SFL Division One - 2011

[Mahalo]

Not sure about Keys but Parkdale are
They are sick of all the travel

I think you will find that Keysie have also applied. They are sick of all of the thrashings.

To be fair Dingley were in exactly the same position a few years back, we couldnt compete against clubs that had so much drawing power and Sponsor $$$ i.e. Beaconsfield, Berwick, Narre and Pakenham, not to mention Cranbourne.

 

[mcglede]

Shattered? Perish the thought, I'm quite delighted being in my new role of People's Champion - I will cherish the honour bestowed upon me when it comes to keeping the b-----d's honest!

Can't argue that Big Footy isn't well moderated. All the abuse gone, so there goes 75% of your wisdom, Mahalo.

The champ has spoken!!

 

[Fish 20]

Not sure about Keys but Parkdale are
They are sick of all the travel

Parkdale were almost across the line last year but the rumour was they wanted to go straight into SFL Div 1, but that wasn't the deal on the table.

Parkdale swore til they were blue in the the face on the VAFA board that this was all BS & they weren't even thinking contemplating the move.

Heard from a guy at work last year (yeah yeah I know) that he was told by a committee man at Parkdale to watch this space.

Currently Parkdale are 2nd in VAFA D1 & a chance to jump back into C Grade, but maybe like a lot of district clubs are sick of the travel/VAFA admin. They all laughed at Bentleigh for returning to the SFL, but I can say our crowds have being more than 10 fold this year with local footy not to mention extra revenue across the bar & canteen & only taking 5-10 mins to get home from an away game.

I'll go over to VAFA Div 1 board to suss it out

 

[batfink]

Would Div 2 sides allow Parkdale to go straight to Div 1?
How competitive would the top sides from Div 2 be in Div 1?
Could someone from Clayton tell us if they have a stronger or weaker side this year compared to last year as this would give some guage on the gulf between the 2 divisions.

 

[Rooster 24]

Parkdale were almost across the line last year but the rumour was they wanted to go straight into SFL Div 1, but that wasn't the deal on the table.

Parkdale swore til they were blue in the the face on the VAFA board that this was all BS & they weren't even thinking contemplating the move.

Heard from a guy at work last year (yeah yeah I know) that he was told by a committee man at Parkdale to watch this space.

Currently Parkdale are 2nd in VAFA D1 & a chance to jump back into C Grade, but maybe like a lot of district clubs are sick of the travel/VAFA admin. They all laughed at Bentleigh for returning to the SFL, but I can say our crowds have being more than 10 fold this year with local footy not to mention extra revenue across the bar & canteen & only taking 5-10 mins to get home from an away game.

I'll go over to VAFA Div 1 board to suss it out

Reckon they would be a very good fit for the SFL, and that’s from a VAFA bloke. They never really threatened to get beyond C grade in the ammos and their 19s were non competitive in the bottom grade. They do have a pretty loyal supporter base and anyone who has played there would agree they are welcoming and generally well run club. Geography would make the SFL a logical choice and give them the opportunity to find a local market and build from the 18s up. The rise of St Bedes as a powerhouse club is what has really hurt them. This year they are travelling quite well in D1 (4th Div). The sticking point would be Div. 2 entry. They gave a couple of SFL Div 1 clubs a touch up in practice games in the pre-season. I know you should not put too much emphasis on practice games but the reality is that their current list is probably a much better standard than SFL Div 2 and this would not be good for Parkdale or the opposition. Holdsworth may have to bite the bullet for the greater good of the SFL and other clubs and allow Div 1 entry. Would that be likely and how would it be received by other clubs in the SFL?

Having said all that to the best of my knowledge there has been no talk about this in VAFA circles.

 

[superfreak]

Would love to have Parkdale back in the SFL. If it means they come straight into Div 1, so be it. Would create a more competitive comp.

 

[footballs great]

Yeah they should be put in Div 1 and they are a top fit for SFL
So that would be Clayton going down with TM ???

 

[Fish 20]

I don't think Div 2 teams would have problem them going straight into Div 1 as going on this years results thus far & praccy matches, the SFL would only be delaying the inevitable by putting them in Div 2

Would definately make the SFL a lot stronger comp replacing another mssing piece to the puzzle. That makes only Ormond, Hampton & Beaumaris to go ...... only joking my VAFA friends

 

[leftfootkick]

SFL would be silly to suggest Parkdale should start in D2.

