LukeParkerno1
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Don't want a bar of it at that price, happy to risk it. Hauraki I don't mind to knock Palentino off.
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Don't want a bar of it at that price, happy to risk it. Hauraki I don't mind to knock Palentino off.
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Also quite rare for Melbourne horses to be heavily backed in Sydney - I reckon they'll come for Hauraki.
Trivia time - who was the last Victorian horse to win an Epsom?
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True. Certainly in no hurry to dive into $6 this early in the week but price seems about right given his form and who he beat last start
Gee, Fat Al? Golden Sword back in the early 90's?
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Fat Al was Gai - Golden Sword was a Kiwi wasn't he?
Bugger. Thought Fat Al was Moody? Could be right on Golden Sword. I took a stab in the dark there.
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Think Fat Al ended up with Moody but when it won the Epsom was trained by Gai and wore light/fluro blue silks.
That would explain it. I've honestly got no clue then.
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Breednet has it as John Denham? - http://www.breednet.com.au/stakes-race-results/stakesResults.asp?mdate=2/10/1993&v=RANDWICK&r=6
Although given Shelly Hancox owned it that does suggest it was probably a Vic
If not then it's him - otherwise it's Super.
The point is - it's a Sydney horses race
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a Handicap mile in and around the Makybe, RC and Toorak. not sure why a victorian would go up there and still not sure why he's going up there. clearly best horse in it but would have stuck at WFA and a strong CP prep.
same as the slipper. the diamond is right there and you don't have to travel. plenty attempt to do both but too much on a young horse. slipper isn't a sydney horse race it's just the way it works.
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Tautology - they just find ways to get beat. You're kidding yourself if you don't think Sydney horses go better in the Slipper than they would in Melbourne and vice versa
Slipper - Epsom - Doncaster - don't back Melbourne horses
Cups - don't back Sydney horses
Whatever the reasoning this goes a long way to helping you find those who can't win
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Pinker Pinker the last to place for the Vics as far as I can see.
Certainly improved when going back to Victoria though
Certainly improved when going back to Victoria though
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Pinker Pinker the last to place for the Vics as far as I can see.
Certainly improved when going back to Victoria though
melbourne horses SP under $10 have a 100% strike rate in placing in the last 5 years
only 4 have contested the race in the last 5 years by my count. hoodoo's mean nothing as long as you account for the logic behind them.
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Good stat - I am only a win better though
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Golden Sword was trained by Meagher when he won the Epsom/Toorak double. Was retired to stud but didn't fire! Returned to racing under tutelage of Jack Denham but broke down in a Chipping Norton if memory serves correctly.
I'm on Makintosh for the Epsom
I'm on Makintosh for the Epsom
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To be fair not many Melbourne horses go up for the Epsom as they stay in Melb for the spring. Super Impose was thought to go better the Sydney way of going most of his career although he did go up there to meet weaker horses at the time
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Agree. In recent years it has been more of a good horses race than a Sydney horses races imo
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Funny how hen Gai was dominating Sydney fields, group races & premierships it was a breath of fresh air. Chris Waller does it, racing is predictable & boring.
Interesting how Crownbet put 2.25 up for Onei Sword for the flight. She is now into $1.6
Interesting how Crownbet put 2.25 up for Onei Sword for the flight. She is now into $1.6
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wut? The exact same complaints were made when Gai was dominating
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Random question - does anyone know the dimensions of the physical best bets racebook?
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fair enough I just couldn't recall them.
Sounds like Sir Isaac Newton's probably coming over for the CC. His form was good up until his last run in the Irish Champion, albeit a very strong race. Assured of a run with 54.5kgs.
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