AFLW Sign and Trade Period for the 2021 AFLW season, August 3rd-21st (all list management details up in here)

Who won the 2020 AFLW Trade Period Premiership?

  • Adelaide - environmentally friendly

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  • Collingwood - hello Newman etc

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  • Geelong definitely know what they're doing

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  • GWS Giants - Katherine Smith aka Killa Kat is about to fu** sh*t up in the old Greater West

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  • Richmond have neces-Sarah-ly improved

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  • St Kilda - love that BJ

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  • West Coast - tip of the hat for their Tipperary recruit

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  • Total voters
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Teen Wolf

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During this period, Clubs will be permitted to sign up to 27 players, including rookie players. Rookie players in the AFL Women’s Competition are those that have not been listed with any Australian football team for the past three years.

Key dates for the 2020 AFLW Sign and Trade Period:

Monday August 3

AFLW Sign & Trade Period commences (12pm)

Wednesday August 12
Trade period closes (2pm)
AFLW List Lodgement # 1 (4pm)

Monday August 17
Re-signing and Restricted Free Agent period closes (2pm)
AFLW List Lodgement # 2 (4pm)

Friday August 21
Delisted Free Agent period closes (2pm)
AFLW List Lodgement # 3 (4pm)
AFLW Draft order confirmed

Please note, the order for the NAB AFL Women’s Draft will be confirmed prior to the commencement of this period.
List changes below. If there's any info or news that can be added to complete the lists, please reply with a relevant link and I'll update the OP as we go.

ADELAIDE
Signed: Caitlin Gould, Eloise Jones, Angela Foley, Chloe Scheer, Hannah Button, Nikki Gore, Najwa Allen, Deni Varnhagen, Ebony Marinoff, Rhiannon Metcalfe, Chelsea Biddell, Erin Phillips, Stevie-Lee Thompson, Danielle Ponter, Ailish Considine , Madison Newman, Montana McKinnon, Justine Mules, Chelsea Randall, Renee Forth, Dayna Cox, Marijana Rajcic, Anne Hatchard, Sarah Allan, Jessica Sedunary, Hannah Munyard, Lisa Whiteley
Drafted: Teah Charlton, Rachelle Martin, Ashleigh Woodland
Retired/delisted: Jess Foley, Courtney Cramey, Sophie Li, Courtney Gum, Ruth Wallace, Nicole Campbell, Jami Tabb, Maisie Nankivell

BRISBANE
Signed: Ally Anderson, Emily Bates, Greta Bodey, Shannon Campbell, Sophie Conway, Nat Grider, Breanna Koenen, Kate Lutkins, Jesse Wardlaw, Jess Wuetschner, Dakota Davidson, Belle Dawes, Tahlia Hickie, Rheanne Lugg, Maria Moloney, Lily Postlethwaite, Cathy Svarc, Lauren Arnell, Orla O'Dwyer, Selina Priest, Jade Ellenger, Jesse Keeffe, Sharni Webb, Jordan Zanchetta, Emma Zielke, Taylor Smith
Drafted: Zimmorlei Farquharson, Indy Tahau, Ruby Svarc
Inactive: Gabby Collingwood
Delisted/retired: Hannah Hillman, Arianna Clarke, Brianna McFarlane

CARLTON
Signed: Gabriella Pound, Darcy Vescio, Nicola Stevens, Tayla Harris, Madison Prespakis, Jess Hosking, Abbie McKay, Elise O'Dea, Maddy Guerin, Katie Loynes, Kerryn Harrington, Georgia Gee, Grace Egan, Lucy McEvoy, Breann Moody, Charlotte Wilson, Brooke Vernon, Mua Laloifi, Natalie Plane, Serena Gibbs, Alison Downie, Lauren Brazzale, Jess Edwards, Brooke Walker, Courtney Jones, Charlotte Hammans
Drafted: Mimi Hill, Daisy Walker, Winnie Laing
Inactive: Chloe Dalton
Delisted: Joanne Doonan, Katie Harrison, Sharnie Whiting, Emerson Woods
Traded: Sarah Hosking, Jayde Van Dyk