They would easily be a top 4 SFL D1 side.

They have recruited well over the summer and have poached a few kids from St. Bedes.

Would be great for the league if they come accross!

 

[Cthebombersflyup]

SFL would be silly to suggest Parkdale should start in D2.

They would easily be a top 4 SFL D1 side.

They have recruited well over the summer and have poached a few kids from St. Bedes.

Would be great for the league if they come accross!

Not sure about these comments beat 2 undermanded sides in pr season would be bottom 2 or 3.

Players come and go, so they have recruited well this year next year they could have an exodus so saying they have recruited well might be the case, but every years different.

 

[Cthebombersflyup]

Let's just assume the ladder in all divs stay as they are with top side winning the flag, the make up of the 3 divs will look like this in 2012.

D1
East Brighton
St Kilda Cty
Chelsea Hghts
St pauls
Cheltenham
Dingley
Mordialloc
Heatherton
Parkdale
Highett

10 sides

D2
TM
Clayton
Springvale Dist
Murrumbeena
Bentleigh
Oak Dist
South Yarra
Skye
Hampton
Black Rock
Keysborough
Mt Waverley

12 sides

D3
Ashwood
Caulfield
Sandown
Sth Dragons
Dandenong
Moorabbin
Lyndale
Dovet Eagles
End Hills

9 sides

Have heard numerious whispers.

 

[footballs great]

SFL would be silly to suggest Parkdale should start in D2.

They would easily be a top 4 SFL D1 side.

They have recruited well over the summer and have poached a few kids from St. Bedes.

Would be great for the league if they come accross!

They would be around 5-7 they wouldn't beat any of the top 4 with the team they have now
there is a big difference's beating a team in a paccy match

But they would be good for the comp

 

[mcglede]

But are not Parkdale an amateur team presently?

You're right in that there could be an exodus, however if there's licence to spend a bit of coin, they could quite easily cover for any exodus, or indeed, become a genuine contender.

Good for the league of they come across.

The Champ has spoken!!

 

[footballs great]

But are not Parkdale an amateur team presently? very funny

You're right in that there could be an exodus, however if there's licence to spend a bit of coin, they could quite easily cover for any exodus, or indeed, become a genuine contender.

Good for the league of they come across.

The Champ has spoken!!

But are not Parkdale an amateur team presently? very funny

 

[mcglede]

I'd say that's a horrible insinuation to make FG, but as I know of three ammo clubs who were going under the table to players just under a decade or so, I think I see what you mean.

The Champ has spoken.

 

[inureface]

I'd say that's a horrible insinuation to make FG, but as I know of three ammo clubs who were going under the table to players just under a decade or so, I think I see what you mean.

The Champ has spoken.

#YOU THINK # how thick are u

 

[mcglede]

Don't question your champ, champ!

 

[Fish 20]

Let's just assume the ladder in all divs stay as they are with top side winning the flag, the make up of the 3 divs will look like this in 2012.

D1
East Brighton
St Kilda Cty
Chelsea Hghts
St pauls
Cheltenham
Dingley
Mordialloc
Heatherton
Parkdale
Highett

10 sides

D2
TM
Clayton
Springvale Dist
Murrumbeena
Bentleigh
Oak Dist
South Yarra
Skye
Hampton
Black Rock
Keysborough
Mt Waverley

12 sides

D3
Ashwood
Caulfield
Sandown
Sth Dragons
Dandenong
Moorabbin
Lyndale
Dovet Eagles
End Hills

9 sides

Have heard numerious whispers.

I think you're spot on there with you're assumption. Have heard Hallam are following their Colts into SFL next year as well. Would you put them Div 3? I don't know enough about them.

I tell you what, if Holdsworth & his team at SFL HQ can have the league looking like this next year, then the league has gone from what was known at a basket case to a very, very formidable competition in the span of 5 years.

 

[Cthebombersflyup]

Currently Hallam have a supers side only and a moderate Junior club,they would need to get at least 20 to 30 more players from existing MPNFL clubs within the area i would think this is a long shot.

