Shane O'Bree

[ralu]

I know alot of people on the pies board really dislike this man, but i believe he needs to be respected alot more. He was always seen as a weak, outside footballer, but in last couple of seasons and especially this year he has been hard, tough and clean at the stoppages and always seems to be getting first hands on the ball or clearances.
In the last 5-6 weeks he has been in our best which is a brilliant effort and goes widely unnoticed by many who grossly underestimate him. He may not have the class of a kerr, mitchell or ablett around stoppages but he sure gets the job done. It may be the younger players getting the credit from the media and spectators but im sure that inside the club blokes like licca, burnsy and 'O B one kanobi' that recieve lots of respect.
Thoughts??

 

[Frederlick]

I know alot of people on the pies board really dislike this man, but i believe he needs to be respected alot more. He was always seen as a weak, outside footballer, but in last couple of seasons and especially this year he has been hard, tough and clean at the stoppages and always seems to be getting first hands on the ball or clearances.
In the last 5-6 weeks he has been in our best which is a brilliant effort and goes widely unnoticed by many who grossly underestimate him. He may not have the class of a kerr, mitchell or ablett around stoppages but he sure gets the job done. It may be the younger players getting the credit from the media and spectators but im sure that inside the club blokes like licca, burnsy and 'O B one kanobi' that recieve lots of respect.
Thoughts??

4 points, he is part of it, don't make excuses for him because he dosen't need it. He has played regularly this year and the team is high on the ladder so he is obviously doing OK.

 

[Pie eyed]

I know alot of people on the pies board really dislike this man, but i believe he needs to be respected alot more. He was always seen as a weak, outside footballer, but in last couple of seasons and especially this year he has been hard, tough and clean at the stoppages and always seems to be getting first hands on the ball or clearances.
In the last 5-6 weeks he has been in our best which is a brilliant effort and goes widely unnoticed by many who grossly underestimate him. He may not have the class of a kerr, mitchell or ablett around stoppages but he sure gets the job done. It may be the younger players getting the credit from the media and spectators but im sure that inside the club blokes like licca, burnsy and 'O B one kanobi' that recieve lots of respect.
Thoughts??[/quote
I agree 100%...all our older players, Obree, Wakelin, Licca, Lonie, Burns et al all played well today and deserve to be spared the "Trade for younger model" sign around the neck for at least a week.

 

[AsianWithAFro]

yeah why do people give him a bad name. His a loyal servant for us and that's what you need. We can all be very critical on our players and Chessy seems to battle it out each week getting valuable possies for his team his having a great year and is defiantly contributing.

 

[Coin_Toss]

He doesn't carry the ball as much as Ben Johnson, but he doesn't need to because that's not his strength. He's very strong in the upper torso, he is an extractor when he gets first hands on the ball and he clears the ball with ease at the clearances. Has been a pretty good servant.

 

[Paul.]

His clearances are important this year.

I've had my say.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

The reason people have aneurysms over O'Bree isn't to do with his attack on the footy, which has always been fine. It's to do with what he does with the footy once he's got it. Let's not tiptoe around the main issue: he's a terrible kick. And because he's slow he can't break lines and ends up running in circles or holding the ball up when he's chased.

They're the issues.

On the other hand, as you say, he wins a shitload of clearances. You just have to balance one against the other. He's definitely part of our best 22 at the moment. But personally, I think he's also an example of some of our biggest deficiencies: lack of midfield pace and footskills.

 

[FadeAway]

I know alot of people on the pies board really dislike this man, but i believe he needs to be respected alot more. He was always seen as a weak, outside footballer, but in last couple of seasons and especially this year he has been hard, tough and clean at the stoppages and always seems to be getting first hands on the ball or clearances.
In the last 5-6 weeks he has been in our best which is a brilliant effort and goes widely unnoticed by many who grossly underestimate him. He may not have the class of a kerr, mitchell or ablett around stoppages but he sure gets the job done. It may be the younger players getting the credit from the media and spectators but im sure that inside the club blokes like licca, burnsy and 'O B one kanobi' that recieve lots of respect.
Thoughts??

Agree, i call him the "Turtle" because of a stupid article written by the herald SCUM in 2005 but you know what? he is all over it. Some times he goes missing but he does tha hard yards and isnt as slow as what people make him out to be. Love his work!

 

[jerry springer]

great player, has no weaknesses in his game

 

[Chase the Ace]

Playing his best footy since 2002. Would be very high in Copeland voting.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I know alot of people on the pies board really dislike this man, but i believe he needs to be respected alot more. He was always seen as a weak, outside footballer, but in last couple of seasons and especially this year he has been hard, tough and clean at the stoppages and always seems to be getting first hands on the ball or clearances.

Wait... What?

O'Bree was always seen as a strong inside specialist, but one that was an atrocious kick and extremely slow. He still is those things, but he's managing to do cover up his weaknesses and play to his strengths.

 

[buckstheking]

His having a good year,so far..
It amazes me that the pickles on B/F keep writing him off
They must watch different games to me
He's without doubt in our best 22

 

[toommy]

The reason people have aneurysms over O'Bree isn't to do with his attack on the footy, which has always been fine. It's to do with what he does with the footy once he's got it. Let's not tiptoe around the main issue: he's a terrible kick. And because he's slow he can't break lines and ends up running in circles or holding the ball up when he's chased.

They're the issues.

On the other hand, as you say, he wins a shitload of clearances. You just have to balance one against the other. He's definitely part of our best 22 at the moment. But personally, I think he's also an example of some of our biggest deficiencies: lack of midfield pace and footskills.

i don't think he is that slow in a100 yard dash with licca he wins by 20 meters and his kicking is not that bad at least he can use both feet it just lacks depth i rate james manson a terrible kick

 

[toommy]

Wait... What?

