Season Over - Where to from here? What needs to change?

Will Richmond Win a Grand Final in the next 5 years

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 12 75.0%

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guruisatiger

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Head Coach - Brett Montgomery
Def coach -- Justin Leppitch
.fwd coach -- Danny daily
Mids coach. Sam Mitchell
Ruck clearance -- Matty primus
Head development -Craig Mcrae
Vfl coach? ??
Extra dev coaches - ????
Director coaching. - Chris fagan
Football manager -- Neil blame

The next 11 games we need to look at every player on our list. And see what future these players have. Also see if players can be played in different positions. Would love to see astbury play at full forward give him a run of 5-6 games there if he fails. Then he is gone end of year. Mcbean play 5-6 games as 3rd fwd leading fwd occasionally ruck. Again if he can't make a go of it then gone end of year. Elton 5-6 games full back let's see if he has a future. .cal moore 5-6 games as floating defender 3rd tall down back. Or 4th tall behind jack ast and bean. .Chol needs a few games as well ..Castagna to play permanent small defender. With shorty as other small defender. Drummond when fit takes grimes place in defence. Markov to play wing. Like to see broad play as well down back..
Back 6- broad -elton Castagna
Short -Rance - Drummond
Mids 6- Dusty - Miles - Markov
Maric --vlaustin cotch
Fwds- rioli -- Jack -- Mcbean
Tich -'- astbury -- Lloyd
Inter from - chol.- C.Moore -lids -grigg
Menadue - cellis - Townsend

I'll do trades and delistings soon
 

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tunksy

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Head Coach - Brett Montgomery
Def coach -- Justin Leppitch
.fwd coach -- Danny daily
Mids coach. Sam Mitchell
Ruck clearance -- Matty primus
Head development -Craig Mcrae
Vfl coach? ??
Extra dev coaches - ????
Director coaching. - Chris fagan
Football manager -- Neil blame

The next 11 games we need to look at every player on our list. And see what future these players have. Also see if players can be played in different positions. Would love to see astbury play at full forward give him a run of 5-6 games there if he fails. Then he is gone end of year. Mcbean play 5-6 games as 3rd fwd leading fwd occasionally ruck. Again if he can't make a go of it then gone end of year. Elton 5-6 games full back let's see if he has a future. .cal moore 5-6 games as floating defender 3rd tall down back. Or 4th tall behind jack ast and bean. .Chol needs a few games as well ..Castagna to play permanent small defender. With shorty as other small defender. Drummond when fit takes grimes place in defence. Markov to play wing. Like to see broad play as well down back..
Back 6- broad -elton Castagna
Short -Rance - Drummond
Mids 6- Dusty - Miles - Markov
Maric --vlaustin cotch
Fwds- rioli -- Jack -- Mcbean
Tich -'- astbury -- Lloyd
Inter from - chol.- C.Moore -lids -grigg
Menadue - cellis - Townsend

I'll do trades and delistings soon
You think leppa will actually come back? Thought he was guranteed next year.
 

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We will I think finish 14th . so we will have pick 5 in draft. TV free agency hopefully gives us end of round 1 compensation. Say pick 19.trade. bellis Tich .lids Conca.
Lids -- hawks -- first pick ( 14- 18)
Tich -- essendon. 2nd pick (20.-23)
Conca -- eagles 2nd pick ( 30- 36)
Bellis --' + eagles pick - saints- longer and saints 2nd pick (25 -28).
Trade hammer and Batch for 3rd round picks somewhere between 45and 60. So we have round and about
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16
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49
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What i would try and do with all these picks is to trade them for suns and giants players .can bundle our 3 3rd round picks maybe for a 2nd . also would look. at trading for Prestia and wright from the suns .Tomlinson steele Stewart wilson. Hoskin elliot would be the players I would look to trade in from gws. 2 first round picks and 3 second round picks gws and suns come and get our picks and we will take your players.
 
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guruisatiger

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You think leppa will actually come back? Thought he was guranteed next year.
If he gets sacked who knows. We have-not been the same since Leppa and daily left. Would love to get them back
 

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First off the club should come out and say EVERYONE is under review regardless of contracts and Friday nights game was not acceptable by the players or the coaching staff.

Then the coach should come out and say boys don't forget your mouth guards at training as it's clear as mud we can't handle pressure so from now on every training session will be done under extreme pressure so we get used to it by round 1 next year.

Then the coach needs to announce players by name, TV and Ellis your effort is unacceptable regardless of goals or possessions and your in the 2s for 3 weeks until you consistently meet the standards regardless of who we have fit or how it impacts our structure if you show 3 games at that level you can come back for 1 in the AFL and if it remains high you stay week by week, Grigg, Edwards and others are on notice.

Finally we are to play man on man contested footy and play on at all costs, play the corridor, players that go backwards, sideways or pause and hesitate will be playing with TV and Ellis.

New rules new standards, the past is history so anyone in the side lose all previous credits and anyone not currently in the side lose all demerits, back to square one and all positions are up for grabs.

