Opinion Should Showdown 60 in round 16 this year be a standalone fixture?

[crowman2]

It is ok if the game is behind a paywall - but I think if it a stand alone Friday night broadcast it is free to air.

St Kilda and Carlton may have 100 year plus relationship, but it is not a rivalry and is nothing like the Carlton/Collingwood, Essendon/Hawthorn, Port Adelaide/Adelaide, or St Kilda/Northern Academy Concession relationships. It's a fizzier of an event. The Western Bulldogs/GWS is even shorter, but a more meaningful rivalry.

There are some good rivalries in sport Adelaide v port Adelaide is unique probably as there is a fair bit of hate there the other AFL rivalry although long in tenure don’t seem to have that

If you could liken it to any other the Celtic v Rangers is the one probs not as much hatred as that one but along those lines

 

[WhyAmIHere]

There are some good rivalries in sport Adelaide v port Adelaide is unique probably as there is a fair bit of hate there the other AFL rivalry although long in tenure don’t seem to have that

If you could liken it to any other the Celtic v Rangers is the one probs not as much hatred as that one but along those lines

I think it great for footy and provides a template on spite.

The battle of the bridge, Q-cup, and expansion cups are starting to have the same feel. I think it stems from competitively fishing in the same waters. Sydney and West Coast when they were up and about was the gentlemanly version of this.

It’s just another game, but it’s not like other games if you know what I mean.

 

[00Stinger]

should always be a stand alone game in prime time

 

[joe444]

The ultimate SA chip-on-shoulder-little-brother-syndrome issue.

"We hate you, we have conspiracy theories about you, pweeeeeeeeease watch us play each other."

 

[crowman2]

The ultimate SA chip-on-shoulder-little-brother-syndrome issue.

"We hate you, we have conspiracy theories about you, pweeeeeeeeease watch us play each other."

It’s a little bit more than that

Like I said before it has a lot of hatred not a bad thing ask the Celtic and rangers fans about their rivalry and hatred that is being mild calling theirs hatred its despise for each other

It’s probably hard for you to understand your dislike for a team probs comes from a player or a few bad loses but club rivalry is far more than that for Adelaide fans and port fans

 

[soafraid]

The ultimate SA chip-on-shoulder-little-brother-syndrome issue.

"We hate you, we have conspiracy theories about you, pweeeeeeeeease watch us play each other."

Amazing take. Couldn't be that it's pretty unanimously viewed as the best rivalry, and has consistently produced more "classics" than any other matchup over the past 20 years, and people want to watch it?

 

[Ratboys]

If you could liken it to any other the Celtic v Rangers is the one probs not as much hatred as that one but along those lines

Loses the pizzazz when a few minutes into the match you remember players who end up in Glasgow aren't that great

 

[BallaratBulldog]

should always be a stand alone game in prime time

I remember Channel 10 used to have it FTA in vic on Saturday night.

 

[Cleavy]

Genuine question is it a contractural obligation to have a VIC team playing in prime time slots to show in Victoria? I think it’s more to do with the TV rights holders than the AFL tbh.

Are VIC fans that insulated that they wouldn’t watch a Showdown/Derby/Bris Vs Swans prime time game because it didn’t have a VIC team? Seems incredibly weird from the outside.

maybe it's the networks (particularly Ch7 Melb) thinking this?

 

[joe444]

Amazing take. Couldn't be that it's pretty unanimously viewed as the best rivalry, and has consistently produced more "classics" than any other matchup over the past 20 years, and people want to watch it?

Not sure. It seems more to me like SA fans channeling some "why don't they respect us" trauma.

Even here there is this weird vibe of South Australians trying to convince others how awesome and intense it is. Great. You get two a year. It's on TV if you want to look at it. Precisely what do you want from the rest of us? To be forced to watch it?

I can only speak for myself, but unless there's something meaningful at stake, I couldn't care less about whether I am given the maximum possible opportunity to watch two interstate teams I don't follow play each other.

 

[Dregen Hellacopter]

Shouldn't even be a question

I am so missed off at the AFL for hiding the showdown. We took the kids to Gather Round three weeks ago and watched our first games at the Adelaide Oval. Just when we have those memories fresh in our minds, they miss the opportunity to reinforce it. Malinauskis should be on the phone

 

[joe444]

Amazing take. Couldn't be that it's pretty unanimously viewed as the best rivalry, and has consistently produced more "classics" than any other matchup over the past 20 years, and people want to watch it?

Huh? What are we smoking here?

Margins since 2019: 20, 57, 49, 4, 56, 31, 47, 30, 22, 5, 98, and last night.

It's actually a pretty vanilla set of results.

Hawthorn/Geelong on the other hand ...

 

[Mattrox]

Even if those games are behind a paywall?

St kilda and Carlton have history going back to 1873. That's 5x as long as Port Adelaide and Adelaide.

How many of those from 1873 actually care any more?

 

[Underarm]

How many of those from 1873 actually care any more?

if we restrict it to game in living memory its still 3.5x the history of the showdown

 

[parano1a]

I can't see it happening personally.
Seven will go for:
Thursday: Brisbane v Sydney
Friday: Collingwood v Richmond

 

[Mattrox]

if we restrict it to game in living memory its still 3.5x the history of the showdown

All that time to develop a proper cross town rivalry and failed.....

You are answering your own question.

 

[KanesBurner]

maybe it's the networks (particularly Ch7 Melb) thinking this?

I assume it’d have to be because the other option is VIC fans only watch VIC clubs which I couldn’t imagine is true.

 

[Cleavy]

I assume it’d have to be because the other option is VIC fans only watch VIC clubs which I couldn’t imagine is true.

I would say more interest where they is 1 Vic club VS a completely neutral game (no Vic clubs, ignoring past Vic related histories of Swans/Lions for the sake of this point)

 

[Billy ray]

even the expansion cup got a standalone timeslot last night!

 

[joe444]

Just to clarify, this event that apparently "always delivers" and has "classic after classic" has, in the past 20 years, delivered:

11 games out of 39 where the margin was over 50 points.

Have at it. Go for it. Put it in a standalone timeslot and I will watch it with more enthusiasm than anything involving Carlton or Essendon.

But why on earth Matthew Nicks

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is raising it (mentioning Victorians specifically) in his presser? That's little bro syndrome right there.

 

[010203]

As channel 7 have had 5 nationally broadcast games on the Easter weekend for the last two years, here's an idea:

Holy Thursday: Brisbane vs Collingwood

Good Friday: North Melbourne vs Carlton

Easter Sunday afternoon: Western Bulldogs vs Essendon (an Easter Sunday fixture for the last 2 years)

Easter Sunday night: Adelaide vs Port Adelaide

Easter Monday: Hawthorn vs Geelong