Shaun Marsh

[Carbine Chaos]

He could’ve won us this Test, but he failed, predictably.

As did the other 10 players.

Piss off.

Reported for abuse. Enjoy your ban.

 

[The Swans Blog]

As did the other 10 players.

Reported for abuse. Enjoy your ban.

Will do.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Will do.

Reported for mind games. Can see it being extended now.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Reported for mind games. Can see it being extended now.

Where's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Where's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.

Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support now and then.

To be fair I used to treat Neser in a similar way, but I’m trying to get better.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Where's the cheer command or +1 button? I see this as being a Shaun Marsh debate, and you personally have a man crush.

Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support, and

To be fair I used to treat Neser in a similar way, but I’m trying to get better.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Tbh mate I see it as being more for balance. I did the same with Watson. While he didn’t fulfill his potential, which frustrated everyone, I wasn’t a huge fan of the vitriol he copped from the public. I don’t think it’s unhealthy he gets a dose of support now and then.

To be fair I used to treat Neser in a similar way, but I’m trying to get better.

Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.

Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.

I’ll just finish this by saying that nobody is more disappointed than me how Marsh’s career has panned our. On talent alone he should have played 100 Tests and averaged 45+. It’s overly simplistic to label him a crab and move on like most on here seem to. But he’s definitely underperformed.

Does that mean he should be out straight away? Not in my mind. The alternatives are no better.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.

I’ll just finish this by saying that nobody is more disappointed than me how Marsh’s career has panned our. On talent alone he should have played 100 Tests and averaged 45+. It’s overly simplistic to label him a crab and move on like most on here seem to. But he’s definitely underperformed.

Does that mean he should be out straight away? Not in my mind. The alternatives are no better.

He's hit a century in the first innings after each recall. Then he bats like a crab. Agree that he's not necessarily a crab, but he does hold one of Australia's least wanted record in more than 130 years of cricket - consecutive single figure scores.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Unfortunately for him he'll continue to be under pressure to make runs.

Poor bloke.

 

[Woody15]

Yep. But I just feel the hatred hurled at them by the public simply adds to the pressure they feel. I’m just trying to alleviate that somewhat.

I’ll just finish this by saying that nobody is more disappointed than me how Marsh’s career has panned our. On talent alone he should have played 100 Tests and averaged 45+. It’s overly simplistic to label him a crab and move on like most on here seem to. But he’s definitely underperformed.

Does that mean he should be out straight away? Not in my mind. The alternatives are no better.

I agree. The hatred is quite unbelievable. Even yesterday, people didn't want Marsh to do well because it would mean he keeps his place, but wanted the team to win? Strange.

Even though he was terrible through the Pakistan series, he scored 80, 98, 22 (ODI), 106 (ODI), 21, 163*, 81, 0 before the first test when his spot was up for grabs. Not sure anyone else scored like that domestically? Maybe Wade? I had no problem in Marsh being selected for the first test of this series.

Its more an indictment on the state of our domestic comp that no one is really banging down the door putting pressure on the team.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Watson was the ultimate frustration. Could destroy teams on his day, but that was so infrequent, or would get himself out like a numpty, like that run-out with Katich.

When he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.

 

[Hamingja]

One or two good Shield seasons doesn't elevate you to a level above. Adam Voges has a better record overall and averaged 100+ for a full Shield season. Marsh averages 50 once and people lose their minds. If you look at Marsh's record and peak in Shield cricket he's about at the level of Joe Burns. He's no Hussey. Hodge, Katich etc. nor is he well ahead of his contemporaries.

His recent shield form is well ahead of his contemporaries. Comfortably better record than Finch and Head for starters.

 

[The Swans Blog]

When he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.

It was a bad run, no call. But there's heaps of occasions he just flat out panicked and chucked his wicket away in the 90s

 

[Demosthenes]

When he got out in the 90s? I just watched that clip last night and Katich sold him up the river.

Admittedly it's been a while since I watched the footage, but I seem to recall that the run was Katich's call.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Admittedly it's been a while since I watched the footage, but I seem to recall that the run was Katich's call.

Played it behind point and started for the run. Both would've made it comfortably. Poor old Watto.

 

[JackOutback]

One or two good Shield seasons doesn't elevate you to a level above. Adam Voges has a better record overall and averaged 100+ for a full Shield season. Marsh averages 50 once and people lose their minds. If you look at Marsh's record and peak in Shield cricket he's about at the level of Joe Burns. He's no Hussey. Hodge, Katich etc. nor is he well ahead of his contemporaries.

It’s been three seasons at least. No one is saying he’s in the Hussey or Katich mould, but he’s at the front of the queue. Sucks to be Australian cricket at the moment but here we are. His Shield record is clearly above the likes of Finch, Harris and Head, about on par with Handscomb.

 

[Ok Boomer]

I look back at Shane Watson a lot more favourably now that he is gone. I think a lot of other people do too.

Mitch Marsh isn't even close.

 

[Power Raid]

Passed 50 for the first time in 14 innings. Real classy player, 8 scores below 10 including 2 ducks, 1 golden. Looks like he's scored his half-century of this series.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

should be safe for the rest of the summer and the next

 

[Scotland]

It’s been three seasons at least. No one is saying he’s in the Hussey or Katich mould, but he’s at the front of the queue. Sucks to be Australian cricket at the moment but here we are. His Shield record is clearly above the likes of Finch, Harris and Head, about on par with Handscomb.

Is that the same Handscomb who was dropped from the test side averaging 45+?

2018/19 3 matches, 443 @ 88.6 (Handscomb 361 @ 45.1)
2017/18 4 matches, 304 @ 38 (Handscomb 271 @ 38.7)
2016/17 1 match, 183 @ 91.5 (Handscomb 410 @ 68.3)
2015/16, 6 matches, 516 @ 46.9 (Handscomb 784 @ 43.5)

I'm not Handscomb's #1 fan but the fascination with Marsh (who will be 36 next year) has become weird. He's not some guy that is getting a run now because the cupboard is bare, he's been getting a run for 8 years.

 

[Kram]

Is that the same Handscomb who was dropped from the test side averaging 45+?

2018/19 3 matches, 443 @ 88.6 (Handscomb 361 @ 45.1)
2017/18 4 matches, 304 @ 38 (Handscomb 271 @ 38.7)
2016/17 1 match, 183 @ 91.5 (Handscomb 410 @ 68.3)
2015/16, 6 matches, 516 @ 46.9 (Handscomb 784 @ 43.5)

I'm not Handscomb's #1 fan but the fascination with Marsh (who will be 36 next year) has become weird. He's not some guy that is getting a run now because the cupboard is bare, he's been getting a run for 8 years.

Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.

India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.

 

[Kram]

India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.

India have the best pace attack in the world? Please.

 

[eth-dog]

India have one of the best bowling attacks in the world, if not the best.

Australia, South Africa and England are all better.

 

[Scotland]

Forget any stats just look at Handscomb bat for 5 minutes against pace bowling, he's awful. Might work against spin, second rate shield quicks or when Pakistan came over and bowled rubbish to him but England showed what he's like against anyone decent. Even India's mediocre bowlers just showed him up.

Like I said, not his biggest fan.

But you could just as easily look at Marsh bat in any of the 26 times in 63 innings he hasn't cracked double figures. Doesn't really matter who is bowling, looks like a ring in.