Sheffield Shield Final: Victoria v New South Wales @ Junction Oval

Who wins the Sheffield Shield

  • Victoria outright win

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • New South Wales outright win

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Victoria on bonus points

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • New South on bonus points

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .

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Sheffield Shield Final: Victoria v New South Wales @ Junction Oval
Thursday 28th March 2019 - Monday 1st April 2019


CA scorecard: https://live.cricket.com.au/match/2...-blues-jlt-sheffield-shield-2018-19/scorecard

Position

Team

Matches

Wins

Draws

Losses

Bat Bonus Points

Bowl Bonus Points

Total Points

1

Victoria

10

6

3

1

9.78

9.20

57.98

2

New South Wales

10

5

3

2

5.62

8.10

46.72

3

Western Australia

10

5

2

3

4.80

7.10

43.90

4

Queensland

10

3

2

5

3.72

8.10

31.82

5

Tasmania

10

3

2

4

3.49

8.10

30.59

6

South Australia

10

0

4

6

4.41

8.00

16.41


Note: Tasmania docked 1 point for slow over rate


Reminder: The new rules in place for the final state that whichever team has more bonus points will win the Shield if the match is a draw.

New South Wales's 2 losses this season have been both to the Vics.
Round 2
Victoria 9/445 (dec) (M.Harris 250*, T.Copeland 3/74)
defeated
New South Wales 159 (K.Patterson 63, C.Tremain 5/47) and 179 (N.Larkin 53, S.Boland 6/49)
by an innings and 107 runs

Round 9
New South Wales 135 (D.Hughes 45, J.Holland 5/31) and 102 (P.Nevill 26*, J.Pattinson 5/25)
lost to
Victoria 106 (N.Maddinson 24, H.Conway 5/14) and 194 (M.Short 50, H.Conway 4/50)
by 63 runs

VIC XIV
  • 29. Travis DEAN (c)
  • 24. Scott BOLAND
  • 17. Andrew FEKETE
  • 36. Seb GOTCH (+)
  • 7. Sam HARPER (+)
  • 14. Marcus HARRIS
  • 18. Jon HOLLAND
  • 19. James PATTINSON
  • 10. Will PUCOVSKI
  • 2. Matt SHORT
  • 20. Peter SIDDLE
  • 99. Chris TREMAIN
  • 22. Eamonn VINES
  • 9. Cameron WHITE
In: Boland, Harper, Vines, White
Out: Nic MADDINSON (fractured thumb)

Boland who was rested should come in for Fekete and White will replace Maddinson. However will the Vics stick with the 5 bowlers or will they opt for another batsman in Vines or Harper. Under the old rules the extra batter might have made more sense, but an extra bowler seems more valuable with each 1st innings NSW wicket before 100 overs worth 0.1 bonus points


NSW XIII
  • 20. Peter NEVILL (c)(+)
  • 77. Sean ABBOTT
  • 14. Nick BERTUS
  • 5. Harry CONWAY
  • 9. Trent COPELAND
  • 18. Jack EDWARDS
  • 21. Moises HENRIQUES
  • 3. Daniel HUGHES
  • 36. Nick LARKIN
  • 72. Stephen O'KEEFE
  • 17. Kurtis PATTERSON
  • 23. Jason SANGHA
  • 76. Greg WEST
In: Nevill, O'Keefe, West
Out: Baxter HOLT

With Nevill and O'Keefe missing the last game, the Blues opted for the extra batsman in Bertus but that left the side quite unbalanced in the bowling department. It didn't matter too much as Copeland (1st innings) and Abbott (2nd innings) stepped up. Nevill replaces Holt and O'Keefe is a definite in so the selectors will have to drop one of Bertus, Sangha, or Edwards. The latter 2 have struggled having not scored 50 in the last past 7 games but their ability to bowl might be handy.

Weather
  • Thursday
    13-26 - Mostly sunny.
  • Friday
    15-23 - Mostly sunny morning. Medium (60%) chance of showers, most likely in the afternoon and evening.
  • Saturday
    11-15 - Partly cloudy. Medium (50%) chance of showers.
  • Sunday
    11-17 - Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers.
  • Monday
    12-17 - Cloudy. Slight (30%) chance of a shower.
 

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I think they're going to go with:

Dean (c)
Harris
Pucovski
Gotch
White
Short
Harper (+)
Pattinson
Tremain
Boland
Holland

Siddle is very unlucky but I think Gotch was promoted ahead of Short for a reason, which was to see how he handled being in the top 4, and he made a nice 60-odd s well as guiding us home in the second dig, even though most of the hard work had been done. Pattinson, Tremain and Boland are a potent trio, and Siddle is dreadfully unlucky to miss out if it were me selecting the side.

Hughes
Larkin
Patterson
Henriques
Sangha
Nevill (c, +)
Edwards
O'Keefe
Copeland
Abbott
Conway

They really need a spinner to win at the Junction, and O'Keefe is a very good one. Plus with Edwards/Henriques it means they have 5 seamers.
 

