Society/Culture Semi-trailers and traffic congestion/accidents.

[Kwality]

And truckies don’t? Keep out the right lanes as well, ******* pain in the arse

Good reason to keep them on the road at night.

 

[owen87]

Trucks deliver in built up areas that are adjacent to residential areas.

He specifically mentioned freeways, so my comment specifically mentioned freeways. Confusing link I know.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

DC's do all that, but you're still using semi's to take stuff into coles and woolies (for example) and this occurs mostly during the day

with perishable esp, you want it out of your dc asap

What perishable are regularly delivered by a semi?
Fresh produce, what else?

Small goods generally come in a van or LR / MR truck. If a supermarket still has an active butcher's shop then it would likely be a MR / HR direct from the abbatoirs, more likely it's cryovacced or prepacked offsite so isn't as time critical. Fresh seafood delivered in a van, specialty cheeses in big blocks in a van.

The bulk dry goods and fresh produce delivered by semi-trailers really should be done very late afternoon / early evening.

I worked with Coles back in the 80s and again in the 90s and then again in 2018. In my 1st stint I spent about a year doing nightfill and in my 2nd stint I was actually a nightfill manager / ordering officer for almost 3 years. In my last short lived stint I was doing some shifts stocking shelves. In my last stint we would be stocking them surrounded by customers, working off unsuitable, collapsible trollies that some one in the storeroom had preloaded for you. It's probably close to, if not, the most inefficient work practice I've seen in my life.

Whatever money they think they're saving by not having anyone working after midnight, I guarantee they more than lose it through inefficiencies and the stores perpetually being half empty and looking like a bomb has hit it.

Zero brains and zero pride with no *s given.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

What perishable are regularly delivered by a semi?
Fresh produce, what else?

Small goods generally come in a van or LR / MR truck. If a supermarket still has an active butcher's shop then it would likely be a MR / HR direct from the abbatoirs, more likely it's cryovacced or prepacked offsite so isn't as time critical. Fresh seafood delivered in a van, specialty cheeses in big blocks in a van.

The bulk dry goods and fresh produce delivered by semi-trailers really should be done very late afternoon / early evening.

I worked with Coles back in the 80s and again in the 90s and then again in 2018. In my 1st stint I spent about a year doing nightfill and in my 2nd stint I was actually a nightfill manager / ordering officer for almost 3 years. In my last short lived stint I was doing some shifts stocking shelves. In my last stint we would be stocking them surrounded by customers, working off unsuitable, collapsible trollies that some one in the storeroom had preloaded for you. It's probably close to, if not, the most inefficient work practice I've seen in my life.

Whatever money they think they're saving by not having anyone working after midnight, I guarantee they more than lose it through inefficiencies and the stores perpetually being half empty and looking like a bomb has hit it.

Zero brains and zero pride with no fu**s given.

Dairy was all in semis

I'm not arguing against midnight trucking, it's already happening. I'm saying doing it nighttime only, with zero in the day is not viable anymore. Everything is built on getting stock to shelf asap

 

[owen87]

What perishable are regularly delivered by a semi?
Fresh produce, what else?

Small goods generally come in a van or LR / MR truck. If a supermarket still has an active butcher's shop then it would likely be a MR / HR direct from the abbatoirs, more likely it's cryovacced or prepacked offsite so isn't as time critical. Fresh seafood delivered in a van, specialty cheeses in big blocks in a van.

The bulk dry goods and fresh produce delivered by semi-trailers really should be done very late afternoon / early evening.

I worked with Coles back in the 80s and again in the 90s and then again in 2018. In my 1st stint I spent about a year doing nightfill and in my 2nd stint I was actually a nightfill manager / ordering officer for almost 3 years. In my last short lived stint I was doing some shifts stocking shelves. In my last stint we would be stocking them surrounded by customers, working off unsuitable, collapsible trollies that some one in the storeroom had preloaded for you. It's probably close to, if not, the most inefficient work practice I've seen in my life.