COLLINGWOOD
Signed: Ash Brazill, Chloe Molloy, Ruby Schleicher, Maddie Shevlin, Jordyn Allen, Abbey Green, Aliesha Newman, Steph Chiocci, Mikala Cann, Lauren Butler, Erica Fowler, Ebony O'Dea, Alana Porter, Imogen Purcell, Jaimee Lambert, Brianna Davey, Stacey Livingstone, Sophie Casey, Kristy Stratton, Jordan Membrey, Sophie Alexander, Sharni Layton, Brittany Bonnici, Sarah Rowe, Aisling Sheridan, Bella Smith
Drafted: Tarni Brown, Amelia Velardo, Joanna Lin, Abbi Moloney
Delisted/retired: Emma Grant, Eliza Hynes, Georgia Gourlay, Machaelia Roberts, Kaila Bentvelzen
Traded: Sarah D'Arcy, Sarah Dargan, Katie Lynch

FREMANTLE
Signed: Gemma Houghton, Angelique Stannett, Gabby O'Sullivan, Kara Antonio, Kiara Bowers, Ebony Antonio, Stephanie Cain, Philipa Seth, Ashley Sharp, Matilda Sergeant, Sabreena Duffy, Roxanne Roux, Mim Strom, Hayley Miller, Jess Trend, Evie Gooch, Alex Williams, Leah Mascall, Katie Jayne Grieve, Laura Pugh, Janelle Cuthbertson, Jasmin Stewart, Emma O’Driscoll, Bianca Webb, Ann McMahon, Aine Tighe, Tarnee Tester
Drafted: Sarah Verrier, Mikayla Morrison, Tiah Haynes
Delisted: Sarah Garstone, Kate Flood, Lindal Rohde, Mia-Rae Clifford
Traded: Tayla Bresland

GEELONG
Signed: Maddy Boyd, Millie Brown, Rene Caris, Georgia Clarke, Richelle Cranston, Julia Crockett-Grills, Nicole Garner, Renee Garing, Rebecca Goring, Danielle Higgins, Jordan Ivey, Maddy Keryk, Madisen Maguire, Amy McDonald, Meg McDonald, Maddy McMahon, Phoebe McWilliams, Nina Morrison, Aasta O'Connor, Olivia Purcell, Georgie Rankin, Mia Skinner, Denby Taylor, Sophie Van De Heuvel, Rebecca Webster
Drafted: Darcy Moloney, Laura Gardiner, Olivia Barber, Stephanie Williams, Carly Remmos
Inactive: Kate Darby
Delisted/retired: Melissa Hickey, Anna Teague, Cassie Blakeway, Gemma Wright

GOLD COAST
Signed: Paige Parker, Alison Drennan, Jacqui Yorston, Lauren Ahrens, Molly Ritson, Serene Watson, Brittany Perry, Ellie Hampson, Kalinda Howarth, Hannah Dunn, Dee Heslop, Kate Surman, Cheyenne Hammond, Jade Pregelj, Lauren Bella, Tori Groves-Little, Jordann Hickey, Leah Kaslar, Emma Pittman, Sally Riley, Jamie Stanton, Sam Virgo
Drafted: Annise Bradfield, Sarah Perkins, Maddison Levi, Janet Baird, Lucy Single, Elizabeth Keaney, Daisy D'Arcy, Wallis Randell
Inactive: Jasmyn Hewett
Retired/delisted: Tiarna Ernst, Tayla Thorn, Georgia Breward, Kitara Whap-Farrar, Lexi Hamilton, Maddy Roberts
Traded: Taylor Smith, Charlotte Hammans

