Seriously , do these AFL honchos just sit around dreaming up ways to screw over WA football all day ?

[bzparkes]

West Australians: We are the richest state in the country.

West Australians: Send us all your money.


Go play in another league, no-one really cares.

Ah no.

We want our money back, instead of given out to struggling clubs like the Magpies.

 

[bzparkes]

Well they aren't producing new players any more so one has to wonder what it is they are actually contributing?

What's NSW contributing, other than debt?

 

[Former Decathlete]

 

[Former Decathlete]

What's NSW contributing, other than debt?

Bugger all. But that's the whole point.

The competition can only survive in its current form as a proper national comp if Vic, SA and WA are strong footy states producing players.

Anyway it looks like Qld will pick up the slack from WA in producing players and WA will become a net importer of players.

That's good. You can spend more time on the State Sport - whinging about the over east conspiracies.

At least NSW is easy to travel to for everyone.

It's just interesting that when WA first came in to the comp it was because WA produced so many good players. The competition needed WA.

Not sure where you expect good new players to come from? Sounds like you expect them to all come from "over east"?

 

[Purple Suit]

West Australians: We are the richest state in the country.

West Australians: Send us all your money.


Go play in another league, no-one really cares.

It’s really not a hard concept. Like GST, the money is collected by the Feds (AFL) and is distributed back. WC & Freo got the smallest distributions last year, both less than Collingwood and we have to pay for grassroots. Seems fair.

Possible solutions could be massive pokie dens funding grass roots footy like what happens in Victoria & Queensland. Or we could get WC to crack open the safe, and actually use the 100m in the bank vault for something.

 

[bzparkes]

Bugger all. But that's the whole point.

The competition can only survive in its current form as a proper national comp if Vic, SA and WA are strong footy states producing players.

Anyway it looks like Qld will pick up the slack from WA in producing players and WA will become a net importer of players.

That's good. You can spend more time on the State Sport - whinging about the over east conspiracies.

At least NSW is easy to travel to for everyone.

So, NSW is a welfare state then?

Must be nice to sit there telling other states what to do, whilst living off their good graces.

Basically a little Victoria at this stage.

 

[Former Decathlete]

So, NSW is a welfare state then?

Must be nice to sit there telling other states what to do, whilst living off their good graces.

Basically a little Victoria at this stage.

Yes of course when it comes to the AFL NSW is a welfare state.

That's obvious.

That's the price to pay for the credibility and sponsorship halo that comes with being a proper national competition.


It's just weird WA are so keen on also becoming one.

For what it's worth I would also think the AFL are very disappointed at the lack of draftees from NSW.

 

[Former Decathlete]

So, NSW is a welfare state then?

Must be nice to sit there telling other states what to do, whilst living off their good graces.

Basically a little Victoria at this stage.

Not telling anyone what to do just pointing out the disappointing number of quality players coming from WA in recent times.

You frame it anyway you like.

If you think it's "over east" people picking on you then that's you not me.

I just think it's a shame a once footy powerhouse state has stopped producing players for some inextricable reason

 

[go_the_dockers]

WA complaining about not getting enough development funding but also allowing themselves governance independence from the AFL is the point here.

You can't have it both ways. The WAFC has certain rules that the AFL doesn't want (e.g. Each draftee has to play 1 game of at least colts WAFL footy to be drafted, why Tim English was drafted as a 19 year old because he didn't play any games as a 18 year old) which shows that the WAFC sacrifice more money to be able to run rules their way.

If WA people want more money in footy, they have to get with the program, - allow AFL to run footy in the state - or not. I really don't care which path they choose, bur I don't blame the AFL for not handing as much money over to a body that wants to continue independent.

As mentioned earlier, why would WA trust the AFL to adequately fund and run WA development.

They have shown in the past they don't care about it, and they don't run development very well outside of Victoria.

 

[bzparkes]

Yes of course when it comes to the AFL NSW is a welfare state.

That's obvious.

That's the price to pay for the credibility and sponsorship halo that comes with being a proper national competition.


It's just weird WA are so keen on also becoming one.

For what it's worth I would also think the AFL are very disappointed at the lack of draftees from NSW.

How are WA a welfare state? They basically prop up the entire competition.

If the AFL want more draftees from WA, then they should pay for it.

 

[bzparkes]

Not telling anyone what to do just pointing out the disappointing number of quality players coming from WA in recent times.

You frame it anyway you like.

If you think it's "over east" people picking on you then that's you not me.

I just think it's a shame a once footy powerhouse state has stopped producing players for some inextricable reason

Again, that's the AFL's problem, not WCE's or Freo's.

 

[Former Decathlete]

Again, that's the AFL's problem, not WCE's or Freo's.

Maybe but a world exists where the AFL bring in another Qld team, move GWS to Canberra and have an 18 team national AFL league.