O'Bree was always seen as a strong inside specialist, but one that was an atrocious kick and extremely slow. He still is those things, but he's managing to do cover up his weaknesses and play to his strengths.

you have no idea mate, seriously

 

[MACDAICOS]

I love S.Obree

 

[Palmer Stoat]

i don't think he is that slow in a100 dash with licca he wins by 20 meters and his kicking is not that bad at least he can use both feet it just lacks depth i rate james manson a terrible kick

We're just gonna have to disagree on this one, then. First, Licuria is dead slow. Dragging him off in a footrace ain't anything to write home about. Second, IMO he wouldn't beat Licca by 20m, anyway. Third, he is a terrible kick. His kicking effectiveness is 60%, which is 12% below the AFL average and significantly below any of our other permanent or part-time mids.

 

[toommy]

We're just gonna have to disagree on this one, then. First, Licuria is dead slow. Dragging him off in a footrace ain't anything to write home about. Second, IMO he wouldn't beat Licca by 20m, anyway. Third, he is a terrible kick. His kicking effectiveness is 60%, which is 12% below the AFL average and significantly below any of our other permanent or part-time mids.

thats because half the time he is slapping on to his boot around the corner out of a clearence situation under pressure from opposition.so stick your stats. he will play until we have someone better to come in and play his roll week in week out but we haven't got anyone so get over it

 

[Palmer Stoat]

thats because half the time he is slapping on to his boot around the corner out of a clearence situation under pressure from oppostion.so stick your stats.

Yeah, well explain to me, genius, why Scott Burns has a far greater effective kicking percentage? He's at the bottom of just as many packs as O'Bree. The difference, you fricking cretin, is because Scott Burns can kick the ball.

he will play until we have someone better to come in and play his roll week in week out but we haven't got anyone so get over it

Where did I say anything otherwise? Learn to read (and spell), moron.

 

[toommy]

Yeah, well explain to me, genius, why Scott Burns has a far greater effective kicking percentage? He's at the bottom of just as many packs as O'Bree. The difference, you fricking cretin, is because Scott Burns can kick the ball.




Where did I say anything otherwise? Learn to read (and spell), moron.

typical w***er? a hack supporter bags his own team and players you are type of supporter the players hate and i hate. probably has never played a game of football in his life. just a little t#rd who bags players over the safety of the fence and people behind the safety of a computer , so crawl under that rock from which you came and take your percentage with you maggott!!!

 

[Palmer Stoat]

tough talk sitting behind your computer , care to walk the walk

Yeah, good comeback, sweetheart.

I take it that's your way of conceding that you're out of your depth.

 

[toommy]

Yeah, good comeback, sweetheart.

I take it that's your way of conceding that you're out of your depth.

well your the one who started the abuse

 

[Palmer Stoat]

typical w***er? a hack supporter bags his own team and players you are type of supporter the players hate and i hate.

Did you even READ my original post? I said positive things about O'Bree, and I said negative things about O'Bree. Now, if you wanna break out the pom-poms and pretend that all Collingwood players are great in all areas of the game, then be my guest. But I'm gonna call it as I see it, and not because I enjoy bagging Pie players, but because I live in something I like to call 'reality'.

Fact is, when I used stats and, you know, logic to counter your garbage, you had nothing. Nothing. Instead of getting angry because you lost an argument, just be a man and admit you were wrong. Or at least don't cry about it.

probably has never played a game of football in his life. just a little t#rd who bags players over the safety of the fence and people behind the safety of a computer , so crawl under that rock from which you came and take your percentage with you maggott!!!

Wow, that's uncanny. Ever thought of volunteering your psychic skills to the police? Actually, while we're on the topic, how about giving me some Tattslotto numbers?

 

[Palmer Stoat]

well your the one who started the abuse

Let me get this straight... I wrote a post disagreeing with yours, and you reply by telling me to 'stick your stats' and 'get over it', but I started the abuse? Pull the other one.

I've seen you post in other threads, Toommy, and you can scarcely write a single post without calling other posters a 'clown' or something similarly insulting.

Well, that's fine. But if you're gonna dish it out, you should cop it sweet when it comes back at you.

End of discussion.

 

[richardnose]

bitchfight.

i'd say toommy wins on points.

o'bree has been great.

 

[prO]

The reason people have aneurysms over O'Bree isn't to do with his attack on the footy, which has always been fine. It's to do with what he does with the footy once he's got it. Let's not tiptoe around the main issue: he's a terrible kick. And because he's slow he can't break lines and ends up running in circles or holding the ball up when he's chased.

They're the issues.

On the other hand, as you say, he wins a shitload of clearances. You just have to balance one against the other. He's definitely part of our best 22 at the moment. But personally, I think he's also an example of some of our biggest deficiencies: lack of midfield pace and footskills.

Judd, is a shit overhead mark, and his kicking doesn't even come close with the likes of Hodge and other superstar players in their bracket [ even before Judd's recent injury ] and yet, it is his speed and his ability to win the clearances, that makes him a valuable asset to West Coast.

Obree is even more valuable to us than Judd is to WC on the simple fact we dont have many players who can extract the ball. It's easy to point the finger at O'bree when we lose games - hes not the most naturally gifted player. Compare that to Leon Davis - who is probably our most skillful player, and people still want him traded because hes not consistent enough. Yes thats right - a small forward not consistent enough.

The way I see it is people just need someone to vent their frustration at when the team loses - they did it with Rhyce Shaw [ i was one of them ], they did it with Tarkyn Lockyer [ i always knew he was a star ], and now it seems even while we are winning - its Obree's and Ben Johnson's turn.