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Whats wrong with bands wanting to sell more records?? Who here can say they don't like money??

Metallica did get Bob Rock in to sell more records and now there music is different. But I don't care, coz they're music is still awesome

And if they get more success by it, best of luck to them
 
Why wouldn't you want to make money from doing what you love. If you can do that while sticking to your principles musically, then good on you. If you feel the need to change to please the masses, then there is no doubt (hint hint) that you have sold out.

BTW, Silverchair kick arse compared to 6 years ago. Listen to Tomorrow, see how shyte of a song it is.
 

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Originally posted by Squeak
BTW, Silverchair kick arse compared to 6 years ago. Listen to Tomorrow, see how shyte of a song it is.
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All a matter of opinion/taste of course, but I think the reverse. That song they have out at the moment; Watching you watch over me or whatever the hell it is called is simply embarrassing. It is a VERY bad song, and a far cry from the stuff they used to do.

I agree with Hitman on this one.
 
Originally posted by Pornstar
All a matter of opinion/taste of course, but I think the reverse. That song they have out at the moment; Watching you watch over me or whatever the hell it is called is simply embarrassing. It is a VERY bad song, and a far cry from the stuff they used to do.

I agree with Hitman on this one.
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Not sure if that makes them a sell out - I reckon the song is just crap!

Their style hasn't necessarily been changed though - when they started they were derivative (from Pearl Jam, STP, Nirvana) and the opening intro to their newie (sounds like formula Creed/Nickelback/Staind/whoever) shows they are still derivative to an extent.
 
I suppose signing a contract with a major company usually means that you have to record the music that your record company wants you to record.

The A & R people of major record companies are almost invariably people who do not have a creative bone in their bodies ... and their tastebuds are usually located somewhere between their buttocks. As result, creative young bands who get "lucky" are often expected to stick to a formula. This will affect the way the sound, the way they look, what they wear etc. etc.

I think changing your musical style in order to become more popular can't be all bad, really. Imagine you're just starting out. You can't sing to save your life, you can't even tune your guitar, let alone play it. You do a few gigs and everyone boos you off stage ... so, what do you do? Well, if you've got any brains, you go off and practise a bit ... improve your singing ... improve your playing ... experiment ... develop your creativity ... then go back and do a few more gigs ... and lo and behold, a few people actually start to like you.

Now, what's wrong with that?

As for bands who stop experimenting ... There probably comes a time when you've pretty much crystallised your style. You've pretty much defined yourself. After half a dozen albums and 10 years of touring the world you finally reckon you've got it nailed. So, you stop trying to reinvent the wheel every time you make a record. You've settled into a groove. Now, a groove can become a rut .... in which case, your next move should be to break up. But it doesn't have to be a rut. It might just be a comfort zone ... a place where you feel you belong. And there's nothing wrong with that either. It doesn't mean you've sold out. It just means you've made it. Congratulations.
 
Artists and bands evolve and over time broaden their influences.

Art is subjective so i personally dont think its fair that the fans put such constraints on artists who are only building on their creativity. Maybe if bands/artists make such a drastic change they should consider a name change?

Speaking of 'Change' it is tough for a lot of fans to take but in the end they have to realize an arist is just that an artist.

Then there are hitmakers and people who are on bandwagons - the clones of popular music that have great success but that is just trends and current music and programmers will follow the bandwagon or apple cart wanting their peice of the 'in' thing.
 
Pantera were definately a glam band. Ive got them on the front cover of Metal Forces in pink tights and pink streaks in their hair. Pretty funny! And you dont want to ask Rex about what he used to call himself back those days - not a happy camper! LOL

Credit to Pantera - from cowboys to Vulgar they jumped leaps and bounds and trade marked a lot of sounds to influence the whole metal movement. Theyve certainly not moved forward with recent albums but I would say that is because the band unit hasnt been a happy one and Id say they are now finnished with Phil's ego out of control.
 
its usually fans or critics who will label someone a sell out

and lets not forget how fickle some fans and critics can be

change shouldnt be such a bad thing but it does scare a lot of people.

is it such a terrible that an artists music reaches more people? a lot of die hards take offence to this because their pet is out of the bag. ..or they dont want to feel like they are listening to the same stuff as joe average who is a boring pencil neck
 
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