Settling the Moore-Bin Laden issue once and for all

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I gave this its own thread to highlight it, given most of you terrorist-sympathisers ignored my post about Bin Laden's brother on the other thread.

It seems Michael Moore also agrees that Bin Laden copied him and is taking credit for it. Now I'm not one for conspiracy theories (unlike Ah_19 who believes Zionists have been responsible for every Arab atrocity since the Bedouin tribal wars of pre-Islamic Arabia). But is it out of the question that Moore and Bin Laden are in direct contact? Well, maybe not, but in any case, there can be no doubt Moore is a Bin Laden supporter with the sort of stuff you are about to read below.

And as for what Moore said about Bin Laden and the F9/11 DVD (I've highlighted it because I know some of you are a bit slow), it is the final evidence needed to prove that GuruJane has DEFEATED all of you.


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-11-01

To George W.:

I know it’s gotta be rough for you right now. Hey, we’ve all been there. “You’re fired” are two horrible words when put together in that order. Bin Laden surfacing this weekend to remind the American people of your total and complete failure to capture him was a cruel trick or treat. But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he’s laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead?
There he was, OBL, all tan and rested and on videotape (hey, did you get the feeling that he had a bootleg of my movie? Are there DVD players in those caves in Afghanistan?)
Speaking of my movie – can I ask you a personal question before we part ways for good on Tuesday? Why did you and your friends fund SIX “documentaries” trashing me -- but only ONE film against Kerry? C’mon, he was the candidate, not me. What a waste of your time and resources! Sure, I know what your pollsters told you, that the film had convinced some people to vote you out. I just want you to know that that was not my original intent. Funny things happen at the movies. Hope you get to see a few at the multiplex in Waco. It’s a great way to relax.
 

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MillerCHF said:
I gave this its own thread to highlight it, given most of you terrorist-sympathisers ignored my post about Bin Laden's brother on the other thread.

It seems Michael Moore also agrees that Bin Laden copied him and is taking credit for it. Now I'm not one for conspiracy theories (unlike Ah_19 who believes Zionists have been responsible for every Arab atrocity since the Bedouin tribal wars of pre-Islamic Arabia). But is it out of the question that Moore and Bin Laden are in direct contact? Well, maybe not, but in any case, there can be no doubt Moore is a Bin Laden supporter with the sort of stuff you are about to read below.

And as for what Moore said about Bin Laden and the F9/11 DVD (I've highlighted it because I know some of you are a bit slow), it is the final evidence needed to prove that GuruJane has DEFEATED all of you.


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-11-01

To George W.:

I know it’s gotta be rough for you right now. Hey, we’ve all been there. “You’re fired” are two horrible words when put together in that order. Bin Laden surfacing this weekend to remind the American people of your total and complete failure to capture him was a cruel trick or treat. But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he’s laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead?
There he was, OBL, all tan and rested and on videotape (hey, did you get the feeling that he had a bootleg of my movie? Are there DVD players in those caves in Afghanistan?)
Speaking of my movie – can I ask you a personal question before we part ways for good on Tuesday? Why did you and your friends fund SIX “documentaries” trashing me -- but only ONE film against Kerry? C’mon, he was the candidate, not me. What a waste of your time and resources! Sure, I know what your pollsters told you, that the film had convinced some people to vote you out. I just want you to know that that was not my original intent. Funny things happen at the movies. Hope you get to see a few at the multiplex in Waco. It’s a great way to relax.
Talk about nuff-nuffs. Are you really so simple that you think the other thread was simply about whether Bin Laden had seen Moore's Film? (not that moore sounded too sure that Bin Laden had seen it).

It's about guidance and influence. That both Bin Laden and Moore can both point out the stupidity of Bush's administration doesn't mean they're made from the same cloth.

And why do you accuse Moore of being a Bin Laden supporter? Where did he say he supported Bin Laden or his actions? Or is it this just something you supposed to try and justify the blood of Iraqis, Palestinians and Israelis dripping off your hands?
 

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MillerCHF said:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-11-01

To George W.:

I know it’s gotta be rough for you right now. Hey, we’ve all been there. “You’re fired” are two horrible words when put together in that order. Bin Laden surfacing this weekend to remind the American people of your total and complete failure to capture him was a cruel trick or treat. But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he’s laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead?
There he was, OBL, all tan and rested and on videotape (hey, did you get the feeling that he had a bootleg of my movie? Are there DVD players in those caves in Afghanistan?)
Speaking of my movie – can I ask you a personal question before we part ways for good on Tuesday? Why did you and your friends fund SIX “documentaries” trashing me -- but only ONE film against Kerry? C’mon, he was the candidate, not me. What a waste of your time and resources! Sure, I know what your pollsters told you, that the film had convinced some people to vote you out. I just want you to know that that was not my original intent. Funny things happen at the movies. Hope you get to see a few at the multiplex in Waco. It’s a great way to relax.
How you feeling now Mr. Moore?
 