GWS GIANTS
Signed: Alicia Eva, Alyce Parker, Katherine Smith, Pepa Randall, Louise Stephenson, Rebecca Privitelli, Tait Mackrill, Rebecca Beeson, Haneen Zreika, Cora Staunton, Erin McKinnon, Jessica Dal Pos, Elle Bennetts, Nicola Barr, Yvonne Bonner, Annalyse Lister, Lisa Steane, Jodie Hicks, Britt Tully, Jessica Allan, Aimee Schmidt, Tanya Hetherington, Emily Goodsir, Taylah Davies, Georgia Garnett, Sarah Halvorsen, Bríd Stack
Drafted: Tarni Evans, Emily Pease, Libby Graham
Inactive: Jacinda Barclay
Retired/delisted: Ellie Brush, Ingrid Nielsen, Maggie Gorham
Traded: Lisa Whiteley

MELBOURNE
Signed: Tegan Cunningham, Meg Downie, Maddi Gay, Karen Paxman, Daisy Pearce, Sarah Lampard, Libby Birch, Kate Hore, Chantel Emonson, Shelley Scott, Lily Mithen, Lauren Pearce, Niamh McEvoy, Casey Sherriff, Jackie Parry, Brenna Tarrant, Sinead Goldrick, Shae Sloane, Tyla Hanks, Eden Zanker, Shelley Heath, Krstel Petrevski, Gabby Colvin, Lauren Magee
Drafted: Alyssa Bannan, Elizabeth McNamara, Maggie Caris, Megan Fitzsimon, Mietta Kendall, Isabella Simmons
Delisted: Ainslie Kemp
Traded: Elise O'Dea, Maddy Guerin, Bianca Jakobsson, Harriet Cordner, Aliesha Newman, Katherine Smith

NORTH MELBOURNE
Signed: Grace Campbell, Jenna Bruton, Jasmine Garner, Emma King, Ash Riddell, Tahlia Randall, Kaitlyn Ashmore, Ellie Gavalas, Mia King, Jasmine Grierson, Sophie Abbatangelo, Vivien Saad, Sarah Wright, Aileen Gilroy, Daisy Bateman, Daria Bannister, Beth Lynch, Tahni Nestor, Elisha King, Emma Kearney, Jess Duffin, Kate Gillespie-Jones, Brittany Gibson, Danielle Hardiman, Nicole Bresnehan
Drafted: Isabella Eddey, Alice O'Loughlin, Georgia Hammond, Brooke Brown, Amy Smith
Delisted/retired: Mairead Seoighe, Chloe Haines, Libby Haines, Taylor Mesiti, Emma Humphries
Traded: Abbey Green, Jess Trend

RICHMOND
Signed: Sarah Hosking, Harriet Cordner, Sarah D'Arcy, Sarah Dargan, Akec Makur Chuot, Alana Woodward, Alice Edmonds, Christina Bernardi, Cleo Saxon-Jones, Courtney Wakefield, Emily Harley, Gabby Seymour, Hannah Burchell, Holly Whitford, Iilish Ross, Kate Dempsey, Katie Brennan, Kodi Jaques, Laura McClelland, Maddy Brancatisano, Monique Conti, Phoebe Monahan, Rebecca Miller, Sabrina Frederick, Sarah Sansonetti, Sophie Molan, Tayla Stahl
Drafted: Ellie McKenzie, Tessa Lavey, Luka Lesosky-Hay
Retired: Lauren Tesoriero, Laura Bailey, Ella Wood, Nekaela Buttler, Emma Horne, Ciara Fitzgerald
Traded: Grace Campbell

ST KILDA
Signed: Jayde Van Dyk, Bianca Jakobsson, Olivia Vesely, Molly McDonald, Nicola Xenos, Tarni White, Caitlin Greiser, Georgia Patrikios, Alison Brown, Rosie Dillon, Nat Exon, Clara Fitzpatrick, Darcy Guttridge, Selena Karlson, Poppy Kelly, Tilly Lucas-Rodd, Tamara Luke, Kate McCarthy, Cat Phillips, Hannah Priest, Isabella Shannon, Kate Shierlaw, Nadia von Bertouch, Rhiannon Watt, Claudia Whitfort, Tahlia Meyer
Drafted: Tyanna Smith, Alice Burke, Renee Saulitis, Jacqueline Vogt
Retired/delisted: Emma Mackie, Sammie Johnson, Mel Kuys, Courteney Munn, Kelly O’Neill
Traded: Jessica Sedunary, Alison Drennan