Freo and the Eagles can play each other every week with their local sub standard suburban players and you can all get behind the mighty Bears.

 

[Purple Suit]

Not telling anyone what to do just pointing out the disappointing number of quality players coming from WA in recent times.

You frame it anyway you like.

If you think it's "over east" people picking on you then that's you not me.

I just think it's a shame a once footy powerhouse state has stopped producing players for some inextricable reason

It's not a mystery. Money = Better training for kids and better future players. You want more WA players, you need to spend the same money as over East.

Since it's such a issue, the solution would be to give WC & Freo their own academies with all the kids in it from WA and cheap draft access. Both clubs will happily fund it and WC might even get competitive in a short 4-5 year timeframe.

 

[WilloTree]

It's just interesting that when WA first came in to the comp it was because WA produced so many good players.

No it wasn't. That was State of Origin. WC entered the VFL to save it from going broke.

 

[Grumpyshades]

Good to see all the Vic clubs playing in their home state this weekend. What are the odds. They are so hard done by the fixture usually

 

[threenewpadlocks]

As mentioned earlier, why would WA trust the AFL to adequately fund and run WA development.

They have shown in the past they don't care about it, and they don't run development very well outside of Victoria.

Whatever you think about the northern academies, they're run very well. Talent League is run well. The U18 championships are run well. The lack of trust is entirely on WA's part, not because the AFL have failed elsewhere.

And if WA don't "trust" AFL, you're just going to have to make do with less money. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Dazb86]

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Wow W.A has got seriously weak genetics

 

[Former Decathlete]

Good to see all the Vic clubs playing in their home state this weekend. What are the odds. They are so hard done by the fixture usually

I think most fair minded people acknowledge that WA teams get screwed by the draw and travel.

Still sad WA now can't produce its own players and relies on Vic to send players over to keep the Perth sides competitive.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Whatever you think about the northern academies, they're run very well. Talent League is run well. The U18 championships are run well. The lack of trust is entirely on WA's part, not because the AFL have failed elsewhere.

And if WA don't "trust" AFL, you're just going to have to make do with less money. Can't have it both ways.

Does the AFL run them or the clubs?

I thought the reason the academies were there, was because the AFL did a poor job and the clubs needed to take over.

What junior development does the AFL run well, outside of Victoria?

Happy for the academy model, I think it would work well.

 

[thistimeforsure]

So after all this angst

Is it

A ) Freo is the 2nd richest club in the comp and has suddenly jumped up 6-7 spots from last year

OR

B ) WA is getting ****ed over by the AFL as per

 

[LoungeLizard]

It’s really not a hard concept. Like GST, the money is collected by the Feds (AFL) and is distributed back. WC & Freo got the smallest distributions last year, both less than Collingwood and we have to pay for grassroots. Seems fair.

Possible solutions could be massive pokie dens funding grass roots footy like what happens in Victoria & Queensland. Or we could get WC to crack open the safe, and actually use the 100m in the bank vault for something.

Or you could just join the WAFL and tell the AFL to gagf, easy.

All I ever see in here is the same people whinging about every little thing about the AFL, just leave, no-one will care.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Or you could just join the WAFL and tell the AFL to gagf, easy.

All I ever see in here is the same people whinging about every little thing about the AFL, just leave, no-one will care.

It IS called the AFL isn’t it ?

It’s SUPPOSED to be our comp just as much as yours but in your head it’s still the VFL and annoying houseguests aye

 

[LoungeLizard]

It IS called the AFL isn’t it ?

It’s SUPPOSED to be our comp just as much as yours but in your head it’s still the VFL and annoying houseguests aye

And all you ever do is whinge, no-one if forcing you to play in this league, all we ever here about how far you have to travel every 2nd week.
Well stay there and you won't need to travel at all.
But no, you lot would rather whinge about how hard done by you are.

 

[Humblebob]

It IS called the AFL isn’t it ?

It’s SUPPOSED to be our comp just as much as yours but in your head it’s still the VFL and annoying houseguests aye

Start your own comp and see how healthy the bank balance remains. There's a reason West Coast and Freo, which were names created out of thin air, have more money and funding then the WAFL clubs.

It's because no-one else in the country gives 2 F's about the WAFL and nor do most of your state. Why you people pretend that the reason you have money is all down to your own hard work is beyond me.

Secede. Then you can all argue about how the 5 teams in Perth have to travel less than Karratha and maybe give the rest of us a spell from your perpetual victim complex.

 

[fnerd]

Spend at or under the soft cap then.

If the eagles were smart they’d launder their afl $$$ through a third party business and then use that money to make third party payments to players and rort the cap.

Put that $100m in the bank to WORK.

Aka the Geelong model?
(Formerly Carlton’s)