Narre foxes JFC played 18's a few years ago and moved on after 1 year at least the league is trying to grow.

 

[WhoDat]

Let's just assume the ladder in all divs stay as they are with top side winning the flag, the make up of the 3 divs will look like this in 2012.

D1
East Brighton
St Kilda Cty
Chelsea Hghts
St pauls
Cheltenham
Dingley
Mordialloc
Heatherton
Parkdale
Highett

10 sides

D2
TM
Clayton
Springvale Dist
Murrumbeena
Bentleigh
Oak Dist
South Yarra
Skye
Hampton
Black Rock
Keysborough
Mt Waverley

12 sides

D3
Ashwood
Caulfield
Sandown
Sth Dragons
Dandenong
Moorabbin
Lyndale
Dovet Eagles
End Hills

9 sides

Have heard numerious whispers.

Parkdale like Bentleigh have found the ammos travel onerous. The fact that they are not supposed to pay players has been a burden and yet the clubs still have to raise $100K plus to survive whatever the competition is they play in. Far better to play Divvy 1 SFL than D1 ammos. Fact remains if you don't have a school feed you'll never get to A grade ammos and cannot recruit if you don't pay. Defection from SFL to VAFA has proved a failure as the benefits perceived don't manifest

 

[Cthebombersflyup]

Parkdale like Bentleigh have found the ammos travel onerous. The fact that they are not supposed to pay players has been a burden and yet the clubs still have to raise $100K plus to survive whatever the competition is they play in. Far better to play Divvy 1 SFL than D1 ammos. Fact remains if you don't have a school feed you'll never get to A grade ammos and cannot recruit if you don't pay. Defection from SFL to VAFA has proved a failure as the benefits perceived don't manifest

Many sides left the SFL years ago are starting to see them as a viable league, it's time the League was pro active and started to court some of these clubs back as Chadstone ( Sydal-Tally Ho ) in D4 are an ex SFL side and would be welcomed back with open arms.

They could start in D3 to fill in the void of a 9 team comp.

 

[mcglede]

Given that Chadstone has not won a game in the seniors (percentage of 15) and reserves (percentage of 9) so far in 2011, it's fair to say there's be several D3 sides who would welcome them with open arms.

Do they still play at the field where boundary umpires fear to venture to the far side?

 

[WhoDat]

Given that Chadstone has not won a game in the seniors (percentage of 15) and reserves (percentage of 9) so far in 2011, it's fair to say there's be several D3 sides who would welcome them with open arms.

Do they still play at the field where boundary umpires fear to venture to the far side?

They would want to improve. I, perrsonally have only ever seen 1 Divvy 3 game and superules is a better standard

 

[WhoDat]

Given that Chadstone has not won a game in the seniors (percentage of 15) and reserves (percentage of 9) so far in 2011, it's fair to say there's be several D3 sides who would welcome them with open arms.

Do they still play at the field where boundary umpires fear to venture to the far side?

Whats with the 2 up 2 down crap It's hard enough to make the jump if you have the best team in the lower division. Just ask Clayton officials. Let alone being runners up. 2nd Division is littered with clubs that cannot make the jump. Oakleigh, Caulfield, Murrembeena, Ashwood, Springvale, Highett. All have seen some time in Division 1 but are not up to it. Clayton on the other hand have some history and have won 1st Division premierships something none of the clubs named can boast

 

[Rooster 24]

Given that Chadstone has not won a game in the seniors (percentage of 15) and reserves (percentage of 9) so far in 2011, it's fair to say there's be several D3 sides who would welcome them with open arms.

Do they still play at the field where boundary umpires fear to venture to the far side?

Chadstone have not won a senior game since 2008 and I believe they have won just 1 reserves game in the same period. They are in the lowest VAFA Grade (D4 – 7th division) and to say they are re-building would be an understatement. However they are putting 2 teams on the park each week and as incredible as it sounds have actually improved in the last month or so. I guess the aim for them is just to be competitive and win a game or 2 without the added burden of paying players at this stage. I really don’t know much about the standard of SFL Div 3 but if Chaddy have not won a game for 3 years in the 7th grade of the VAFA would they be anymore competitive in the SFL? And McGlede their home ground is in the suburb that us older blokes still call Jordanville. Used to be scary place back in the day.