WEST COAST
Signed: Ashlee Atkins, Mikayla Bowen, Tayla Bresland, Hayley Bullas, Mhicca Carter, Imahra Cameron, Melissa Caulfield, Maddy Collier, Beatrice Devlyn, McKenzie Dowrick, Kellie Gibson, Brianna Green, Courtney Guard, Ashton Hill, Dana Hooker, Alicia Janz, Grace Kelly, Niamh Kelly, Parris Laurie, Aisling McCarthy, Sophie McDonald, Kate Orme, Chantella Perera, Belinda Smith, Emma Swanson, Lauren Gauci, Amber Ward
Drafted: Isabella Lewis, Shanae Davison, Julie-Anne Norrish, Andrea Gilmore
Inactive: McKenzie Dowrick
Retired/delisted: Talia Radan, Emily Bonser, Kate Bartlett, Cassie Davidson, Emily McGuire, Danika Pisconeri, Tarnee Tester

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Signed: Amelia Van Oosterwijck, Angelica Gogos, Ashleigh Guest, Bailey Hunt, Bonnie Toogood, Britney Gutknecht, Brooke Lochland, Celine Moody, Dani Marshall, Deanna Berry, Eleanor Brown, Elisabeth Georgostathis, Ellie Blackburn, Ellyse Gamble, Gabby Newton, Gemma Lagioia, Hannah Scott, Isabel Huntington, Isabella Grant, Katie Lynch, Katy Herron, Kim Rennie, Kirsten McLeod, Kirsty Lamb, Lauren Spark, Naomi Ferres, Nell Morris-Dalton
Drafted: Jess Fitzgerald, Sarah Hartwig, Isabelle Pritchard
Retired: Nicole Callinan
Traded: Hannah Munyard, Aisling McCarthy
 
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Teen Wolf

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*Speculation*

Players to keep an eye on – out of contract

Ash Riddell (NM) – Might be hard for North to keep Riddell in the long run as their 3rd or 4th best player, although I don’t see any team making a big play for her yet. Richmond could theoretically float an enticing offer, which would involve a bold move to give up another #1 pick. However, as evidenced by the sacking of Tom Hunter, the Tigers have shifted to safe mode now.

Kaitlyn Ashmore (NM) – Curiously signed a one-year deal in April 2019. North Melbourne remains her best fit. If you’re St Kilda or Melbourne or the Western Bulldogs etc, how many versions of Kate McCarthy or Aliesha Newman or Kirsten McLeod etc do you need?

Lucy McEvoy (CAR) – Geelong are second in a two-horse race, which isn’t necessarily over. Nominating for the Metro draft last year was a surprise, so it’s hard to categorically rule out circumstances surprisingly changing again.

Roxanne Roux (FRE) – I’ve seen a fair bit of back-and-forth about Roux’s true WA club of choice. The answer should be influenced by which WA club wants her more, which should be influenced by which WA club needs her more. The Eagles probably think it’s them, but they shouldn’t. The Dockers probably think they can win the flag in 2021 without her, but they also shouldn’t.

Ellie Gavalas (NM) – Played VFLW at the Bulldogs and would be a huge boost for their AFLW midfield. One interpretation of North’s early delisting announcement, however, is that they wouldn’t have cut Haines x2 unless there was an easier way to get down to 27 players (in other words, they might be confident everybody else is coming back).

Bonnie Toogood (WB) – Ought to be on every Victorian team’s radar (except maybe Richmond), and vice-versa.

Rebecca Privitelli (GWS) – Worth another look for a few clubs, especially Melbourne and Collingwood who were starving for contested marks I50 this year.


Players to keep an eye on – plausibly out of contract

Kalinda Howarth (GC) – Likely out of contract, probably only going to attract serious enquiries if she leaves Queensland by her own volition at this stage.