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Miller did you miss this bit:

"But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he’s laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead?"

Seems Moore not such a big OBL fan eh? I guess that bit does not fuflfil your rabid dreams?

I note underpant and toilet paper stocks have risen in anticipation of much creaming of pants and ********ing?
 

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And the lunatic left head for another fall.

WIll they turn to their messiah Mad Dog Moore to lead them to the promised land?

To do that of course he has to get them out of manure creek and find a paddle first!


HAHAHAA! :D :D :D
 

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MillerCHF said:
...there can be no doubt Moore is a Bin Laden supporter with the sort of stuff you are about to read below.
Dear self-appointed-Guru Jane,

I apologise unreservedly. You're by no means the most idiotic neo-con on this board. MillerCHF has taken up that baton and gone so far with it that its unbelievable, leaving you so far behind you look like a lefty peacenik.

cheers
Q
 

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Dear self-appointed-Guru Jane,

I apologise unreservedly. You're by no means the most idiotic neo-con on this board. MillerCHF has taken up that baton and gone so far with it that its unbelievable, leaving you so far behind you look like a lefty peacenik.

cheers
Q
Dear Mr Q

From self appointed GuruJane.

Have you ordered your F9/11 DVD yet for nostalgic viewing?

Alas, you have betrayed your total ignorance of what comprises a neo con.
I have noticed absolutely nothing to indicate that MillerCHF comes from a left wing base, unlike myself. They neocons genesis is in the radical left of the 1970s, Mr Q. There is nothing right wing about them. (If you want to look up who is right wing, google Pat Buchanan and you will find he is on your pseud side)

In the wake of the American people's stunning repudiation of pseudery in all its forms, I am happy to be a neo con.
 

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Dear Mr Q

From self appointed GuruJane.

Have you ordered your F9/11 DVD yet for nostalgic viewing?
Sorry, haven't seen F9/11 for the first time as yet. Moore is interesting - sometimes, but its not like I can't form my own opinions. You making assumptions or something Jane?

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Alas, you have betrayed your total ignorance of what comprises a neo con.I have noticed absolutely nothing to indicate that MillerCHF comes from a left wing base, unlike myself.
Meh, right at the moment, the neo-cons are fairly solidly controlling the right wing of politics. Anyway, I've not yet seen one thing that gives me any reason to assume you have *any* left wing leanings. In fact, I'm yet to see you post on anything other than international affairs, and on those, you're firmly in bed with the Bush administration (and 100% in line with MillerCHF as far as I can tell) - thus all evidence points to you being fairly right wing.

Hell, I've never even seen you mention footy, so I'm having trouble working out why you spend so much time on this site.

GuruJane said:
In the wake of the American people's stunning repudiation of pseudery in all its forms, I am happy to be a neo con.
Why does this not surprise me. Use the word pseud all you like, the real pseudo-leftist is someone who claims to stand on the left, yet is clearly in bed with the right of politics - like you.
 

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Mike seems to be awfully silent on his web site in the last 48 hours.

I think Trump has come down and told him



YOU'RE FIRED FAT LEFTY.



Look out Maccas, he is depressed and will be on a gluttony binge.
 

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I gave this its own thread to highlight it, given most of you terrorist-sympathisers ignored my post about Bin Laden's brother on the other thread.

It seems Michael Moore also agrees that Bin Laden copied him and is taking credit for it. Now I'm not one for conspiracy theories (unlike Ah_19 who believes Zionists have been responsible for every Arab atrocity since the Bedouin tribal wars of pre-Islamic Arabia). But is it out of the question that Moore and Bin Laden are in direct contact? Well, maybe not, but in any case, there can be no doubt Moore is a Bin Laden supporter with the sort of stuff you are about to read below.
And as for what Moore said about Bin Laden and the F9/11 DVD (I've highlighted it because I know some of you are a bit slow), it is the final evidence needed to prove that GuruJane has DEFEATED all of you.


