Game Day Showdown LIV

[Carmo]

It's like WWE for sure. Definitely manufactured outcomes happening. Remember Port's last game against Gold Coast last year? It was Boak's final game and the umpires didn't even try to hide what they were doing.

Umps are def manufacturing close games this year.

 

[Milo Cyrus]

Umps are def manufacturing close games this year.

This game is dead. Ripe for a rival league to spawn.
Although I fear we don't have a Kerry Packer with big enough balls to intervene.

 

[Crowtel]

It's like WWE for sure. Definitely manufactured outcomes happening. Remember Port's last game against Gold Coast last year? It was Boak's final game and the umpires didn't even try to hide what they were doing.

We would have hosted the Suns in the first final and maybe just maybe, straight into a prelim.

 

[n4sir]

This game is dead. Ripe for a rival league to spawn.
Although I fear we don't have a Kerry Packer with big enough balls to intervene.

The Saudis have pulled out of LIV and have a few billion to spend?

Then again, maybe not.

 

[BRL121]

If it's going to cost a goal, they should review it. How come the last touch rule can get a review and that doesn't?

I don't think they can review field ump decisions. Can you imagine the circus?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I don't think they can review field ump decisions. Can you imagine the circus?

Don't need to. Just review field ump decisions that impact goals. How is it different than the touch rule being reviewed?

 

[Bay62]

I’m late to this, it may have been mentioned, maybe I’m missing something, and it doesn’t really matter, so I apologise ahead of time…but anyway…

Why is this thread Showdown LIV - which is 54? It was 59, which is LIX

 

[Slime Roy]

An absolute embarrassment on every level.

From wherever you are on the planet.

 

[BRL121]

Don't need to. Just review field ump decisions that impact goals. How is it different than the touch rule being reviewed?

It's entirely different. The touch rule is purely a matter of physical fact, which can probably be improved by camera review in close cases. Push in the back is purely an umpire judgement call. You can't have the 5th umpire asserting his judgement view over the 4 on-field umpires. Christ, there's enough of that already with the routine very late calls by the 4th umpire on high-contact calls on diving flogs!

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It's entirely different. The touch rule is purely a matter of physical fact, which can probably be improved by camera review in close cases. Push in the back is purely an umpire judgement call. You can't have the 5th umpire asserting his judgement view over the 4 on-field umpires. Christ, there's enough of that already with the routine very late calls by the 4th umpire on high-contact calls on diving flogs!

Why can't you review just the calls that impact goals? How is it different? A push is a physical fact too.

 

[BRL121]

Why can't you review just the calls that impact goals? How is it different? A push is a physical fact too.

Well, if you bring that up, then we could have a 5th umpire overruling the ridiculous Butters "push in the back, I'll cannon into the fence", and take away his goal! Great! But, on second thoughts, I don't think that would be a good thing. How far back do you go?

We really need to get back to trying only to eliminate howlers. We need less intervention, not more.

p.s. A push is a physical fact, but they get paid on judgement as to the force. Umpire's views differ. Do you want accelerometers on the back of each player?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Well, if you bring that up, then we could have a 5th umpire overruling the ridiculous Butters "push in the back, I'll cannon into the fence", and take away his goal! Great! But, on second thoughts, I don't think that would be a good thing. How far back do you go?

We really need to get back to trying only to eliminate howlers. We need less intervention, not more.

p.s. A push is a physical fact, but they get paid on judgement as to the force. Umpire's views differ. Do you want accelerometers on the back of each player?

Nah we need more intervention. The umpires suck arse and should have as much responsibility stripped from them as possible.

I would argue that push in the back should be easier to review than half of the touch ball examples where you can't see shit.

 

[ams4crows]

Don't need to. Just review field ump decisions that impact goals. How is it different than the touch rule being reviewed?

It there's a clear throw to a player who kicks the goal that should be reviewed. You can replay over and over to see if a touch happens why can't you review to see if there was a legit disposal that lead to a goal.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Maybe they could have a system where each captain gets a certain amount of reviews per game eg. 2 each. Kind of like cricket. They keep it in reserve for real umpire howlers that cost them a goal.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

It there's a clear throw to a player who kicks the goal that should be reviewed. You can replay over and over to see if a touch happens why can't you review to see if there was a legit disposal that lead to a goal.

Should be leeway to do reviews if the game has already stopped too. The main knock is that reviews slow the game down.

 

[119others]

It there's a clear throw to a player who kicks the goal that should be reviewed. You can replay over and over to see if a touch happens why can't you review to see if there was a legit disposal that lead to a goal.

slippery slope. so many half throws/handballs that even with replays are hard to determine. ditto for touched marks, holding the balls etc

we are already using too much technology - and its increasingly creeping - we need to strip things back imo otherwise you could literally have 20-40 5th umpire reviews every game. and nobody wants that surely