Whatever money they think they're saving by not having anyone working after midnight, I guarantee they more than lose it through inefficiencies and the stores perpetually being half empty and looking like a bomb has hit it.

Zero brains and zero pride with no fu**s given.

Most companies would likely be better served cutting a middle manager tasked with dealing with transport, paying 50% of that to the transport company to deal with it, and pocketing the other 50%.

 

[Snake_Baker]

And you want them FULL - that means using a DC / cross dock system

FFS!

Okay, Ned.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Never mind DR, he's.............."unique".

 

[Taylor]

There are restrictions of movement due to noise and complaints.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Trains run on timetables. These can be simply adjusted.

Freight trains don't. They're allocated a path and that's about it. It does not mean they use it. They can run early or run late depending on the conditions on the railway. They're at the mercy of the train controller who put passengers trains first.

 

[Taylor]

Freight trains wouldn't run through suburbia during the night either.

Because people can move next to a nightclub and will complain about the noise.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Freight trains don't. They're allocated a path and that's about it. It does not mean they use it. They can run early or run late depending on the conditions on the railway. They're at the mercy of the train controller who put passengers trains first.

They also run straight in to shunting yards for sorting or sit in spurs waiting for unloading.

Rail is not an issue.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Freight trains wouldn't run through suburbia during the night either.

Because people can move next to a nightclub and will complain about the noise.

They do. Well the bits of suburbia that are next to a railway line.

They also run straight in to shunting yards for sorting or sit in spurs waiting for unloading.

Rail is not an issue.

Rails biggest is rail gauge. Moving steel from Hastings to Port Kembla requires it to be put on a different train. Guage converting it is impractical. Having dual gauge restricts speeds to 60 for board gauge trains.

We are not like American railroads where a big train will arrive into a yard and get broken up then the local shunting loco goes and drops off and picks up to the various customers sidings

 

[Snake_Baker]

They do. Well the bits of suburbia that are next to a railway line.

Rails biggest is rail gauge. Moving steel from Hastings to Port Kembla requires it to be put on a different train. Guage converting it is impractical. Having dual gauge restricts speeds to 60 for board gauge trains.

We are not like American railroads where a big train will arrive into a yard and get broken up then the local shunting loco goes and drops off and picks up to the various customers sidings

Thanks for your dazzling knowledge about rail gauges.

What this has to do with the premise of this thread, I do not know.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Thanks for your dazzling knowledge about rail gauges.

What this has to do with the premise of this thread, I do not know.

If we didn't have the silly 6 1/2 inch difference in rail guages we could get more freight on rail. More on rail = less trucks.

 

[Taylor]

If the track was twice the width it would be even better

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

If the track was twice the width it would be even better

Imagine if it was triple the width!

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

What if we allowed city office workers to work from home more regularly after the virus? Would we even need some of expensive new roads?

 

[Taylor]

Imagine if it was triple the width!

You're a visionary!

Somebody promote that man, and give him three times as many NAB shares as usual to make up for the poor performance

 

[its free real estate]

Imagine if it was triple the width!

Oh, she does.

 

[Kwality]

Trucks aren't especially noisy unless they're engine braking, which they likely wouldn't be on freeways.

Then there is manoeuvring on site, e.g shopping centres with multiple loading docks on multiple levels. The noise carries.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

You're a visionary!

Somebody promote that man, and give him three times as many NAB shares as usual to make up for the poor performance

Not even worth it now the interim dividend was reduced to 30c. Just your praise is enough.

 

[Mofra]

What if we allowed city office workers to work from home more regularly after the virus? Would we even need some of expensive new roads?

Four day work weeks have been trialled with some success in quite a few companies and some overseas government agencies. The focus is normally on productivity, but it inevitably reduces over travel congestion too.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Seen some terrible things in the roads in recent hours.

Pleased to see cops in the emergency lane facing toward the traffic

 

[DidakDelight]

Social isolation offence. Is the VIC fine $1652 for Snake Baker?

Most likely he had dinner with a warehouse worker or service advisor or some other shtkicker who has no realistic idea about the overall machinations of the industry.