Analysis Season 2025 - Statistics and Analytics Thread

[Tom14]

Dunno where to go with Charlie. I thought he sorted out his kicking for goal last year when he got more of a routine going bar being confused as to when to go round the corner (why bother ? ) or not.

If you're a small forward not getting a heap of it with those numbers it needs to be fixed. Surely Stu can get hold of him and work out a set routine . Like all good shots for goal have. Or maybe he's tried . Charlie seems to spray his snaps now as well.

It's hard to fathom how a champ with his CV and a flag under his belt can be so lacking in confidence every time he takes a shot. A good start would be to be not so hard on himself and relax .It's pitiful watching him line up , you know where it's going and he seems to as well.

Charlie was one of the worst shots for goal last year too. Set shots were better than this year but general play was just as awful. He had a large number of complete misses.

 

[Dalions]

Charlie was one of the worst shots for goal last year too. Set shots were better than this year but general play was just as awful. He had a large number of complete misses.

I wonder how shots that spray 30m off goal but stay in play rank?
Because there would be a few of them by Charlie.

 

[M Malice]

It was only a few seasons ago that I thought our most reliable set shots were Linc McCarthy, Zac Bailey

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Zac Bailey

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

and Charlie Cameron

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Charlie Cameron

Age

31

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

.

Charlie still slots them in the pre game warm up in a very relaxed style, blow the siren and it looks like his whole body goes into a nervous spasm.

Is Phil Jauncey still around the Lions?

 

[KissKiss]

At this point in his career I find it hard to see how much he could change in his routine (as bad and erratic it is). I agree it looks purely a mental issue as he has no confidence in how to approach any shot

 

[Dalions]

At this point in his career I find it hard to see how much he could change in his routine (as bad and erratic it is). I agree it looks purely a mental issue as he has no confidence in how to approach any shot

I remember Hippy maybe about 5 years ago used to spin the ball around in his hands on approach and kicked like shit most of the time, changed that 1 thing and his goal kicking got much better.

 

[Section 5]

Some interesting stuff here.

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[Tom14]

It is with a heavy heart that I pass on my condolences to Kingy on the demise of his beloved laptop this morning. Farewell sweet prince.

 

[mpal6]

Last 2 wins mean we've moved to our favorite premiership winning 5th spot in ladder.

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[Gadzorks]

In our house jaspa is rated higher than the ashcrofts.

Love these numbers.

 

[Elixuh]

It is with a heavy heart that I pass on my condolences to Kingy on the demise of his beloved laptop this morning. Farewell sweet prince.

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[Gadzorks]

By rating higher i mean jaspa is superman the aahcrofts are batman.

 

[Tom14]

 

[Tom14]

Some good vision and stats on first crack preview showing how we avoid pressure with backwards and sideways handballs to a spare at the back of the contest, letting us transition to the uncontested marking game.

The stats:

• We are AFL 18 for pressure against (i.e. we face the lowest pressure against us in the comp)
• #17 for tackles against - so we don't get tackled much
• AFL #15 for turnovers (so we are 4th best at avoiding turnovers)
• #17 for metres gained by handball - so we do not forward handball and risk intercepts/further pressure.

We are the only team in the comp who hasn't lost both the pressure AND intercept differential in the same game.

We've won the pressure battle against our opposition 11 out of 12 games (reckon we lost the collingwood game maybe) because we are so good at avoiding being pressured.

Of course, this is something I'm pretty sure I pointed out in the 2023 stats and analytics thread (looking at pressure acts differential as a proxy for pressure) and has been a consistent part of out game for years.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Some good vision and stats on first crack preview showing how we avoid pressure with backwards and sideways handballs to a spare at the back of the contest, letting us transition to the uncontested marking game.

The stats:

• We are AFL 18 for pressure against (i.e. we face the lowest pressure against us in the comp)
• #17 for tackles against - so we don't get tackled much
• AFL #15 for turnovers (so we are 4th best at avoiding turnovers)
• #17 for metres gained by handball - so we do not forward handball and risk intercepts/further pressure.

We are the only team in the comp who hasn't lost both the pressure AND intercept differential in the same game.

