Senate crossbencher Lucy Gichuhi joins the Turnbull government in shock numbers manoeuvre

[Dry Rot]

Don't even mention Howard in the same breath as Curtin. Do some reading on Australian politics before suggesting that Curtin was in the same galaxy, let alone in the same league as the overtly racist areshole Howard.

First of all, the Labour MOVEMENT is just as the name suggests, it is a movement and it observes, debates, arrives at positions and MOVES on. Howard and his mob of shysters, are the same today as they were in 1788, 1800, 1850, 1880, 1900, 1914, 1920, 1940 ........... 2018: they are there to preserve the status quo for the born-to-rule "caste", nothing more nor nothing less and the only way they gain a foothold in this country, is to be able to con enough people who sell their labour, to vote for them, hence, disgusting phrases like "Howard's battlers".

Curtain rejected racial hatred and called it ‘that poisonous drug’ in 1924 at the Pan-Pacific Trade Union Congress and before that, on the 17th Of August, 1923, he wrote in the Westralian Worker a piece entitled, "The Basis of a World Policy" in which he said "The people of the world have many things in common, economic interests, science, art, ideas, ideals. Ranged against those common interests there are traditions, prejudices, hatreds, national barriers, sectarian differences, language obstacles, and racial conflicts that have proved so effective in keeping peoples separated. The common interests are the vital means of social advancement, and it is upon them that the emphasis of constructive thinking must be laid in any effort to promote world understanding".

Curtin was also the first Australian political leader to press for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples. Just the concept of Indigenous "land rights" was a radically new idea and would not be codified in an international convention until the International Labour Organisation itself did so with its Convention Concerning Indigenous and Tribal Populations in 1957, which in turn inspired Australian advocacy of "land rights" by the Federal Council for the Advancement of Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders in the late 1950s and early 1960s and when did John Curtin push for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples? He did so in 1919 when he wrote in the Westralian Worker, that Australia was fully complicit with the "game of grab" in which "Mr Hughes (Australian Prime Minister) has ever been a clamant voice for Australian annexation in the Pacific" when denouncing the haggling between imperial powers at the Versailles conference and Curtin noted the logical connection between self-determination and de-colonisation. To compare Curtin with Howard is obscene.

John Howard still holds the White Australia policy/principles as his and the Liberal Party's guiding light. In her maiden speech to Parliament, Hanson called for the abolition of ATSIC and John Howard put that into progress. Howard whittled down native title following the Wik decision in the High Court, encouraged vehemently by powerful mining and pastoral interests. Howard has always been Anti Asian and Hanson, a product of the Liberal Party, expressed Howard's views as she expresses the views of Howard via her racist rants and outright lies against Muslims and the moment that anyone points out how grotesque the treatment of Aboriginal people by Australian Governments, Howard comes out and calls it "a black armband view of history", as if to say, "don't worry about it, why should we care!".

The White Australia policy was a manifestation of the times, just as Communism was seen as a solution in Australia by many during and after the Great Depression and onwards during and after WW11. Its easy to invoke the White Australia policy in the 2000's to advance one's argument but that is rather cursory thing to do unless it specifically relates to the time it was formulated. One thing is for sure though, The Labour Movement is progressive, the Liberal/National Parties are there to preserve 1788.

tl;dr

Curtin was a hero; Howard is campaigner

 

[Demosthenes]

lol, triggered.

Curtin was a great PM. He was also, unfortunately, a strong supporter of the White Australia policy. Anyone who pretends otherwise is ignorant or a fool.

 

[Northalives]

lol, triggered.

Curtin was a great PM. He was also, unfortunately, a strong supporter of the White Australia policy. Anyone who pretends otherwise is ignorant or a fool.

Go and do some reading to understand his stance on the White Australia policy: it ain't black and white .

 

[Northalives]

tl;dr

Curtin was a hero; Howard is campaigner

Yep, sorry, I just wanted to make sure I made my point.

You are right, Curtain was a hero and Howard is a ****.

 

[Dry Rot]

Yep, sorry, I just wanted to make sure I made my point.