Dimma stop being a pussy and trying to be liked, your not that smart, you either get ruthless or get out, you have half a season to turn the tide.

I actually think one of the issues are the managers are not qualified as performance operators and are really simply relationship operatives/bureaucrats.

If you look at the background Gale is a lawyer and was head of the Players association was he not, Peggy also is a lawyer and in the insurance quasi regulation game, Malcolm Speed was a Cricket bureaucrat where they not? So really how many if any have a track record in performance management in a competitive environment maximising strengths and mitigating risks?
 

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We will I think finish 14th . so we will have pick 5 in draft. TV free agency hopefully gives us end of round 1 compensation. Say pick 19.trade. bellis Tich .lids Conca.
Lids -- hawks -- first pick ( 14- 18)
Tich -- essendon. 2nd pick (20.-23)
Conca -- eagles 2nd pick ( 30- 36)
Bellis --' + eagles pick - saints- longer and saints 2nd pick (25 -28).
Trade hammer and Batch for 3rd round picks somewhere between 45and 60. So we have round and about
5
16
19
21
26
44
49
58
What i would try and do with all these picks is to trade them for suns and giants players .can bundle our 3 3rd round picks maybe for a 2nd . also would look. at trading for Prestia and wright from the suns .Tomlinson steele Stewart wilson. Hoskin elliot would be the players I would to trade in from gws. 2 first round picks and 3 second round picks gws and suns come and get our picks and we will take your players.
Lids injury issues over last two seasons plus his contract kill the chances of anything close to a first round for him

Sheds isn't what the bombers need

Conca for a second round is insane

Longer has major concussion issues

Gws are making their push, they don't won't to trade away their gun players for kids now.


If we are gunna play the trade game, let's make them realistic
 

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First off the club should come out and say EVERYONE is under review regardless of contracts and Friday nights game was not acceptable by the players or the coaching staff.

Then the coach should come out and say boys don't forget your mouth guards at training as it's clear as mud we can't handle pressure so from now on every training session will be done under extreme pressure so we get used to it by round 1 next year.

Then the coach needs to announce players by name, TV and Ellis your effort is unacceptable regardless of goals or possessions and your in the 2s for 3 weeks until you consistently meet the standards regardless of who we have fit or how it impacts our structure if you show 3 games at that level you can come back for 1 in the AFL and if it remains high you stay week by week, Grigg, Edwards and others are on notice.

Finally we are to play man on man contested footy and play on at all costs, play the corridor, players that go backwards, sideways or pause and hesitate will be playing with TV and Ellis.

New rules new standards, the past is history so anyone in the side lose all previous credits and anyone not currently in the side lose all demerits, back to square one and all positions are up for grabs.

Dimma stop being a pussy and trying to be liked, your not that smart, you either get ruthless or get out, you have half a season to turn the tide.
Sounds like don't let the jumper hit the ground.......lol
 

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Lids injury issues over last two seasons plus his contract kill the chances of anything close to a first round for him

Sheds isn't what the bombers need

Conca for a second round is insane

Longer has major concussion issues

Gws are making their push, they don't won't to trade away their gun players for kids now.


If we are gunna play the trade game, let's make them realistic
Ok first rounder for Hampson:cool: realistic ?
 

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I can't see Hardwick getting the sack after they've just extended his contract after two years. I think this is what will happen;

Mellor and Williams sacked and replaced end of year.
Jackson sacked and replaced
Hartley will see out his contract for next year and then gone.
Richardson will stay but his training wheels are well and truly off. Needs to deliver big time in the next 18 months
They won't sack anyone. Benny and Peggy are
Lids injury issues over last two seasons plus his contract kill the chances of anything close to a first round for him

Sheds isn't what the bombers need

Conca for a second round is insane

Longer has major concussion issues

Gws are making their push, they don't won't to trade away their gun players for kids now.


If we are gunna play the trade game, let's make them realistic
What ever you think Mr expert i bow to your greater knowledge. You obviously know all. How dare i have an opinion or a thought. Im sorry I'll never post on here again unless i get your opinion first
 

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We will I think finish 14th . so we will have pick 5 in draft. TV free agency hopefully gives us end of round 1 compensation. Say pick 19.trade. bellis Tich .lids Conca.
Lids -- hawks -- first pick ( 14- 18)
Tich -- essendon. 2nd pick (20.-23)
Conca -- eagles 2nd pick ( 30- 36)
Bellis --' + eagles pick - saints- longer and saints 2nd pick (25 -28).
Trade hammer and Batch for 3rd round picks somewhere between 45and 60. So we have round and about
5
16
19
21
26
44
49
58
What i would try and do with all these picks is to trade them for suns and giants players .can bundle our 3 3rd round picks maybe for a 2nd . also would look. at trading for Prestia and wright from the suns .Tomlinson steele Stewart wilson. Hoskin elliot would be the players I would to trade in from gws. 2 first round picks and 3 second round picks gws and suns come and get our picks and we will take your players.
Send titch to one of the sa clubs for their first pick?
B.ellis to hawks swans north etc.
Hopefully vickery gets us a good compo pick
 

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They won't sack anyone. Benny and Peggy are

What ever you think Mr expert i bow to your greater knowledge. You obviously know all. How dare i have an opinion or a thought. Im sorry I'll never post on here again unless i get your opinion first
Sorry mate, what was your response to my post I didn't get the all of the second sentence? Something along the lines of Peggy and Brendan are...
 

