, completely different typre of player.
Schell had an inferiority complex, didn't believe in his own abilities enough, and stood back too much.
S. Stevens has an excellent footy brain, is young, not as good hands as Schell, but will be a better player than Schell, because of his better self belief as a footballer.
 

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The reason why Stevo No. 2 is inconsistent is because he's just actually not very good, I'm sorry to say. It's very hard for average AFL players to play consistently well up forward.

Still a bit more useful than Schell though.
 
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Originally posted by ant
The reason why Stevo No. 2 is inconsistent is because he's just actually not very good, I'm sorry to say. It's very hard for average AFL players to play consistently well up forward.

Still a bit more useful than Schell though.
Same thing was said of M.Stevens when he started with the Crows.
How he is today, doesn't neccessarily mean he will be the same tomorrow:rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Schell had an inferiority complex, didn't believe in his own abilities enough, and stood back too much.
S. Stevens has an excellent footy brain, is young, not as good hands as Schell, but will be a better player than Schell, because of his better self belief as a footballer.
Schell (20-01-1980), 2 clubs, 27 games, 20 goals
Stevens (15-01-1982), 2 clubs, 31 games, 25 goals

They're both travelling about even statswise. I'm not convinced at all - seems far too upright and jerky for my liking, and like Schell he blows far too hot and cold.
 

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#12
Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Same thing was said of M.Stevens when he started with the Crows.
How he is today, doesn't neccessarily mean he will be the same tomorrow:rolleyes:
I tell you what, you can bookmark what I said, if I'm conclusively wrong, I'll apologise. I expect the same if I'm proven right.
 
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Originally posted by ant
I tell you what, you can bookmark what I said, if I'm conclusively wrong, I'll apologise. I expect the same if I'm proven right.
Thats fair - what time frame are we going to give it?
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Thats fair - what time frame are we going to give it?
I'm not too sure, the longer we give it the more accurate and the more fairer the assessment we should be able to make. I say at least until the end of 2005, but if you want to give him 2006 as well, I'll comply. I would love to be proven wrong.

Anyways, I hope at least one of us is still posting!
 

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Originally posted by ant
I'm not too sure, the longer we give it the more accurate and the more fairer the assessment we should be able to make. I say at least until the end of 2005, but if you want to give him 2006 as well, I'll comply. I would love to be proven wrong.

Anyways, I hope at least one of us is still posting!
I know this is not my debate, but I'll bet Stiffy's left one that we have the answer glaring at us by the end of 2005. ;)
 
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Originally posted by ant
I'm not too sure, the longer we give it the more accurate and the more fairer the assessment we should be able to make. I say at least until the end of 2005, but if you want to give him 2006 as well, I'll comply. I would love to be proven wrong.

Anyways, I hope at least one of us is still posting!
By the end of 2006 should be fair - now let me clarify - I think he will be a good average AFL footballer - not a star. But Schell wasn't even an AFL footballer so I'm way in front already.
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
By the end of 2006 should be fair - now let me clarify - I think he will be a good average AFL footballer - not a star. But Schell wasn't even an AFL footballer so I'm way in front already.
I don't know what we're disagreeing about then....I think he is better than Schell as well, but at best is an average footballer.

If he can command a regular place in the 22 and play consistent footy for the Crows, then you will be correct.
 
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Originally posted by ant
I don't know what we're disagreeing about then....I think he is better than Schell as well, but at best is an average footballer.

If he can command a regular place in the 22 and play consistent footy for the Crows, then you will be correct.
yes we agree.
The point I wanted to make was when M.Stevens joined AFC, J.Reid said he was a workhorse, who would have to play at his absolute potential each week, just to get a game.
WOW hasn't that summation changed with time.

My point is I believe S.Stevens has the potential to be viewed in the same light as M.Stevens in time.
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
yes we agree.
The point I wanted to make was when M.Stevens joined AFC, J.Reid said he was a workhorse, who would have to play at his absolute potential each week, just to get a game.
WOW hasn't that summation changed with time.

My point is I believe S.Stevens has the potential to be viewed in the same light as M.Stevens in time.
Same light as a player? If Scott can play CHF or play in the forward line on a regular, consistent basis and be an integral player for us, then I'll be dumbfounded. M. Stevens is one of our most important players and is a very, very good AFL player. Scotty will never be that (IMO), though I concede he may find a position on a half back flank.
 
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Originally posted by ant
Same light as a player? If Scott can play CHF or play in the forward line on a regular, consistent basis and be an integral player for us, then I'll be dumbfounded. M. Stevens is one of our most important players and is a very, very good AFL player. Scotty will never be that (IMO), though I concede he may find a position on a half back flank.
TWT but he could be a very good backline player, as he's such a good reader of the game. My concern would be his pace, if he were placed on a quick player, but certainly could do a job on a tall forwrd.
 

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#21
Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Schell wasn't even an AFL footballer so I'm way in front already.
Bullcrap. He was better than certain players who still survive on our list, including Scott Stevens.

I haven't seen Scott Stevens kick 4 goals (nearly 5) against Brisbane.

Schell was very much good enough to be an AFL footballer, he took some great pack marks and led well. But a combination of poor disposal, irregular selection and a lack of self-belief ended his career.

While he was not excellent, he cops way too much crap and did more in his career to interest me than Scott Stevens has.
 
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Originally posted by spindoctor
Bullcrap. He was better than certain players who still survive on our list, including Scott Stevens.

I haven't seen Scott Stevens kick 4 goals (nearly 5) against Brisbane.

Schell was very much good enough to be an AFL footballer, he took some great pack marks and led well. But a combination of poor disposal, irregular selection and a lack of self-belief ended his career.

While he was not excellent, he cops way too much crap and did more in his career to interest me than Scott Stevens has.
Read above, you just defeated your own argument:)
 

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Originally posted by macca23
I know this is not my debate, but I'll bet Stiffy's left one that we have the answer glaring at us by the end of 2005. ;)
Sorry, missed this post...yes, I'm man enough to admit that it looks like I was wrong (to some degree) about Hentschel. Still a way to go, particularly in proving he can play up forward, but the signs are good and he certainly has some 'poise' ;)
 

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Originally posted by ant
Sorry, missed this post...yes, I'm man enough to admit that it looks like I was wrong (to some degree) about Hentschel. Still a way to go, particularly in proving he can play up forward, but the signs are good and he certainly has some 'poise' ;)
It takes a man to admit it :)

Ah the crap I copped here last year:eek: :eek: :p
 
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