Kate Hore (MEL) – Her underwhelming ‘19 in a team brimming with on-ballers and small forwards could have led to an understandable one-year deal, but Hore has always been pumped-up from within the club—the captain, for example, predicted her to be the league’s breakout player of 2020. If the Dees stumble upon the opportunity to trade one of their gun accumulators for a solid tall forward, they should take it.

Daisy Pearce (MEL) and Erin Phillips (ADE) – Thinking both are out of contract, at the same time suspecting there’s no chance of them playing elsewhere next year.
 
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Teen Wolf

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Went creeping through a bunch of player instagram accounts to get confirmation on contract details, updated the OP with my findings. Most notable (to me, at least) is that Chloe Molloy did in fact sign for two years.

Also, here's a summary of the changes I think each club should aim for.

ADELAIDE
Using nothing but her sound grasp of the fundamentals, Brittany Perry had a better season than any of Adelaide's forwards (possible exception being Ponter, who had higher highs and lower lows). I don't know if she'd leave the Suns now for a team that repeatedly overlooked her, but it can't hurt to ask.

BRISBANE
New coach required imo.

CARLTON
Essentially the Blues just need what Lauren Brazzale can provide, but on a more consistent basis.

COLLINGWOOD and FREMANTLE
Not much left to add except perhaps some height to their backlines.

GEELONG
This year's squad of 30 included nine players born in or before 1990 and eight players born in 2000 or later, fwiw. What if Melbourne delisted 23yo Ainslie Kemp (who is without doubt a quality footballer but has just struggled with injury)? Other Victorian clubs would be put off by the potential of more knee injuries, but the Cats should be keen to gamble on a player like that. Because, after all, they’re not in the same position as other Victorian clubs.

GOLD COAST
The Suns lack an experienced voice in the centre square. If Lauren Arnell can be shipped off to Queensland, so can Katie Loynes.

GWS GIANTS
? The only thing missing from their list is self-belief! Every opportunity GWS earned during the last three years was choked away. Their willingness to embrace the "Dad's Army" moniker, and the captain's decision to pull the pin on the eve of pre-season, is rather revealing in retrospect.

MELBOURNE
Having talked up Tegan Cunningham in '18 and '19, this was a hard year to watch as both her ineffectiveness and dirty acts off the ball grew by the quarter. With the way the Demons have quickly cast aside struggling goal-kickers in the past, she'll be lucky to survive the axe. Sarah Perkins could make that decision a whole lot easier on Melbourne by losing 20kgs (or at least 10kgs to get somewhere near the underwhelming fitness levels of your Greisers and Stringers).

NORTH MELBOURNE
Occasionally swinging Emma King forward worked when it was to complement Jasmine Garner. Can't complain about the move of Garner into the middle, but it does mean North should be looking at bringing in a young key forward to fill that hole, rather than resorting to King grazing in the goal-square for long stretches. Re-drafting Chloe and Libby Haines would therefore not be hugely surprising.

RICHMOND
Hopefully some good news for Scott Gowans is imminent. If not, I'm sure Caroline Wilson will send an arrow in the direction of her pal Kate Sheahan (who btw is the biggest boys' club appointment in football) for neglecting a high-performing AFLW coach.

ST KILDA
Both Hannah Scott and the Saints suffered after she knocked back an offer to join as an expansion signing. St Kilda can win the contested ball and lock it in their F50 well, but they lack quality when transitioning out of defence.

WEST COAST
The one club that needs to entice star players from around the country just so happens to be the same club that can best afford to. Nevertheless, with so many of the league’s top players halfway through two-year deals, the Eagles might have to wait another season before a strong recruiting spree is possible.

WESTERN BULLDOGS
The Dogs will do well to hold on to several promising prospects who already have one foot out the door.
 

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jatz14

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*Speculation*

Players to keep an eye on – out of contract

Ash Riddell (NM) – Might be hard for North to keep Riddell in the long run as their 3rd or 4th best player, although I don’t see any team making a big play for her yet. Richmond could theoretically float an enticing offer, which would involve a bold move to give up another #1 pick. However, as evidenced by the sacking of Tom Hunter, the Tigers have shifted to safe mode now.

