Opinion Sidebottom is Overrated
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He's a lovely, long, pentrating kick when he chooses to kick long. Takes the short option far too often, almost Shane O'Bree-type numbers.
Cousin of Daicos
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Very important player to our side. So much so that teams started tagging him this year over Treloar and Pendlebury.
Over does it sometimes, but the good always outweighs the bad. I still reckon he has another level to go to.
Over does it sometimes, but the good always outweighs the bad. I still reckon he has another level to go to.
Context , look where he gets the ball. Its essentially almost in traffic. Not like hes making clearance kicks to packs off the HBF
In short , doesn't bother me if he has 1 clanger a match when hes so damaging for the rest of his possessions .
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In our top 3 best players. Is not over rated at all.
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He does stupid things at times which stop him from being an A+ grade player IMO.
ie: Poor kicking skills when no or limited pressure, Getting caught in the defensive 50 / holding the ball etc.
Poor decision making when kicking which have you like wtf?!?
Yes he can be classy, crafty at times, but again ..... those things above stop him from being an A+ Grade.
I almost sh*t bricks when commentators say "Oh Sidebottom is a great ball user"
Certainly not in the A+ grade of Pendlebury.
ie: Poor kicking skills when no or limited pressure, Getting caught in the defensive 50 / holding the ball etc.
Poor decision making when kicking which have you like wtf?!?
Yes he can be classy, crafty at times, but again ..... those things above stop him from being an A+ Grade.
I almost sh*t bricks when commentators say "Oh Sidebottom is a great ball user"
Certainly not in the A+ grade of Pendlebury.
In a word. NO
He is in our top 5. Just needs to use the ball a little better. Hitting targets more often.
Otherwise he is silk. Runs and carries the ball for us. No way over rated
Otherwise he is silk. Runs and carries the ball for us. No way over rated
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only over rated by people on here. in the top 2-5 in the club. best 2 way runner we have, and also we need him resting forward more
great reader of a loose ball to kick a goal we have
great reader of a loose ball to kick a goal we have
I think we can expect too much of a player sometimes. sidey is a gun, yes he has his flaws and can mess up a forward play or turn it over. from my view, he usually does this when he is trying to be overly creative. he's at his best when he takes it on himself and not tries to involve another player in his plan, when he's on he is very dangerous and can have the opposition on guard. major part of our teams fabric, just don't expect him to be a general
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This isn't serious, right? Someone's trolling.
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I'd agree if we didn't have 10 other inside mids in the side.
This. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure Sidey's apparent brain farts out. He isn't stupid - in fact he's one of the most creative and smartest players I've seen at Collingwood. The trouble is that he's thinking three or four steps ahead of the play and your average player at best can't think past the next step. He does a lot of great work in tight and runs both ways more than any other player on the team. Brad Sewell rates him as an "excellent player who does all the team things" - that's a fair recommendation from a player who has played in a culture that demands the team things be done at all times. Yes he misses the odd kick now and again - has anybody watched Dangerfield? Martin? even Mitchell misses some of his kicks. Sidebottom is easily in the top 5 most important players at the club and while he may not be AA at the moment he should be ranked in the top 10% of players playing the game today. If he played at Hawthorn or Geelong he's be hailed as possibly the game's best outside mid (and he does a lot of grunt work as well)
very well put, I didn't want to mention Mitchell and all as that would bring an unfair comparison on sidey as he does not have the back up these guys have. he does have a streak in him as well and can do the grunt work with the best of them, does have the uncharacteristic elbow lift occasionally. love his work though.
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A Grade. Genuine gun. Top 30 player in the competition IMO.
I'm watching Pies v WC right now.
You know the game, the one where Sidey did a dinky that cost us a goal after a string of h/balls from defence.
Awful.
But the other 99% of his game was exactly what we expect of him.
Would be crazy to offer him up for trade. Unless it's pick #1, then it's not a fair trade.
You know the game, the one where Sidey did a dinky that cost us a goal after a string of h/balls from defence.
Awful.
But the other 99% of his game was exactly what we expect of him.
Would be crazy to offer him up for trade. Unless it's pick #1, then it's not a fair trade.
Very very very talented footballer but boy he makes some dumb decisions sometimes, too many to be considered elite. I love Steele though - but I'd like to see him be moved into more a forward role as of next year as he's typically a clutch player and accurate in front of goal and would allow JDG to move into a more natural position.
Been better IMO this year than Pendles.
Couldn't disagree more with TD, his a genuine a grader.
His second half of the year was brilliant.
Couldn't disagree more with TD, his a genuine a grader.
His second half of the year was brilliant.
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Totally agree. I can't understand for the life of me why some people would think he is overrated. Like all players he can make mistakes but this year he has been almost without peer in our side for creating scoring opportunities from nothing. He takes the game on and rarely gets caught out doing it. On the occasions that he does get caught out more often than not it's partly because those around him aren't really understanding what he's trying to do and there's a percentage of those times which probably have to do with trying to do too much. I have no problem with those occasions whatsoever because if there's one thing the team needs it's a bit of creativity and he has it in spades. He was probably the player that I rated highest in our side this year and that's saying plenty albeit that Pendles played injured for a large block of games.
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When his kicking is good it is exceptional, tries to hard with dinky little kicks that look great if they come off looks very very bad if they dont.
I would imagine that at training his kicking is exceptional.
I would imagine that at training his kicking is exceptional.
