Analysis Sidebottom (with fan poll)

[Leviathan Pie]

Much like Heath Shaw and Toovey before him, I simply can't enjoy or like a player who costs us goals and momentum as often as Steele does.

I never changed on Shaw or Toovey and I won't on Steele. I'd rather we didn't have him. I know he can do great things, but he completely cancels them out and then some with utter stupidity, laziness and just flat out indifference to the cause.

I'd argue he borderline cost us the North Melbourne game last week with his absolute momentum killers.

Tend to agree

 

[Jekyll and Hyde]

Great player with a certain x-factor.
Stevie J has done incredible things and often has brain fades that cost his team too. He any good?
You only need to ask an opposition supporter how they rate him.

 

[Good_Old]

Spud. Delist.

 

[DaVe86]

Think he needs to play Half forward with the licence to be the extra midfielder as he's tank is unbelievable.

When Sidebottom fires it's not often we lose, very good player B+ type player, does make mistakes which I feel you need to just accept, he has X-factor which you can't teach.

I agree. He plays his best as a creative half forward who pushes onto a wing.

 

[Chilli Con Incarnate]

He's a champ. Easily one of our best. Top level A grader in the AFL. Be mad to ever consider letting him go.

 

[TheSierBear]

Steele has x-factor and his best footy is yet to come. Should be a A plus grader though with more consistency and minus the brain fades. Get ready for a big last month of 2016 peeps.

 

[Ketchup]

Yep. Goal kicking midfielder who regularly racks up 26+, our best transition runner, how often is he down on the defensive goal line talking marks and helping out, something you don't see any of our other midfielders do. Does a few stupid things, take the good with the bad, much like Treloar who has been spoken as a top 2-3 in here but doesn't have a defensive bone in his body and butchers the ball much much more than sidebottom.

 

[Maggie5]

That goal of his in the third quarter on his non preferred foot, was magic.
I Love Sidebum

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Wow , you think we would be better if he was not in our side. Your entitled to your opinion but I think that's about the biggest load of bull I've read on bf. I'd argue he got us back into the game last week and with out him we would not have been a chance in the last quarter . And lazy ? He is just about our hardest working player.

Those dinky little 10-15 metre passes that he lazily executes that often result in painful turnovers are a direct result of laziness. Either that, or a lack of care. You choose whichever ones makes him sound better.

As I said, I KNOW he does some great things, but given one of our number one flaws under the Buckley regime (hell it was an issue under Mick) is our habitual turnovers that result in goals, I simply can't be on board with ANY player who consistently contributes to that problem.

Shaw, Toovey, Licuria and Sidebottom are all past and present players who had certain great qualities that for me was completely undone by their ability to CONSISTENTLY destroy our momentum with a turnover or brain fade. Maynard appears to be a future player who is on that same path, which is the main reason I'm not feeling that kid either.

I mean, in that third quarter last week, we kicked 6 goals to North's 4. Sidebottom and Maynard were directly responsible for 3 of those 4 goals. I"m sorry, but I simply can't forgive that. I just can't. That's just me.

 

[PieBeast]

Top 3 at the Club, no ifs and buts.
And that's after the addition of Treloar.

People seem to forget how many times he's carried us over the last few years.
Champ of a bloke to boot.

 

[TradeDraft]

Wow , you think we would be better if he was not in our side. Your entitled to your opinion but I think that's about the biggest load of bull I've read on bf. I'd argue he got us back into the game last week and with out him we would not have been a chance in the last quarter . And lazy ? He is just about our hardest working player.

Agree. Steele is a Gun and you rather him not on the List is a Shock

 

[Jekyll and Hyde]

I mean, in that third quarter last week, we kicked 6 goals to North's 4. Sidebottom and Maynard were directly responsible for 3 of those 4 goals. I"m sorry, but I simply can't forgive that. I just can't. That's just me.

 

[Mateyman]

Definite top 5. I reckon he's best as a high half forward. Is a genuine crumber with brilliant goal sense. Would be great as a HFF with stints in the middle, but maybe too valuable playing in the middle atm.

 

[jatsad]

Been banging on about this for ages. He is the most natural crumber/forward we have. Should take Blair's place permanently. He can have the odd run up the ground if required.
That would keep him out of the backline where those smart-arse little dinky kicks won't cost us goals.

 

[jmac70]

Much like Heath Shaw and Toovey before him, I simply can't enjoy or like a player who costs us goals and momentum as often as Steele does.