Kaitlyn Ashmore (NM) – Curiously signed a one-year deal in April 2019. North Melbourne remains her best fit. If you’re St Kilda or Melbourne or the Western Bulldogs etc, how many versions of Kate McCarthy or Aliesha Newman or Kirsten McLeod etc do you need?

Lucy McEvoy (CAR) – Geelong are second in a two-horse race, which isn’t necessarily over. Nominating for the Metro draft last year was a surprise, so it’s hard to categorically rule out circumstances surprisingly changing again.

Roxanne Roux (FRE) – I’ve seen a fair bit of back-and-forth about Roux’s true WA club of choice. The answer should be influenced by which WA club wants her more, which should be influenced by which WA club needs her more. The Eagles probably think it’s them, but they shouldn’t. The Dockers probably think they can win the flag in 2021 without her, but they also shouldn’t.

Ellie Gavalas (NM) – Played VFLW at the Bulldogs and would be a huge boost for their AFLW midfield. One interpretation of North’s early delisting announcement, however, is that they wouldn’t have cut Haines x2 unless there was an easier way to get down to 27 players (in other words, they might be confident everybody else is coming back).

Bonnie Toogood (WB) – Ought to be on every Victorian team’s radar (except maybe Richmond), and vice-versa.

Rebecca Privitelli (GWS) – Worth another look for a few clubs, especially Melbourne and Collingwood who were starving for contested marks I50 this year.


Players to keep an eye on – plausibly out of contract

Kalinda Howarth (GC) – Likely out of contract, probably only going to attract serious enquiries if she leaves Queensland by her own volition at this stage.

Kate Hore (MEL) – Her underwhelming ‘19 in a team brimming with on-ballers and small forwards could have led to an understandable one-year deal, but Hore has always been pumped-up from within the club—the captain, for example, predicted her to be the league’s breakout player of 2020. If the Dees stumble upon the opportunity to trade one of their gun accumulators for a solid tall forward, they should take it.

Daisy Pearce (MEL) and Erin Phillips (ADE) – Thinking both are out of contract, at the same time suspecting there’s no chance of them playing elsewhere next year.
Privitelli stayed in Sydney, even in the year she wasn't on a list.
Pretty clear indication she is now settled in Sydney and isn't going anywhere.

Malinda Howarth is GC most important forward, and they know it, she isn't going anywhere either.

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Teen Wolf

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Privitelli stayed in Sydney, even in the year she wasn't on a list.
Pretty clear indication she is now settled in Sydney and isn't going anywhere.
Privitelli stayed in Sydney after receiving zero offers to play for a Melbourne club. She'll at least have worthwhile options to consider this time around.
Kalinda Howarth is GC most important forward, and they know it, she isn't going anywhere either.
I guess that's where Brisbane and the Bulldogs etc went wrong. If only they realised their All-Australian forwards were important, Harris and Conti etc wouldn't have left! Strange reasoning.
 

jatz14

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Privitelli stayed in Sydney after receiving zero offers to play for a Melbourne club. She'll at least have worthwhile options to consider this time around.

I guess that's where Brisbane and the Bulldogs etc went wrong. If only they realised their All-Australian forwards were important, Harris and Conti etc wouldn't have left! Strange reasoning.
Yes, She didnt have any offers to play for a Sydney club either, GWS delisted her. But if she was chasing offers from Melbourne clubs, and wanted to return to Melbourne, she would have played in the VFLW. That she stayed and played in Sydney suggests Sydney is now her permanent home. She has gotten back onto GWS list, thinking its now that she would look to go back to Melbourne seems odd.

Howarth is a GCS fan, was a member of the GCS academy, and a fan of the GCS coach. Zero similarities to Conti or Harris.
 