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They won't sack anyone. Benny and Peggy are

What ever you think Mr expert i bow to your greater knowledge. You obviously know all. How dare i have an opinion or a thought. Im sorry I'll never post on here again unless i get your opinion first
ask yourself what you would pay to get these players to our club

This is almost as bad as people who wanted Thursfield dropped, but then expected a first round pick for him
 
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A full rebuild will fail. We won't be able to engineer enough quality picks to overtake GWS for several years. Our top end is elite, our only chance is to top up through free agency and possibly trading picks and hoping for a bit of luck (i know... i know) that we can get enough support for Rance, Lids, Cotch, Dusty and Jack to snag a flag. The North model if you will.

That said, anyone is tradable for the right price, but think about how much currency a Vickery, Bellis or Conca really has.
 

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We will I think finish 14th . so we will have pick 5 in draft. TV free agency hopefully gives us end of round 1 compensation. Say pick 19.trade. bellis Tich .lids Conca.
Lids -- hawks -- first pick ( 14- 18)
Tich -- essendon. 2nd pick (20.-23)
Conca -- eagles 2nd pick ( 30- 36)
Bellis --' + eagles pick - saints- longer and saints 2nd pick (25 -28).
Trade hammer and Batch for 3rd round picks somewhere between 45and 60. So we have round and about
5
16
19
21
26
44
49
58
What i would try and do with all these picks is to trade them for suns and giants players .can bundle our 3 3rd round picks maybe for a 2nd . also would look. at trading for Prestia and wright from the suns .Tomlinson steele Stewart wilson. Hoskin elliot would be the players I would to trade in from gws. 2 first round picks and 3 second round picks gws and suns come and get our picks and we will take your players.


Overall I like the plan. I agree with you I think we need to be super bold in terms of list transformation, I think the club is thinking in these terms given the amount of players out of contract this year. Media reporting Tyrone is about to get an offer from the Tigers. Let's be honest, doubtful another club will throw the cash at him that would pry him out.


Lids and Tich no way. They're in the leadership group and I'm a big believer in you need experienced heads to help the kids along. We don't have much to offer up other than Conca and Griff. Maybe package up some players and picks to get deals done. Reckon GC more likely to want to talk to us than GWS
 

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Lids injury issues over last two seasons plus his contract kill the chances of anything close to a first round for him

Sheds isn't what the bombers need

Conca for a second round is insane

Longer has major concussion issues

Gws are making their push, they don't won't to trade away their gun players for kids now.


If we are gunna play the trade game, let's make them realistic
ask yourself what you would pay to get these players to our club

This is almost as bad as people who wanted Thursfield dropped, but then expected a first round pick for him
Not all of them i just said these players would be the ones i would target. Did not say we would get them all .just think they are the ones we should be after. If you don't aim high then you will never succeed. Peace out guru
 

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Not all of them i just said these players would be the ones i would target. Did not say we would get them all .just think they are the ones we should be after. If you don't aim high then you will never succeed. Peace out guru
None of those trades you suggested are realistic though. If you want first rounders, talk about trading Cotch, Jack, Rance, or Dusty. They are the only players at our club with that kind of currency
 

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Our only hope of winning a flag is to put all our best players in the vfl and try to win the comp. No matter what we do we will never win a flag in the afl, and tbh we are unlikely to make a prelim in the next 20 years. It's just not in the nature of the club anymore.
 

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All of the usual suspects posting in this thread I see... :drunk:

Who was honestly expecting a win against North this week in Hobart? Like honestly....

Season isn't over until the maths says it is, and considering our next 3 games are against GC (H), Brisbane (H), and Port (A), there's every chance we could get ourselves to 7-7 and still be well in the hunt.

Ffs guys! :tearsofjoy:
 

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All of the usual suspects posting in this thread I see... :drunk:

Who was honestly expecting a win against North this week in Hobart? Like honestly....

Season isn't over until the maths says it is, and considering our next 3 games are against GC (H), Brisbane (H), and Port (A), there's every chance we could get ourselves to 7-7 and still be well in the hunt.

Ffs guys! :tearsofjoy:
That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Is that you Dimma
 

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All of the usual suspects posting in this thread I see... :drunk:

Who was honestly expecting a win against North this week in Hobart? Like honestly....

Season isn't over until the maths says it is, and considering our next 3 games are against GC (H), Brisbane (H), and Port (A), there's every chance we could get ourselves to 7-7 and still be well in the hunt.

Ffs guys! :tearsofjoy:
Woo hoo let's get ourselves back on track for mediocrity
 
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