You are right, Curtain was a hero and Howard is a ****.

Actually I went back and read it. Good post.

Howard is still a campaigner.

 

[Demosthenes]

Go and do some reading to understand his stance on the White Australia policy: it ain't black and white .

I'm sure the KKK think their views are pretty nuanced too

Curtin was a great PM but the sun didn't shine out of his arse

 

[HairyO]

Both parties have a past but is no one concerned that she received only 152 votes at the Australian federal election, 2016?

152 more votes than Kenneally got.

So we are allowed to call females cows here now? Or just the ones who join the Liberal Party?

 

[Lebbo73]

Don't even mention Howard in the same breath as Curtin. Do some reading on Australian politics before suggesting that Curtin was in the same galaxy, let alone in the same league as the overtly racist areshole Howard.

First of all, the Labour MOVEMENT is just as the name suggests, it is a movement and it observes, debates, arrives at positions and MOVES on. Howard and his mob of shysters, are the same today as they were in 1788, 1800, 1850, 1880, 1900, 1914, 1920, 1940 ........... 2018: they are there to preserve the status quo for the born-to-rule "caste", nothing more nor nothing less and the only way they gain a foothold in this country, is to be able to con enough people who sell their labour, to vote for them, hence, disgusting phrases like "Howard's battlers".

Curtain rejected racial hatred and called it ‘that poisonous drug’ in 1924 at the Pan-Pacific Trade Union Congress and before that, on the 17th Of August, 1923, he wrote in the Westralian Worker a piece entitled, "The Basis of a World Policy" in which he said "The people of the world have many things in common, economic interests, science, art, ideas, ideals. Ranged against those common interests there are traditions, prejudices, hatreds, national barriers, sectarian differences, language obstacles, and racial conflicts that have proved so effective in keeping peoples separated. The common interests are the vital means of social advancement, and it is upon them that the emphasis of constructive thinking must be laid in any effort to promote world understanding".

Curtin was also the first Australian political leader to press for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples. Just the concept of Indigenous "land rights" was a radically new idea and would not be codified in an international convention until the International Labour Organisation itself did so with its Convention Concerning Indigenous and Tribal Populations in 1957, which in turn inspired Australian advocacy of "land rights" by the Federal Council for the Advancement of Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders in the late 1950s and early 1960s and when did John Curtin push for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples? He did so in 1919 when he wrote in the Westralian Worker, that Australia was fully complicit with the "game of grab" in which "Mr Hughes (Australian Prime Minister) has ever been a clamant voice for Australian annexation in the Pacific" when denouncing the haggling between imperial powers at the Versailles conference and Curtin noted the logical connection between self-determination and de-colonisation. To compare Curtin with Howard is obscene.

John Howard still holds the White Australia policy/principles as his and the Liberal Party's guiding light. In her maiden speech to Parliament, Hanson called for the abolition of ATSIC and John Howard put that into progress. Howard whittled down native title following the Wik decision in the High Court, encouraged vehemently by powerful mining and pastoral interests. Howard has always been Anti Asian and Hanson, a product of the Liberal Party, expressed Howard's views as she expresses the views of Howard via her racist rants and outright lies against Muslims and the moment that anyone points out how grotesque the treatment of Aboriginal people by Australian Governments, Howard comes out and calls it "a black armband view of history", as if to say, "don't worry about it, why should we care!".

The White Australia policy was a manifestation of the times, just as Communism was seen as a solution in Australia by many during and after the Great Depression and onwards during and after WW11. Its easy to invoke the White Australia policy in the 2000's to advance one's argument but that is rather cursory thing to do unless it specifically relates to the time it was formulated. One thing is for sure though, The Labour Movement is progressive, the Liberal/National Parties are there to preserve 1788.

TL;DR .....Too much bs

 

[Ice-Wolf]

I'm sure the KKK think their views are pretty nuanced too

Curtin was a great PM but the sun didn't shine out of his arse

Of course not, it shined out of Whitlam's everyone knows that

 

[Darkyprotector]

Don't even mention Howard in the same breath as Curtin. Do some reading on Australian politics before suggesting that Curtin was in the same galaxy, let alone in the same league as the overtly racist areshole Howard.