Teen Wolf

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Yes, She didnt have any offers to play for a Sydney club either, GWS delisted her. But if she was chasing offers from Melbourne clubs, and wanted to return to Melbourne, she would have played in the VFLW. That she stayed and played in Sydney suggests Sydney is now her permanent home. She has gotten back onto GWS list, thinking its now that she would look to go back to Melbourne seems odd.
There weren't any offers from Melbourne clubs to chase. Not exactly the impetus to uproot one's life again. She lives in Sydney, that's been established.
She has gotten back onto GWS list, thinking its now that she would look to go back to Melbourne seems odd.
I don't know who's thinking she would move, I just know I said a couple teams should try to make it happen.
Howarth is a GCS fan, was a member of the GCS academy, and a fan of the GCS coach.
Ohhh ok, I thought you said Howarth wasn't going anywhere because she's "GC most important forward, and they know it". Turns out it's because of other reasons now.
 

jatz14

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There weren't any offers from Melbourne clubs to chase. Not exactly the impetus to uproot one's life again. She lives in Sydney, that's been established.

I don't know who's thinking she would move, I just know I said a couple teams should try to make it happen.

Ohhh ok, I thought you said Howarth wasn't going anywhere because she's "GC most important forward, and they know it". Turns out it's because of other reasons now.
You stated players like Conti, who clubs knew were important, still left, despite those clubs wishes. Just pointing out, that only happens if the player really wants to leave, but Howarth doesn't.

GC do not want to get rid of her, she does not want to leave. Kapeesh?
 

Teen Wolf

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Just pointing out, that only happens if the player really wants to leave
Pointing out something very obvious that doesn't need to be pointed out. Annoying.
she does not want to leave
Such a definitive statement is unjustified, unless you have information that hasn't been made public. There are all kinds of personal reasons that spring up, seemingly out of nowhere, resulting in players unexpectedly switching clubs. Happens every year.
 

Teen Wolf

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Regarding yesterday's news of West Coast and Richmond each receiving an end-of-first-round priority pick to trade on, I started to think about the type of player it might allow the Eagles and Tigers to bring in.

For West Coast, I would say Hayley Miller is closest to that value of all the Freo players.
For Richmond, maybe Grace Egan in a twisted way but Sarah Hosking's also around that mark and would suit better.

So through that lens, the decision by the AFL looks pretty astute. Both teams would be able to address a fundamental need by luring a readymade contributor, rather than worldbeater (present or future), away from another team. But, paper vs reality and all that, probably gonna need a bit of luck for it to work out so cleanly.
 

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Roxanne Roux (FRE) – I’ve seen a fair bit of back-and-forth about Roux’s true WA club of choice. The answer should be influenced by which WA club wants her more, which should be influenced by which WA club needs her more. The Eagles probably think it’s them, but they shouldn’t. The Dockers probably think they can win the flag in 2021 without her, but they also shouldn’t.
AFLW: Fremantle rising star Roxy Roux set to re-sign with Fremantle
Mitchell WoodcockThe West Australian
Monday, 20 July 2020 1:31PM
Fremantle are on the verge of re-signing rising star Roxy Roux, with her manager Andrew McDougall confirming they were set to ink a new deal in the coming weeks.

Roux was taken by the Dockers pick 12, their first round, in last year’s AFLW draft after the forward was named in the under-18 All Australian side and helped East Fremantle to the WAFLW premiership.

The 18-year-old played in six of the Dockers’ seven games in 2020, kicking five goals including a great performance in the inaugural AFLW western derby when she kicked two goals and clunked four marks including a big contested one deep inside 50, which led to a rising star nomination.

Used as a back up ruck to fellow draftee Mim Strom, Roux averaged five hit-outs a game as well used her ferocity around the ground to lay a number of big tackles.
At just 170cm tall, the dynamic forward showed what the next generation of AFLW footballer looks like, with her excellent marking ability and massive kick giving the Dockers a real weapon up forward.
McDougall said Roux was excited to stay at Fremantle under former WA under-18 coach Trent Cooper, who she has a close relationship with.
“She really knows Trent Cooper is the right coach for her and can see a bright future at Fremantle,” he said.

Young Roxy Roux had an instant impact at the Dockers in 2020.