I never changed on Shaw or Toovey and I won't on Steele. I'd rather we didn't have him. I know he can do great things, but he completely cancels them out and then some with utter stupidity, laziness and just flat out indifference to the cause.

I'd argue he borderline cost us the North Melbourne game last week with his absolute momentum killers.

Lazy? He's the hardest runner at the club.

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Lazy? He's the hardest runner at the club.

He explained the laziness was in relation to his brain-farts via foot

 

[jmac70]

He explained the laziness was in relation to his brain-farts via foot

Not sure how that's lazy but each to his own. Steele does make some bad mistakes but the good far outweighs the bad. He has also taken a pay cut to stay at the club.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Much like Heath Shaw and Toovey before him, I simply can't enjoy or like a player who costs us goals and momentum as often as Steele does.

I never changed on Shaw or Toovey and I won't on Steele. I'd rather we didn't have him. I know he can do great things, but he completely cancels them out and then some with utter stupidity, laziness and just flat out indifference to the cause.

I'd argue he borderline cost us the North Melbourne game last week with his absolute momentum killers.

So you'd like a team filled with players who make better decisions, and have less errors than Shaw and Sidebottom??

I nominate your post for worst of the year.

 

[mattys123]

Sidebottom even in his early years was an average home and away footballer and a bloody champion come finals.

The problem is we don't play finals anymore.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Much like Heath Shaw and Toovey before him, I simply can't enjoy or like a player who costs us goals and momentum as often as Steele does.

I never changed on Shaw or Toovey and I won't on Steele. I'd rather we didn't have him. I know he can do great things, but he completely cancels them out and then some with utter stupidity, laziness and just flat out indifference to the cause.

I'd argue he borderline cost us the North Melbourne game last week with his absolute momentum killers.

Your opinion, fair enough.
But seems extreme re Steele.
That extreme type of view, to me, betrays a view that one can rarely be satisfied watching football.

 

[Black_White]

What a lot of people seem to not understand is that output shambles of a backline means Steele is often in an area that he should not be.
He is our link man/finisher but is seen regularly down back rescuing our sorry butts from another fumble fumble fumble mishap.
He may have some deficiencies in his kicking, but whenever this happens it is generally because he us trying to create the next attacking passage of play, not taking the soft option.
His kick to the WC player on our backline yesterday was an absolute howler, no doubt he knew that at the time.
But from then I I saw him do nothing but attire for that kick. He owed us a goal from that incident. I reckon he paid us back.
As for being a momentum killer, let's take a look at players like Blair and Grundy if you want to see momentum killers. Time and time again.
I'm pretty happy with the poll resultsin this thread, shows that most aren't numb nuts after all.

 

[BEEG]

Still only 25 which is amazing, turns 26 in January

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Your opinion, fair enough.
But seems extreme re Steele.
That extreme type of view, to me, betrays a view that one can rarely be satisfied watching football.

Im more easily satisfied watching the footy than you think.

But this board has a serious perspective problem. They sink the boots into a player like Sinclair when he makes errors, yet you're all so forgiving of Sidebottom when his errors are just as frequent and just as grievous. Why? Remind me where we took Sidebottom in the draft and where we took Sinclair? If anything, we should be far more forgiving of a player who wasn't taken at number 11 in the draft. But maybe that's just me.

I mean, if you have 2 children, one is 4 years old and one is 10 years old. Both misbehave, who would you be more disappointed in? The older child who should know better, or the toddler?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Im more easily satisfied watching the footy than you think.

But this board has a serious perspective problem. They sink the boots into a player like Sinclair when he makes errors, yet you're all so forgiving of Sidebottom when his errors are just as frequent and just as grievous. Why? Remind me where we took Sidebottom in the draft and where we took Sinclair? If anything, we should be far more forgiving of a player who wasn't taken at number 11 in the draft. But maybe that's just me.

I mean, if you have 2 children, one is 4 years old and one is 10 years old. Both misbehave, who would you be more disappointed in? The older child who should know better, or the toddler?

Children are perfect
Some good points.
I don't mind Sinclair. Though he's not in the same category as Sidebottom.

 

[Ulahoopski]

Elite runner. Absolutely.
Efforts and application during games, fantastic.

Overall a notch or so below elite but close enough to overall terrific player.
Does odd thing wrong, but such a superb runner, up and down that always presenting.

Plays finals well, so big games doesn't go missing.

Terrific player, not Pendlbury or Swan but high value player. Brings plenty and boy can he run

Perfect description for mine.