Should we experiment with Moore as a back-man?

Where would you play Darcy?

  • KPF/RUCK

  • KPD

  • Swingman. 50/50.


Results are only viewable after voting.

sr36

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 20, 2009
11,757
15,367
Vietnam
AFL Club
Collingwood
I’d just started to feel positive about Buckley next year (and it took a lot of effort), and now we pretty much get confirmation that Darcy’s “trial” down back is pretty much a locked in plan.
Gotta hope that Bucks was talking a bit of crap to make schade feel better about the delisting.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

DraftBalta

league leaders for flags won without cheating
Oct 16, 2017
1,399
1,057
In my pants
AFL Club
Collingwood
Didn't we send Cloke to CHB for a year when he was young? or was that Anthony Rocca?
 

Apex36

Brownlow Medallist
Mar 26, 2014
25,929
46,422
AFL Club
Collingwood
Gotta hope that Bucks was talking a bit of crap to make schade feel better about the delisting.
Christ I hope so. Honestly, our defence was really good with Dunn and Goldsack this year. With McLarty developing we can draft another key defender at 38 and phase the two older guys out over the next couple of years. I get that it’s good for Moore to be flexible, but I just hope his development as a forward doesn’t get compromised.
 

pinko77

Debutant
May 28, 2013
148
95
AFL Club
Collingwood
i think it will end up being a good move i like it
he will be good down back with reid howe dunn goldsack berg
improves the backline midfield looks good just need to improve the forwards a bit lynch 2019
 

jmac70

Premium Gold
Apr 10, 2010
33,830
34,862
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
North Footscray Devils
i think it will end up being a good move i like it
he will be good down back with reid howe dunn goldsack berg
improves the backline midfield looks good just need to improve the forwards a bit lynch 2019
Why will he be good down back?
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

jmac70

Premium Gold
Apr 10, 2010
33,830
34,862
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
North Footscray Devils
i think he will have good support down back unlike when he plays forward and will build confidence looks like a good defender in the making for me
I’m not seeing that at all. I’d rather he go back to the VFL for an extended period and learn to be the CHF we recruited. It’s time for him to pull his finger out.
 

3rdMan

Team Captain
Sep 27, 2008
324
335
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
I’d just started to feel positive about Buckley next year (and it took a lot of effort), and now we pretty much get confirmation that Darcy’s “trial” down back is pretty much a locked in plan.
I'm happy with the move if that's what we're going with. It tells me that we have a forward option lined up. Either someone in the draft who will be ready to produce in the short term (only Fogarty makes some sense there). Or, much more likely, a KPF by trade or FA next year.

But, Schade's comments are hardly confirmation. He could possibly have been reading too much into Moore being listed as a defensive option. At the very least, Moore should be (and was late) played both forward and back. And if we got an injury to a KPD, Moore can move to defence instead of playing someone like Schade who's not really up to it.

Moore's major asset will, going forward, be his flexibility. Ruck, forward, defence, probably wing. He's going to be wasted in one fixed position. Flexibility is massive in the modern game. It means we don't need to keep a long list of dud back up talls. Hence goodbye Schade.
 

Peter Sidorkiewicz

Premiership Player
Oct 2, 2004
4,569
2,178
Melbourne
AFL Club
Collingwood
We finally find the perfect second ruck after going through a revolving door through rejects and we want to move down back. Can't I go into a seeing where where I don't see problems till at least the pre sarson matches.
If Moore goes back then Cox is probably a walk up starter to be the 2nd ruckman.

So our key forwards for next year are Reid + Cox.
 

pinko77

Debutant
May 28, 2013
148
95
AFL Club
Collingwood
I’m not seeing that at all. I’d rather he go back to the VFL for an extended period and learn to be the CHF we recruited. It’s time for him to pull his finger out.
i hope he does turn out to be a gun CHF but i dont mind seeing what he can do down back for awhile
also depends what we draft this year
 

DraftBalta

league leaders for flags won without cheating
Oct 16, 2017
1,399
1,057
In my pants
AFL Club
Collingwood
If Moore goes back then Cox is probably a walk up starter to be the 2nd ruckman.