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Five day match and considering how the NSW batsmen struggled against the Vic's during the regular season hopefully this bonus point rubbish won't come into it. If NSW are awarded the title for having a slightly better first half in the final it will be fitting the trophy presentation will be on April Fool's Day.
 

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#13
i dont disagree with that.

THough I do wonder if NSW were the home team would they support and applaud the new format
lol, of course not!

Expect the out of form NSW batsmen to cash in and make hundreds as Victoria throws away a shield title and everyone talks up how awesome the new rules are

Victorias batting lineup is alright, but some great bowling has meant their regular collapses don't get exposed. There are ? over nearly every member of the team in terms of consistency or going on with the job.
 

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Five day match and considering how the NSW batsmen struggled against the Vic's during the regular season hopefully this bonus point rubbish won't come into it. If NSW are awarded the title for having a slightly better first half in the final it will be fitting the trophy presentation will be on April Fool's Day.
The only thing that's changed is now the away team can play for a draw. To think if Vic is 3/299 after 100 overs and NSW get to 3/300 then they will just dig in and bat time and 'win' the Shield having had no intention of winning the game.

Whilst the draws may be an issue, a lot of the time that's more due to 1 team being so dominant their batsmen have cashed in, sometimes the 2nd placed team has scraped in and don't have the talent to force a win. Others are because the away team chooses to bat first and makes a big score putting the game out of reach for the home team so of course they batted for the draw. That was poor play by the away side.

Victoria showed you can win a Shield title away from home, hell they won 3 in a row and none were played in Victoria!!!
 

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There have been 36 Shield finals played since the idea was introduced in 1982/83. Of those games, 10 were drawn and 26 were played to a finish. 20 matches have been won by the home team and 6 by away sides. NSW has won the Shield away from home three times - at Perth in 1982/83 and at Brisbane in 2002/03 and 2004/05. The Vics have done it once - at Glenelg in 2015/16.

Victoria has hosted the final six times and has won the Shield on all six occasions. That resulted from three wins and three draws. This includes the two finals played at interstate ‘neutral’ venues where the Vics were only nominally the home side. NSW has hosted the final on seven occasions and has won the Shield every time with five wins and two draws.

Sheffield Shield finals contested, 1982/83 to 2018/19:

Qld 21
NSW 15
Vic 13
WA 12
Tas 8
SA 5

Sheffield Shield finals won, 1982/83 to 2017/18:

NSW 8
Qld 7
WA 5
Vic 4
Tas 2
SA 0

South Australia’s only Shield win since the introduction of the final came in 1995/96 when it drew with WA at the Adelaide Oval.

Wooden spoons since Tasmania joined the competition in 1977/78:

Tas 14
SA 13
Vic 8
NSW 5
Qld 2
WA 0

Western Australia has never won the wooden spoon in the six-team competition, and last finished on the bottom of the Shield table in 1963/64. That represents 55 years without a bottom-placing. Quite an achievement in a five and six team competition. In contrast, South Australia has taken 12 of the last 23 wooden spoons since taking the title in 1995/96. That is more wooden spoons than all of the other teams in the competition combined during that period.
 

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I can see the team batting second declaring earlier than expected in their first innings if they are ahead on bonus points.
 

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Game should've been played 2 or so weeks ago. Better chance of weather being alright and the comp should be wrapped up prior to AFL season started if not max a week into the AFL fixture
 

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Game should've been played 2 or so weeks ago. Better chance of weather being alright and the comp should be wrapped up prior to AFL season started if not max a week into the AFL fixture
Back in the day this would have been rd1 of the AFL, but they keep stretching it out

But this would definitely be the latest the Shield final has been played, obviously due to the increased BBL
 

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I have an RDO on Day 5, so I'll try get done if a result looks likely. Going to be an interesting final, pressure on us to get the job done as we've beaten NSW twice this season.
 

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The only thing that's changed is now the away team can play for a draw. To think if Vic is 3/299 after 100 overs and NSW get to 3/300 then they will just dig in and bat time and 'win' the Shield having had no intention of winning the game.

Whilst the draws may be an issue, a lot of the time that's more due to 1 team being so dominant their batsmen have cashed in, sometimes the 2nd placed team has scraped in and don't have the talent to force a win. Others are because the away team chooses to bat first and makes a big score putting the game out of reach for the home team so of course they batted for the draw. That was poor play by the away side.

Victoria showed you can win a Shield title away from home, hell they won 3 in a row and none were played in Victoria!!!
Got to look at it as encouragement to produce a result pitch rather than an absolute road. Then batting and bowling points don't matter (well unless it rains for two days).
 

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???

If they are behind you mean? If they are ahead they'll keep batting because they have 1 hand on the Shield already
By that I mean if the bonus points are close towards the end of the first innings the batting team might declare whilst they are marginally in front to avoid coughing up cheap tail end wickets.
 
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