Roast Second game lost at selection.

[mattys123]

For the second time this year, we have lost a game plainly due to the selection or non selection of certain players.

WHAT HAPPENED;

IN: Wellingham (Midfielder)
Out: Anthony (Forward)

WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED

IN: WELLINGHAM, FRASER
OUT: JOLLY, MACAFFER

Darren Jolly pulled up sore at training, yet we play him against the best team in the league, when we have a 3rd ruck option as an emergency.

MaCaffer simply put, didn't deserve to keep his place, and for Jack Anthony to be dropped for a midfielder was ridiculous.

Second time this year we have dropped a forward (both times Anthony) and bought in a midfielder, and look what happened, WE LOST.

Time to stop mucking around with this stupid ****ing rotations policy, and pick the best and fittest players each week.

We lost that game at the selection panel, AGAIN.

That's my piece for the night, I'm too pissed off to post anything else constructive.

 

[WakeUpPies]

Hi my name is Presti, i am really good at shutting forwards down.

 

[Frankie23]

That is such a cop out.

Don't blame the coaches, we got beaten by the better team. Move on, the selection this week was fine, Macaffer deserved his spot.

 

[mattys123]

Hi my name is Presti, i am really good at shutting forwards down.

I agree, but I thought the accuracy for goals because of the lack of a forward line cost us more then the tall forwards of Geelong.

Presti must play next week, time to cut the shit there too.

Nathan Brown and Ben Reid were good tonight though, same can't be said for some more experienced defenders around them though.

 

[jimmy35]

Bullshit. We weren't clean enough under pressure and our skills were poor when it counted.
Had plenty of chances to win the game and we were found wanting.

 

[Zahki]

Sorry Matty but that's a steaming load. 1 change to a team that demolished Freo should not be the difference between winning and losing. Bringing in Fraser? How do you know he wouldn't just be worse than Jolly, like practically every other game he's played this year?

Nothing more than excuses. We're not good enough to beat Geelong, players need to do some serious soul searching if they're genuine about not wanting to bomb out in the prelim yet again.

 

[Greening Magic]

For the second time this year, we have lost a game plainly due to the selection or non selection of certain players.

WHAT HAPPENED;

IN: Wellingham (Midfielder)
Out: Anthony (Forward)

WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED

IN: WELLINGHAM, FRASER
OUT: JOLLY, MACAFFER

Darren Jolly pulled up sore at training, yet we play him against the best team in the league, when we have a 3rd ruck option as an emergency.

MaCaffer simply put, didn't deserve to keep his place, and for Jack Anthony to be dropped for a midfielder was ridiculous.

Second time this year we have dropped a forward (both times Anthony) and bought in a midfielder, and look what happened, WE LOST.

Time to stop mucking around with this stupid ****ing rotations policy, and pick the best and fittest players each week.

We lost that game at the selection panel, AGAIN.

That's my piece for the night, I'm too pissed off to post anything else constructive.

Constructive

John Anthony the difference? Surely you jest and just because a bloke limps off the training track doesn't mean he's unfit to play.

3 tall forwards against the best side at running it out of defense. Have to disagree with you.

Their skill level (includes decision making) was better than ours. We butchered a lot of chances going forward and that will kill you against the Cats.

They are simply still the best side in the comp. I think we've made some ground but lots more ground to make up. Plenty of 2010 to go.

But blaming the selection committee this week? That would be taking a long bow indeed. Didn't see them miss a goal, not go hard enough or make a skill error all night.

 

[shizzle]

JA would not have been the difference, with the delivery that came in he would have had no chance, btw I can't actually remember him ever having a good time of it against the cats, or any team with a good backline to be brutally honest.

 

[Number 10]

I'm backing you here. In the beginning I was asking myself...
Where is Presti?
Seriously...Where's Presti? Maybe he is taken Wally's job for the month.