So our key forwards for next year are Reid + Cox.
Well when you say it like that... we're screwed

Moore is definitely going back, Schade confirmed one of the reasons Bucks gave for letting him go was Darce going back
 
Last edited:

ClaytonM

Premiership Player
Jan 20, 2013
3,319
4,835
Brisbane
AFL Club
Collingwood
If it ends up that we pick up Lynch next year this could be a master stroke. Moore at one end and Lynch at the other sounds pretty good.

Yes people always value forwards over backs, but in the modern game your defence is where everything starts.

To me it doesn’t matter where Moore plays. Just hoping it is at an elite level. Elite forward or elite back. I’ll take either.
 
Last edited:

sr36

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 20, 2009
11,757
15,367
Vietnam
AFL Club
Collingwood
I’m not seeing that at all. I’d rather he go back to the VFL for an extended period and learn to be the CHF we recruited. It’s time for him to pull his finger out.
After a horrible first month, I thought he had a good 2017. A lack of game sense is an issue. If the plan is a stint in defence to improve his game sense and learn better leading patterns - great. If the plan is for him to play as a full time defender, I don't like it. He's not instinctual enough to know when to stick to his man and when to peel off. I suspect that as a defender, he will be a dour stopper.
 

Carringbush2010

Premiership Player
Jun 6, 2016
4,829
2,751
Perth
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Pines Football Club
Just a couple of points that no one has spent any time on:
  • Remember our poor delivery and disposal I50 would have undoubtedly had an effect on his "game sense"
  • He is only 21 and I am tipping the development side of the club will improve hence the coaching appointments
On that I'm thinking it will be an "experiment" whereby we get the right "mix" so it's probably not going to be a CHF only season because of course we've got to take into account opposition/venue/ conditions etc.
 

mike123

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 13, 2013
27,002
23,307
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Juventus
If Moore goes back then Cox is probably a walk up starter to be the 2nd ruckman.

So our key forwards for next year are Reid + Cox.
I still have doubts on whether Cox can be an effective forward, Reid's body and if the lack of athletism from the pair will hold up.
 

Scodog10

Brownlow Medallist
Jul 25, 2008
17,421
24,756
The Linc
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Oakland Raiders
If it ends up that we pick up Lynch next year this could be a master stroke. Moore at one end and Lynch at the other sounds pretty good.

Yes people always value forwards over backs, but in the modern game your defence is where everything starts.

To me it doesn’t matter where Moore plays. Just hoping it is at an elite level. Elite forward or elite back. I’ll take either.
I’m Switzerland on this one until we see a bit more of it, but for mine you’re right. To me it strongly suggests that we have another legitimate long term forward option in mind.

I think his ball use can make him a legitimate difference maker down back if he can flick the switch from dour spoil first to flying for grabs! He has the traits to be an elite defender which is more important than an elite forward in modern footy, IMO, but we need the development to be bang on.
 

Saintly Viewed

bear time
Aug 10, 2015
44,980
35,981
AFL Club
Collingwood
After a horrible first month, I thought he had a good 2017. A lack of game sense is an issue. If the plan is a stint in defence to improve his game sense and learn better leading patterns - great. If the plan is for him to play as a full time defender, I don't like it. He's not instinctual enough to know when to stick to his man and when to peel off. I suspect that as a defender, he will be a dour stopper.
Just a question, how is a guy as athletic as Moore with such a strong spring and dash ever be dour?
Just don't think he's that type of player.
 

Kings_Gambit

Senior List
Sep 6, 2017
171
258
AFL Club
Collingwood
I like it. Darcy will get more development. We have Reid and the resting Cox or Grundy. We know Darcy can deliver the ball.
 

Carringbush2010

Premiership Player
Jun 6, 2016
4,829
2,751
Perth
AFL Club
Collingwood
Other Teams
Pines Football Club
I think his ball use can make him a legitimate difference maker down back if he can flick the switch from dour spoil first to flying for grabs! He has the traits to be an elite defender which is more important than an elite forward in modern footy, IMO, but we need the development to be bang on.
You know me Scodog, what's my favourite term right now? And if we get it right it may be more than Moore to get excited about!
 
Top Bottom