It worries me that Gawn went so far backwards this year, he could legitimately be a one year wonder off the sample size.
What worries me more is he has only put together one injury free season in his career. That's a huge issue at 25
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It worries me that Gawn went so far backwards this year, he could legitimately be a one year wonder off the sample size.
I think it shows we really need a solid backup option.Had a pretty good near two seasons - the Geelong game in 2015 to Round 2 2017.
Cops an awful injury, then just as he finds form gets hurt again.
Think it's just a terribly unlucky year for Max
Have to give him a chance injury free next year to make that call. Interupted season with injuries. Looked like he couldn't or wouldn't jump for some reason. And he needs to work out this straight arm BS over pre season. Actually jumping at the ball should fix that. But he did get soundly beaten around the ground in nearly every game after he came back from injury. So maybe fitness needs to be looked at. I'm not sure. But I'm willing to give him and Hogan passes this year due to their issues. But both need big 2018 seasons if we are to progress again. Both are hugely important to this club as both are clearly A graders at full flight..It worries me that Gawn went so far backwards this year, he could legitimately be a one year wonder off the sample size.
Having had a couple of days to reflect, I'm even angrier and part of me thinks, you know, Jeff Kennett was right - MFC - get in a position to win a Grand Final or **** off! Only in the sporting world could an entity produce no results for 50+ years - conversely, they produce spectacular disappointment every year.
We have turned things around from the Neeld era - but the bar had fallen so unacceptably far then - we've merely upgraded from pitiful basketcase back to soft laughing stock. Last years capitulation against Carlton was bad enough, this years was truly unforgivable. And if anyone thinks next year, we will just naturally progress into the 8 - are in for a nasty surprise. Even with our injuries this year, a top 8 spot couldn't have been easier considering how open the competition has been and how "weak" this year is. That opportunity will not likely occur again. You must make the most of your opportunities, as the Bulldogs did last year. And so what if they didn't make it this year - they've won the premiership. I'll take a premiership hangover over a finished 10th and missing the finals (again) hangover.
I hear that the players are hurting, club has copped plenty of abuse etc. But I have no sympathy, this club cannot continue to let its supporters down in such a way. The club needs to get real, get over it's pathetic past and start producing results ASAP.
A really, really, poor soft, self-indulgent and pathetic year.
Personally I'm embarrassed by it.I'm taking heart in how shattered the playing group is to be honest. The admin, the rest of the club...you get it. But it's the players that need to attack this.
Wouldn't want to get in Viney's way this offseason.
Personally I'm embarrassed by it.
It's just footy.
Save the melodrama for the supporters like us and go out and get yourself a pretty girl and a bag of pills for the holidays.
Just make sure you're right for another solid preseason in 2018 (and remember to take the keys of Clayton next time you're at the pub).
I'm taking heart in how shattered the playing group is to be honest. The admin, the rest of the club...you get it. But it's the players that need to attack this.
Wouldn't want to get in Viney's way this offseason.
Agree given what those two teams achieved in 2017, however when you have senior players getting suspended (Lewis and Vince) and I'm sure there were others during the season for several games surely that makes up the 0.5% that cost the dees 8th spot. (10points according to the stats)When you lose to Norf (twice) and Failmantle this is what you get.
Feeling very flat
Agree given what those two teams achieved in 2017, however when you have senior players getting suspended (Lewis and Vince) and I'm sure there were others during the season for several games surely that makes up the 0.5% that cost the dees 8th spot. (10points according to the stats)
It may have meant that WC would've needed to win by 40+ points against the crows.
Agree given what those two teams achieved in 2017, however when you have senior players getting suspended (Lewis and Vince) and I'm sure there were others during the season for several games surely that makes up the 0.5% that cost the dees 8th spot. (10points according to the stats)
It may have meant that WC would've needed to win by 40+ points against the crows.
Sitting here a bit bored and thought I'd run some numbers around age and experience throughout the year given the discussion, particularly between DemonTim and Hotdees (please don't start up again fellas ). But the debate got me wondering about how we looked compared to our opposition in each game. I went through every Team Review on the MFC site (what a PITA) and grabbed avg age and avg games played and did some analysis.
What the data shows is -
- We went into most games as the younger team (14 to 8)
- We went into most games less experienced (16 to 6)
- We had our best winning probability when we went in more experienced (5 to 1) or older (6 to 2) and we won every game we went in older and more experienced EXCEPT the last game against Collingwoof!!!! (6 - 1). We went in Older and more experienced on QB and won that. I think that may be telling in regards to mind set / nerves for the last game.
- Interestingly however we had arguably our 3 best wins when we went in younger and less experienced (Crows, Eagles and Port)
In summary what this shows us is.... well I don't really know. Nothing really. 22 games is a small data set and it doesn't take into account all the other things such as ladder position, ranking, injuries blah blah blah. (Lies lies and bloody statistics)
I hope this does provide some insight for those asking the questions around ages etc in the GB&F thread.
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Tremendous work, love me a good spreadsheet. Reckon you could probably add a "comparable" column in there, ie the 6 days difference between us and Richmond probably doesn't qualify as making us an older side.
What I'm dying to know though is who you'll be billing for your time, Mr Consultant??
The melt is strong in this oneFkkk off to the following players:
Watts. His chance of staying disappeared with that west coast win. I remember when me and richskee were on here pleading for the club not to take him over Naitanui in that draft and got laughed at. He was a soft school boy footballer, and he's a soft Afl footballer.
Vince. Do not let him set foot in our club again. I'm 100% dead set serious in saying I think he might be involved in spot fixing or something similar.
Neal Bullen. Just like his ridiculous surname, he's a clogger, f him right off.
Stretch. Never going to be a decent player. Bye.
Trengove- a given.
Tyson or Salem. One goes as trade bait.
Not even angry at Adelaide - we have only ourselves to blame yesterday. No only losing, but losing by more than a few points.
I am particularly angry at Vince's lazy spray shot at goal in dying seconds and McDonald for just having them a goal.
F this club.