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As did the other 10 players.He could’ve won us this Test, but he failed, predictably.
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As did the other 10 players.He could’ve won us this Test, but he failed, predictably.
Reported for abuse. Enjoy your ban.Piss off.
Will do.As did the other 10 players.
Reported for abuse. Enjoy your ban.
Reported for mind games. Can see it being extended now.Will do.
Where's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.Reported for mind games. Can see it being extended now.
Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support now and then.Where's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.
Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support, andWhere's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.
Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support now and then.
To be fair I used to treat Neser in a similar way, but I’m trying to get better.
Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.
He's hit a century in the first innings after each recall. Then he bats like a crab. Agree that he's not necessarily a crab, but he does hold one of Australia's least wanted record in more than 130 years of cricket - consecutive single figure scores.Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.
I’ll just finish this by saying that nobody is more disappointed than me how Marsh’s career has panned our. On talent alone he should have played 100 Tests and averaged 45+. It’s overly simplistic to label him a crab and move on like most on here seem to. But he’s definitely underperformed.
Does that mean he should be out straight away? Not in my mind. The alternatives are no better.
Poor bloke.Unfortunately for him he'll continue to be under pressure to make runs.
I agree. The hatred is quite unbelievable. Even yesterday, people didn't want Marsh to do well because it would mean he keeps his place, but wanted the team to win? Strange.Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.
I’ll just finish this by saying that nobody is more disappointed than me how Marsh’s career has panned our. On talent alone he should have played 100 Tests and averaged 45+. It’s overly simplistic to label him a crab and move on like most on here seem to. But he’s definitely underperformed.
Does that mean he should be out straight away? Not in my mind. The alternatives are no better.
When he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.
One or two good Shield seasons doesn't elevate you to a level above. Adam Voges has a better record overall and averaged 100+ for a full Shield season. Marsh averages 50 once and people lose their minds. If you look at Marsh's record and peak in Shield cricket he's about at the level of Joe Burns. He's no Hussey. Hodge, Katich etc. nor is he well ahead of his contemporaries.
It was a bad run, no call. But there's heaps of occasions he just flat out panicked and chucked his wicket away in the 90sWhen he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.
Admittedly it's been a while since I watched the footage, but I seem to recall that the run was Katich's call.When he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.
Played it behind point and started for the run. Both would've made it comfortably. Poor old Watto.Admittedly it's been a while since I watched the footage, but I seem to recall that the run was Katich's call.
It’s been three seasons at least. No one is saying he’s in the Hussey or Katich mould, but he’s at the front of the queue. Sucks to be Australian cricket at the moment but here we are. His Shield record is clearly above the likes of Finch, Harris and Head, about on par with Handscomb.One or two good Shield seasons doesn't elevate you to a level above. Adam Voges has a better record overall and averaged 100+ for a full Shield season. Marsh averages 50 once and people lose their minds. If you look at Marsh's record and peak in Shield cricket he's about at the level of Joe Burns. He's no Hussey. Hodge, Katich etc. nor is he well ahead of his contemporaries.
Passed 50 for the first time in 14 innings. Real classy player, 8 scores below 10 including 2 ducks, 1 golden. Looks like he's scored his half-century of this series.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings
It’s been three seasons at least. No one is saying he’s in the Hussey or Katich mould, but he’s at the front of the queue. Sucks to be Australian cricket at the moment but here we are. His Shield record is clearly above the likes of Finch, Harris and Head, about on par with Handscomb.
Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.Is that the same Handscomb who was dropped from the test side averaging 45+?
2018/19 3 matches, 443 @ 88.6 (Handscomb 361 @ 45.1)
2017/18 4 matches, 304 @ 38 (Handscomb 271 @ 38.7)
2016/17 1 match, 183 @ 91.5 (Handscomb 410 @ 68.3)
2015/16, 6 matches, 516 @ 46.9 (Handscomb 784 @ 43.5)
I'm not Handscomb's #1 fan but the fascination with Marsh (who will be 36 next year) has become weird. He's not some guy that is getting a run now because the cupboard is bare, he's been getting a run for 8 years.
India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.
India have the best pace attack in the world? Please.India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.
Australia, South Africa and England are all better.India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.
Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.