First of all, the Labour MOVEMENT is just as the name suggests, it is a movement and it observes, debates, arrives at positions and MOVES on. Howard and his mob of shysters, are the same today as they were in 1788, 1800, 1850, 1880, 1900, 1914, 1920, 1940 ........... 2018: they are there to preserve the status quo for the born-to-rule "caste", nothing more nor nothing less and the only way they gain a foothold in this country, is to be able to con enough people who sell their labour, to vote for them, hence, disgusting phrases like "Howard's battlers".

Curtain rejected racial hatred and called it ‘that poisonous drug’ in 1924 at the Pan-Pacific Trade Union Congress and before that, on the 17th Of August, 1923, he wrote in the Westralian Worker a piece entitled, "The Basis of a World Policy" in which he said "The people of the world have many things in common, economic interests, science, art, ideas, ideals. Ranged against those common interests there are traditions, prejudices, hatreds, national barriers, sectarian differences, language obstacles, and racial conflicts that have proved so effective in keeping peoples separated. The common interests are the vital means of social advancement, and it is upon them that the emphasis of constructive thinking must be laid in any effort to promote world understanding".

Curtin was also the first Australian political leader to press for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples. Just the concept of Indigenous "land rights" was a radically new idea and would not be codified in an international convention until the International Labour Organisation itself did so with its Convention Concerning Indigenous and Tribal Populations in 1957, which in turn inspired Australian advocacy of "land rights" by the Federal Council for the Advancement of Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders in the late 1950s and early 1960s and when did John Curtin push for "the definition and preservation of native land rights" for Indigenous peoples? He did so in 1919 when he wrote in the Westralian Worker, that Australia was fully complicit with the "game of grab" in which "Mr Hughes (Australian Prime Minister) has ever been a clamant voice for Australian annexation in the Pacific" when denouncing the haggling between imperial powers at the Versailles conference and Curtin noted the logical connection between self-determination and de-colonisation. To compare Curtin with Howard is obscene.

John Howard still holds the White Australia policy/principles as his and the Liberal Party's guiding light. In her maiden speech to Parliament, Hanson called for the abolition of ATSIC and John Howard put that into progress. Howard whittled down native title following the Wik decision in the High Court, encouraged vehemently by powerful mining and pastoral interests. Howard has always been Anti Asian and Hanson, a product of the Liberal Party, expressed Howard's views as she expresses the views of Howard via her racist rants and outright lies against Muslims and the moment that anyone points out how grotesque the treatment of Aboriginal people by Australian Governments, Howard comes out and calls it "a black armband view of history", as if to say, "don't worry about it, why should we care!".

The White Australia policy was a manifestation of the times, just as Communism was seen as a solution in Australia by many during and after the Great Depression and onwards during and after WW11. Its easy to invoke the White Australia policy in the 2000's to advance one's argument but that is rather cursory thing to do unless it specifically relates to the time it was formulated. One thing is for sure though, The Labour Movement is progressive, the Liberal/National Parties are there to preserve 1788.

Very well put
Howard what a embarrassment , country sold out for a BABY BONUS
At least we know price people's souls

 

[Darkyprotector]

I'm sure the KKK think their views are pretty nuanced too

Curtin was a great PM but the sun didn't shine out of his arse

The only hope we have to break this cycle
Get power in both houses and change the friggin senate rules. 12 Tasmania wtf,
Only decent leaders we've ever had who wanta change things are thrown out by a campaigning MSM
THE FOOLS FALL FOR IT
Q&a last night was a disgrace , JONES again showed his sycophant ways
Poor Sally and Steve only honest level headed people their
Trickle down , I call bullshit

 

[Darkyprotector]

Of course not, it shined out of Whitlam's everyone knows that

And elections since show how stupid people are
Free medical, university and sewerage put in , but western Sydney still may vote liberal wtf

 

[Darkyprotector]

TL;DR .....Too much bs

Only to you

 

[Darkyprotector]

152 more votes than Kenneally got.

