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Confirmed Shane Mumford rejoins GWS under new preseason signing rules

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  1. Isaac Cumming No 1

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    I read the article. Did you read the thread? It's not a long one.
     

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  2. David C

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    The only part I question is how he can be signed as a free agent to the rookie list? Wouldn't it have to be on the main list or go to the rookie draft?
     
  3. Isaac Cumming No 1

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    It seems so. My assumption is if the free agent thing thing is correct is he goes to the main list.
    I think it is based on the CBA but happy to debate.

    Whether it actually matters with two floating spots between 38-40 that can be main list or rookies is arguable. He would be upgraded quickly anyway, no way is he going to undertake an off season to play NEAFL. Shit can happen though.

    The ostensible reason for a comeback is that he's beating the other rucks on our list in training.
     
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    I don't have an issue with this, what's the problem?
     
  5. Isaac Cumming No 1

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    More if it's possible under the rules and how I think. For me help to understand hiw it can happen was interesting.

    The odd troll is inevitable, but given the rich opportunity, there's very little of it.
     
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    Proctor is on the money here as to the mechanic - GWS roll out of the RD with a vacant list spot then add Mumford directly.
     
  7. WilloTree

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    I read the title and thought you meant he could nominate his favorite nightclub.
     
  8. John_Proctor

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    This post was prescient.

    Clarke using this rule to join Essendon.

    http://m.afl.com.au/news/2018-11-15/new-rookie-rules-clarke-mumford-free-to-join-club-of-choice

    This rule could new mature age players being drafted is a thing of the past. It includes players who have previously nominated for the draft. If the afl approved it Tim Kelly could have signed for west coast or freo without going into the draft last year.

    Get the impression this special treatment might only be for delisted veteran players. They may not give dispensation to skip the draft to guys like Kelly.
     
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    So with this new eule, Could Jye Bolton be added straight to the rookie list? Or Mitch Grigg? Schloithe? What are the requirements?
     
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    Yes, anybody delisted can use this rule, unless they delist or retire themselves this year.
     
  11. PieLebo87

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    Did he get picked or what?
     

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    No official announcement at this stage but I think the club has alluded to it being certain it in some articles I have read
     
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    How so? Didn’t the draft come and go?
     
  14. fridgeman

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    The new pre season list period from Dec 1 - March 15 for ex AFL players and those passed over in the draft to be picked up
     
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    Ow, I see. Thank you.
     
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    Leon confirmed today we will list him. Exoect an announcement in the next few days. Probably Monday
     
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    That tweet seems to be deleted but here’s another
     
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    Tks. I can see it, but maybe it's a cache thingy.
     
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    Very poor move.

    Was very overrated based on his dog acts around the footy field and "toughness". If he is rucking for us toward the end of the season (and Flynn is fit), we are shooting ourselves in the foot. Obviously the Giants list management staff know far more than me, but I don't like this at all.
     
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    My thoughts are he is there until they believe Briggs is ready(which wont be long).

    Sorry to say but Flynn may have missed the boat.

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  22. Isaac Cumming No 1

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    I dont think Mummy's a dirty player. The only time I've seen him suspended he was trying to pull out of a high tackle and got one week.

    He's uncompromising and generally bigger and stronger than his opponent which leads to dominant and painful tackles. It's actually a vexed question when a player is so dominant because it is a risk to the people he tackles.

    It's not just Mummy Nic Nat used his bulk to hurt Polec ( from memory) and did get suspended. So did Tex Walker when he physically dominated and rag dolled Josh Kelly.

    Rugby has introduced a duty of care. IE where you have complete physical control of a player in a tackle you are resonsible first and foremost for their safety. I think the AFL needs to expand this concept, which is kinda entering the interpretations gradually I think.

    Not sure about whether it would stop Mummy though. Most of his tackles that hurt are front on taking the player in a bear hug. He has to be allowed to shirt front opponents in possession of the ball. Possibly the secondary motion of falling on top of the player could be looked at more closely and penalised if it's avoidable.

    I'm happy he's back, and comfortable backing the coaches decisions.
     
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  23. gordo2016

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    What a joke. One poor season off becoming another Gold Coast and GWS bring back this hack. Laughable.
     
  24. General Giant

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    Shouldnt you be worrying about your own mob.

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  25. Isaac Cumming No 1

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    We turned over less of our list than you did this off season. You know that very young very talented list you had.
     
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