We've won the pressure battle against our opposition 11 out of 12 games (reckon we lost the collingwood game maybe) because we are so good at avoiding being pressured.

Of course, this is something I'm pretty sure I pointed out in the 2023 stats and analytics thread (looking at pressure acts differential as a proxy for pressure) and has been a consistent part of out game for years.

Great stuff, thanks for sharing, and more importantly for sifting through what was undoubtedly a 29 minute orgy about collingwood and Geelong to bring us these gold nuggets.

 

[Tom14]

Great stuff, thanks for sharing, and more importantly for sifting through what was undoubtedly a 29 minute orgy about collingwood and Geelong to bring us these gold nuggets.

It was in the first 5 minutes

 

[Grasshopper17]

It was in the first 5 minutes

Just watched... Interesting stuff! It was notable how many of our "out the back" handballs missed their target last Thursday, and really opened the door for Essendon to launch an attack out the front of a contested ball situation. Maybe that was partly caused by the conditions... Either way, looking at the forecast we can expect similar conditions in Adelaide on Friday night

 

[Tom14]

Just watched... Interesting stuff! It was notable how many of our "out the back" handballs missed their target last Thursday, and really opened the door for Essendon to launch an attack out the front of a contested ball situation. Maybe that was partly caused by the conditions... Either way, looking at the forecast we can expect similar conditions in Adelaide on Friday night

Yeah wet conditions really aren’t great for any part of our game. At least it will hurt Adelaide as well though.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Some good vision and stats on first crack preview showing how we avoid pressure with backwards and sideways handballs to a spare at the back of the contest, letting us transition to the uncontested marking game.

The stats:

• We are AFL 18 for pressure against (i.e. we face the lowest pressure against us in the comp)
• #17 for tackles against - so we don't get tackled much
• AFL #15 for turnovers (so we are 4th best at avoiding turnovers)
• #17 for metres gained by handball - so we do not forward handball and risk intercepts/further pressure.

We are the only team in the comp who hasn't lost both the pressure AND intercept differential in the same game.

We've won the pressure battle against our opposition 11 out of 12 games (reckon we lost the collingwood game maybe) because we are so good at avoiding being pressured.

Of course, this is something I'm pretty sure I pointed out in the 2023 stats and analytics thread (looking at pressure acts differential as a proxy for pressure) and has been a consistent part of out game for years.

Sounds like Fages the master tactician

 

[Elixuh]

Yeah wet conditions really aren’t great for any part of our game. At least it will hurt Adelaide as well though.

Pre-fagan I thought we were always a pretty good wet weather team. Now we aren’t and it looks like we really struggle with that style. It’s one thing I’m surprised hasn’t developed more.

 

[dlanod]

Pre-fagan I thought we were always a pretty good wet weather team. Now we aren’t and it looks like we really struggle with that style. It’s one thing I’m surprised hasn’t developed more.

Pre-Fagan we were a good wet weather team because it brought other teams down to our skill level...

 

[Tom14]

Wacky stat time: we are averaging 14 more points per game away than at home (100.66 away, 76.83 at home).

We haven't scored 100 points at the Gabba since the Saints game on June 14 last year. If we don't score 100 points against the Giants at the Gabba next week that will be a full calendar year since we have done it.

Granted - weather has affected quite a few games in that time period (Bombes last year, Cats, Suns and Bombers this year) but this is a very strange stat! We have quite a few scores in the 90s though.

 

[Grasshopper17]

100.66 at home, 76.83 away

I'm confused on at least a couple of fronts.

 

[Tom14]

I'm confused on at least a couple of fronts.

Edited

 

[Tom14]

Time for some grim reading:



14th for opposition transition from D50-F50 across the season. Terrible delivery to dangerous areas for turnovers (35-50m out), poor structure for our defence behind it, and poor effort from forwards and mids to pressure all contributing.

Last year's metrics are a mile away.

 

[Nathan Barley]

After 14 games last year our percentage was 122.1, this year it's 110 despite 2 extra wins

Last year we had scored 238 points more than our opponents, this year it's only 115