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php?messageDate=2004-11-01

To George W.:

I know it’s gotta be rough for you right now. Hey, we’ve all been there. “You’re fired” are two horrible words when put together in that order. Bin Laden surfacing this weekend to remind the American people of your total and complete failure to capture him was a cruel trick or treat. But there he was. 3,000 people were killed and he’s laughing in your face. Why did you stop our Special Forces from going after him? Why did you forget about bin Laden on the DAY AFTER 9/11 and tell your terrorism czar to concentrate on Iraq instead?
There he was, OBL, all tan and rested and on videotape (hey, did you get the feeling that he had a bootleg of my movie? Are there DVD players in those caves in Afghanistan?)
Speaking of my movie – can I ask you a personal question before we part ways for good on Tuesday? Why did you and your friends fund SIX “documentaries” trashing me -- but only ONE film against Kerry? C’mon, he was the candidate, not me. What a waste of your time and resources! Sure, I know what your pollsters told you, that the film had convinced some people to vote you out. I just want you to know that that was not my original intent. Funny things happen at the movies. Hope you get to see a few at the multiplex in Waco. It’s a great way to relax.
I really fail to understand where you made the link that MM is a fan of OBL and is in contact with him?

Agreed they both have a similar enemy..but that doesnt join them at the hip.I am certain if ANY link was found MM would be sitting next to David Hicks awaiting trial.MM is a CRITIC of George Bush and as a critic he is allowed a point of view..whether it is right or wrong he is allowed to criticize and draw attention to what he feels is wrong..whether he is right or wrong ..who knows.But if you stop the right to argue and criticize then you become all the things you wish to stop.

If someone came along on BF and said ''no more Israeli rhetoric'' I am sure you will be first in line at Freds front door insisting on your right of reply.

Yes MM will either continue his fight against Bush or look for another target.. Israel next please Mr Moore
 

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MGREG said:
Mike seems to be awfully silent on his web site in the last 48 hours.

I think Trump has come down and told him



YOU'RE FIRED FAT LEFTY.



Look out Maccas, he is depressed and will be on a gluttony binge.
you need new writers tossbag
 

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Sorry, haven't seen F9/11 for the first time as yet. Moore is interesting - sometimes, but its not like I can't form my own opinions. You making assumptions or something Jane?
Yes!

Meh, right at the moment, the neo-cons are fairly solidly controlling the right wing of politics. Anyway, I've not yet seen one thing that gives me any reason to assume you have *any* left wing leanings. In fact, I'm yet to see you post on anything other than international affairs, and on those, you're firmly in bed with the Bush administration (and 100% in line with MillerCHF as far as I can tell) - thus all evidence points to you being fairly right wing.
????? I am surprised that my background had escaped you, as have referred to it often here. Have also often referenced to lastsuperpower.net and Harry's Place and other Left wing/pro overthrow of fascism sites. The term "pseudo left" was coined by the Left, not the Right.

However, it is true, I am now definitely defining myself as a neo con. The neo cons evolved in the 1970s. Their characteristics are:

1. Left background in adolescance

2. Radical on social issues (eg abortion, gay rights, human rights etc).

3. Secular, not religious.

4. Opposed to all forms of fascism and totalitarianism.

5. Opposed to Kissinger/Nixon Doctrine of detente and propping up dictatorships.

6. Greatly influenced by Solzenitzen in the 70s and 80s.

7. Very early identification of rise of islamofascism dating from the establishment of the first modern theocratic extremeist Islamic State (Iran)

8. Greatly influenced by the Iranian fatwa on Salman Rushdie.

9. Very early identification of fascism and German style national socialism as the driving ideology in the Middle East, exemplified by the Baathist regime and Saddam Hussein (although it emerged early than that under Nasser)

10.Conviction that only spread of universal values of democracy, freedom, liberty and western style economies etc can defeat fascism eg post war Germany and Japan)

So far all of those neo con values are shared with the "Real Left". Where the neo cons break company with the real left is in their support for zionism. That's what I have in common with MillerCHF. My guess is that he would also be on the vanguard side of social issues, Jews usually are. That's another reason why they are so feared and loathed by the islamofascists who are mysoginistic and homophobic.

Hell, I've never even seen you mention footy, so I'm having trouble working out why you spend so much time on this site.
???? I thought it was a convention of this site that one's football preferences are rarely used to make political points?

Why does this not surprise me. Use the word pseud all you like, the real pseudo-leftist is someone who claims to stand on the left, yet is clearly in bed with the right of politics - like you.
This is the debate that has been taking place inside the Left ever since 9/11.

In UK the extreme left wing social workers party has made common cause with extreme Muslim organisations that openly espouse the persecution of homosexuals and the relegation of women to the burqa.

As have previously mentioned, the more broad pseudo left position is shared by the far reactionary right (eg Pat Buchanan).

After 9/11 Bush and the, if you like "radical" right, moved to adopt the neo con position . It wasn't the other way around, if you get what I mean.

After 9/11 Bush, correctly, understood that the only way to defeat islamofascism was to use US military and economy power to create the conditions where democracy and free market economies could liberate the oppressed from the tyrannies.

Bush articulated this simple message over and over again in this election campaign and this overcame the stuff ups his Admin has made in the conduct of the war.
 
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