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No-one at the Club feels like addressing 60,000 members on the actions they're taking following the biggest ever showdown thrashing?

Thought not...
Best to not react let ot blow over true believers
 
Matthew Nicks on 360 tonight said that the Crows "had [their] foot on the throat the entire day".

Can anyone remember the last time we did that?

We've had the occasional blow-out win in recent years - Sydney in R22 2024, Carlton R22 2021, etc. - but I can't remember us winning a game in anything like the commanding fashion that Adelaide did on Saturday.

Against Brisbane (114 points) and Carlton (103 points) in 2014.

Yep, 11 years ago.
 

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I would have sacked him after 2005, as I’ve already stated. So, for me, it’s obvious that the 2007 GF loss was a sackable offense.

In my view, Choco was already “playing with House money” for 2 seasons.
And I'll second that, probably going right back to 2000 as when he should have been thrown out. More to the point, he shouldn't have even been elevated to the job in the first place - Cahill should have been left alone to finish the work he started, not been a sacrificial lamb as a result of the petulant tantrum of another underperforming showboater who Cahill knew was never going to be good enough to build a team around, but whom Williams' helmet was regularly buffed by, ensuring he got his way and delaying success by another 5 years, not to mention being an overrated, over publicised passenger in all but ONE season. Yes, you know who I mean. Like it or not, as much as I might agree that Hinkley might be a fraud and not a coaches bootlace at this level, it's just groundhog day. Seen it all before, same beltings, same lack of effort, guts and pride in the jumper, same destruction of players' careers by not playing them to their strengths etc etc ad nauseam ad infinitum. Anyone who can't see direct parallels between this and 1999-2003 and perhaps to greater emphasis, 2005-2010, is just delusional. It really is sad to see such a proud, traditional club sink to this level.
 
Matthew Nicks on 360 tonight said that the Crows "had [their] foot on the throat the entire day".

Can anyone remember the last time we did that?

We've had the occasional blow-out win in recent years - Sydney in R22 2024, Carlton R22 2021, etc. - but I can't remember us winning a game in anything like the commanding fashion that Adelaide did on Saturday.

You honestly don't think our win over Sydney last year wasn't utter domination?

We won by 112 points, held them goalless until late in the second quarter and won 22.16 to 5.6.

It's a bit like saying apart from the games we utterly dominated, who can remember games we utterly dominated? What have the Romans ever done for us?
 
Things have gone very quiet re Tredders. I thank him wholeheartedly for caring enuf about our club to put his football reputation on the line. Good call Tredders.

To all the other previous PA players - you should be ashamed of yourselves.
He should have been allowed to scuttle off to Carlton in 1998 like he wanted and really put his reputation on the line. Would have been found out a lot sooner and with a lot less pain to Port.
 
No-one at the Club feels like addressing 60,000 members on the actions they're taking following the biggest ever showdown thrashing?

Thought not...
Shows how piss weak the club is

Has Ken ever spoken after ever heavy loss.. I can only recall silence.

I hope he’s been told to pack up his caravan and don’t bother coming back after the geelong game
 

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You know what? Ginevar can actually get ****ed. The tme to say this stuff was years ago. He kept quiet. Now that Hinkley is out the door he dares say something? He's safe to say it? Well mate, its years too late. The horse bolted a long time ago and you kept quiet. We know what you thought privately, but you were too spineless to say it publicly. Weak as Piss. You are as complicit as anybody.
He and all the other Port greats, pathetic !
 
Crows claim 4 of the top 5 biggest wins.
The two biggest wins are both against Hinkley with two different coaches, Nicks and Pyke.

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So much for the ongoing mythology that Port ‘treat Showdowns like their Grand Final’.

Approach every single one with mittens pinned our jackets and pants ready to be p¡ssed, and even when things are going well our way we refuse to step on their necks like they do us.
 
Shooting fish in a barrel is no challenge, unless of course, you can't shoot straight to save yourself. Enough said.

nana changing GIF
 
You honestly don't think our win over Sydney last year wasn't utter domination?

At the risk of sounding like Hinkley in his presser after the game (saying nobody should question our workrate, but also that our effort was the reason we lost): it was obviously dominant, but I don't remember it feeling relentless. I'm sure the whole game felt relentless to Sydney fans, but I remember feeling like we still eased off in the second half.

Perhaps it's just bias (recency, negativity, etc.), or perhaps a decade of Hinkley-inspired fatalism means I'm not able to be objective about the quality of our H&A performances (because I/we all know they don't really matter when we can't win a prelim)?

So much for the ongoing mythology that Port ‘treat Showdowns like their Grand Final’.

We've treated some of them like the 2007 GF.
 
And I'll second that, probably going right back to 2000 as when he should have been thrown out. More to the point, he shouldn't have even been elevated to the job in the first place - Cahill should have been left alone to finish the work he started, not been a sacrificial lamb as a result of the petulant tantrum of another underperforming showboater who Cahill knew was never going to be good enough to build a team around, but whom Williams' helmet was regularly buffed by, ensuring he got his way and delaying success by another 5 years, not to mention being an overrated, over publicised passenger in all but ONE season. Yes, you know who I mean. Like it or not, as much as I might agree that Hinkley might be a fraud and not a coaches bootlace at this level, it's just groundhog day. Seen it all before, same beltings, same lack of effort, guts and pride in the jumper, same destruction of players' careers by not playing them to their strengths etc etc ad nauseam ad infinitum. Anyone who can't see direct parallels between this and 1999-2003 and perhaps to greater emphasis, 2005-2010, is just delusional. It really is sad to see such a proud, traditional club sink to this level.

I love the spirit, but that’s a bit too far for me.
 

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At the risk of sounding like Hinkley in his presser after the game (saying nobody should question our workrate, but also that our effort was the reason we lost): it was obviously dominant, but I don't remember it feeling relentless. I'm sure the whole game felt relentless to Sydney fans, but I remember feeling like we still eased off in the second half.

Perhaps it's just bias (recency, negativity, etc.), or perhaps a decade of Hinkley-inspired fatalism means I'm not able to be objective about the quality of our H&A performances (because I/we all know they don't really matter when we can't win a prelim)?



We've treated some of them like the 2007 GF.

We kicked the first 11 or 12 goals of that Sydney game and won the last quarter 5.7 to 2.2 All we we failed to do was kick straight right at the end. And the free kick count in that game was 13-13. If we had the favours the crows had from the umps we could have kicked 30 goals.

I agree we don't blow teams to smithereens too often, but you can't discount that game as complete domination from beginning to end.
 
Disappointed but not surprised that the club wheeled Carr out today, as usual when the heat is on Ken, Davies, Koch and Richardson are invisible
Was hoping to see a bit more anger/disappointment from him.
Most of it was the same bland stuff about injuries etc.
Not convinced he will be the answer at this stage (albeit he'll be better than Ken).
 

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