So we are allowed to call females cows here now? Or just the ones who join the Liberal Party?

What's she getting

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

152 more votes than Kenneally got.

So we are allowed to call females cows here now? Or just the ones who join the Liberal Party?

Have to admit I got kinda angry to read someone using gendered language.

I'm glad Labor replaced one corruptible senator with another.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

And elections since show how stupid people are
Free medical, university and sewerage put in , but western Sydney still may vote liberal wtf

We gotta have a break from Labor every now and then so we can pay for it.

 

[Gough]

We gotta have a break from Labor every now and then so we can pay for it.

You know this government has outspent the previous one, despite screaming of a debt and deficit emergency for five years, and they didn't even have a global financial crisis to deal with. Your parroting a tired and incorrect stereotype.

 

[Darkyprotector]

We gotta have a break from Labor every now and then so we can pay for it.

Lets sell what we got left
That's right we just sold a friggin port
Not much left now
Watch our arses might be all thats left
NEO liberal lol only the greediest and the stupid would believe in benevolence from the wealthy , hey their all so generous in the past right it will trickle down , get a scrap from the table
Economics 101 maintain the assett even more so if its profitable

 

[HairyO]

You know this government has outspent the previous one, despite screaming of a debt and deficit emergency for five years, and they didn't even have a global financial crisis to deal with.

Care to guess which 2 parties have voted against every single piece of cost cutting legislation?

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

You know this government has outspent the previous one, despite screaming of a debt and deficit emergency for five years, and they didn't even have a global financial crisis to deal with. Your parroting a tired and incorrect stereotype.

Some of you lot live in fairy land. As much as you wished we could do everything, we can't, we can't afford it.

As a parent, when the kids ask for something or they want to do a new activity, you either tell them no, you can't afford it or you tell them they can do the activity if they're willing to sacrifice one of their other activities. Their choice.

Politicians don't like saying no because that means someone or some group may not like them, plus it's much easier to keep saying yes all the time when it's not your own money that you've worked for.

It's all well and good to introduce social initiatives, but they cost and unless someone misses out somewhere else then politicians will just have to keep tapping that endless money tree that grows up on the hill there in Canberra.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Lets sell what we got left
That's right we just sold a friggin port
Not much left now
Watch our arses might be all thats left
NEO liberal lol only the greediest and the stupid would believe in benevolence from the wealthy , hey their all so generous in the past right it will trickle down , get a scrap from the table
Economics 101 maintain the assett even more so if its profitable

Which port did we sell?

It's not about getting scraps from the table, it's about living within our means.

 

[Northalives]

I'm sure the KKK think their views are pretty nuanced too

Curtin was a great PM but the sun didn't shine out of his arse

Gandhi also stated unequivocally that India and Indians must support the British in World War One. That does not make him a British collaborator nor an advocate of British Imperialism.

 

[Darkyprotector]

Which port did we sell?

It's not about getting scraps from the table, it's about living within our means.

Darwin refer ROBB

 

[Darkyprotector]

Some of you lot live in fairy land. As much as you wished we could do everything, we can't, we can't afford it.

As a parent, when the kids ask for something or they want to do a new activity, you either tell them no, you can't afford it or you tell them they can do the activity if they're willing to sacrifice one of their other activities. Their choice.

Politicians don't like saying no because that means someone or some group may not like them, plus it's much easier to keep saying yes all the time when it's not your own money that you've worked for.

It's all well and good to introduce social initiatives, but they cost and unless someone misses out somewhere else then politicians will just have to keep tapping that endless money tree that grows up on the hill there in Canberra.

The money trees now in private hands
Few grafts were given to a few people who put some money in the Right POlies pockets
Try the banks, electricity, water and of course mining
Illustrious company that with COURT, LYONS, bilson , ROBB all wallowing in the trough
But let's keep selling our arse eh to whoevers got some cash , a knighthood like BRUCE ?
LUBE at the ready
If you're got kids and bring em in to the world , do something
About it,

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Darwin refer ROBB

I thought it was leased, albeit, for 99 years.