Why is Jack being dropped for Wellingham?
We seriously ****ed up - everyone assumed we would have 3 smalls like Cartlon and win - when in fact the only stay at home small forward was Davis and he was atrocious. Left Milburn to float around and double-team both our forward options. We went inside 50 numerous times with no results due to the massive bodies and numbers Geelong could get on our 2 talls.

 

[TradeDraft]

The Selection table can get it really right or very wrong

 

[PieBeast]

I'd say that Jack should have been in the side at the expense of Caff. Not sure if that would have changed the result but at least we would have one more goalkicker in the side in absence of Medders. Sorry to say this but Caff gives us nothing.

 

[Pie eyed]

JA would not have been the difference, with the delivery that came in he would have had no chance, btw I can't actually remember him ever having a good time of it against the cats, or any team with a good backline to be brutally honest.

Agree totally about the delivery. We got sucked into rushing all our forward entries instead of taking a bit of time and allowing the forwards to a) get back and b) make a lead or run into space.
There was a lot of "head" errors tonight...all fixable.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I imagine that Wellingham was picked because his form has been excellent and if he didn't play tonight there was no VFL game for him.

The problem was that we kept O'Bree in the side instead of retaining Jack, and then once again failed to kick a score.

 

[ralu]

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Constructive

John Anthony the difference? Surely you jest and just because a bloke limps off the training track doesn't mean he's unfit to play.

3 tall forwards against the best side at running it out of defense. Have to disagree with you.

Their skill level (includes decision making) was better than ours. We butchered a lot of chances going forward and that will kill you against the Cats.

They are simply still the best side in the comp. I think we've made some ground but lots more ground to make up. Plenty of 2010 to go.

But blaming the selection committee this week? That would be taking a long bow indeed. Didn't see them miss a goal, not go hard enough or make a skill error all night.

Spot on! Brilliant post. We had awful difficulty when the ball hit the deck, having anthony in there would have made little to no difference, and I can guarantee he wouldn't have marked any of the plethora of high balls that consistently came in

 

[HFF]

I said this during the week and as it turned out, there were some puzzling ones.

Seriously, can it be any more obvious that Jack Anthony is in our best 22, particularly if both Cloke and Dawes aren't going to play inside 50?

He is our leading goal kicker from last year (50 goals more than Cloke and Dawes in a single season) and one of the best sharpshooters in the biz. It happened against the Saints and it happened again tonight- just imagine the ball in Jack's hands with the set shots the Caff had. He nails them and we have a blockbuster finish to the game with it in the balance.

Jack is just so reliable to kick goals when the team needs them after a heartbreak of easy misses. Also, he is much cleaner and stronger overhead than Dawes. If you don't believe me, get out the tapes and watch his marking ability- strong and one touch not hands made of concrete like Dawesy's were tonight.

Presti could have been handy but Reid was exceptional I thought and Brown held his own vs Pods. Mooney and Pods didn't destroy us so to speak so both youngsters were very good.

Time to start playing a true FF in the side rather than two CHF's- Jack is needed and anyone that doesn't see this is delusional.

 

[Heater39]

The Selection table can get it really right or very wrong

Funny how it's really right when we win, but very wrong when we lose ey?

 

[dunno4]

There's no way a couple of selections would have made up the difference last night.

Having said that, I would of thought a bit more experience would have been useful for a blockbuster in front of 88,000.

My view is that Lockyer would have been handy instead of McCaffer. Certainly a better kick for goal!!

 

[Optimax]

That is such a cop out.

Don't blame the coaches, we got beaten by the better team. Move on, the selection this week was fine, Macaffer deserved his spot.

This

was lost on field by mentally weak players, not coaches and not selection although presti would have helped

 

[rose jam]

I'm not too concerned about the result, thought we had control of the match longer than they did, and had their midfield well under control for the match without being very clean or great with our decisions.

Think the thing that stood out was the forward line got sucked up the ground too far again because the ball movement from the back half was too slow. Geelong backs will just hold ground and they rebound out too easily too often. Think we've got plenty of time to get that right.