Young Roxy Roux had an instant impact at the Dockers in 2020. Credit: RICHARD WAINWRIGHT/AAPIMAGE
The Dockers were unlucky not to be crowned 2020 premiers, winning all seven of their games, including a thumping 70-point win over Gold Coast in the semi-final at Fremantle Oval, before the competition was called off due to the coronavirus.
The AFLW sign and trade period opens on August 3.
 

Teen Wolf

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I'd love a tall forward at the pies. Not sure how easily they come by with the aflw.
It's arguably a case of easy come, easy go. At least a couple burst onto the scene every season before quickly fading out by the end of the next. Harris is probably the only permanent key forward to have improved each year.

Schleicher is one for Collingwood who I look at and think she definitely has the ability but it seems unlikely to materialise because, in addition to the obstacle of injuries, the Pies see her as a defender.
 

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It's arguably a case of easy come, easy go. At least a couple burst onto the scene every season before quickly fading out by the end of the next. Harris is probably the only permanent key forward to have improved each year.

Schleicher is one for Collingwood who I look at and think she definitely has the ability but it seems unlikely to materialise because, in addition to the obstacle of injuries, the Pies see her as a defender.
Is Ruby that tall? I know she has been playing as a defender. But I feel if you have a good variety down back, you should be able to dabble with others if they are the right size in other options that's lacking. Pies have a few avenues toward goal, but a KPF is one that would complement the side quite well. I suppose depends on what the draft brings.

I know the pies will be gaining Father/Daughter Tarni Brown, but believe she's a mid.
 

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Is Ruby that tall? I know she has been playing as a defender. But I feel if you have a good variety down back, you should be able to dabble with others if they are the right size in other options that's lacking. Pies have a few avenues toward goal, but a KPF is one that would complement the side quite well. I suppose depends on what the draft brings.

I know the pies will be gaining Father/Daughter Tarni Brown, but believe she's a mid.
175cm, so on the shorter end of tall, but big enough to have pinch-hit in the ruck at times. Same height as Brazill, whose absence/presence in 2021 will no doubt inform a lot of structural decisions.
 

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Is Ruby that tall? I know she has been playing as a defender. But I feel if you have a good variety down back, you should be able to dabble with others if they are the right size in other options that's lacking. Pies have a few avenues toward goal, but a KPF is one that would complement the side quite well. I suppose depends on what the draft brings.

I know the pies will be gaining Father/Daughter Tarni Brown, but believe she's a mid.
Prior to being drafted, she played in the WAWFL finals as a mobile ruck. One of the best on as well. It's what got her drafted I suspect, tall"ish", mobile and athletic.

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I mentioned a few posts up that Melbourne should think about trading out one of their mids, but this is a strange article: "The Dees have indicated they are keen to improve their draft position this year and are open to giving up experienced players to make that happen."... not sure how that's going to happen by dealing with a team that follows them in the draft order.

Other potential moves mentioned
Aliesha Newman (Melb) to Collingwood - and by tall forward, we meant speedy shortarse
Bianca Jakobsson (Melb) to St Kilda - would be a good get if she actually plays, but still not the rebounder type that the Saints need most
Aisling McCarthy (WB) to West Coast - one of the few (only?) Irish players who wasn't on a rookie contract fwiw
Sarah Dargan (Coll) to Richmond - decent fit
Harriet Cordner (Melb) to Richmond - odd one, doesn't really address a need for the Tigers that I see, only serves to disgrace a family name! (EDIT: also mentions the Bulldogs for Cordner, which might make sense pending other movements)
 
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It means they intend to improve their draft position by trading out established players for high draft picks. Where Melbournes first currently falls is irrelevant if they want to load up on talented NAB league graduates.

It certainly is an interesting move if true, men’s AFL teams generally don’t rebuild unless they have a new coach or are already in the bottom half of the ladder and have an ageing list.
 

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I think West Coast tragetting McCarthy is clever, and could apply to any of the talented Irish girls who have already moved halfway across the world to play the game. I hope they are putting the hard word on players in all of the other states as well (as I expect they will) to build their talent base. Getting the best young WA talent over 3-4 years will help them catch up to Freo eventually but they are coming from a long way back at the moment.
 

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It means they intend to improve their draft position by trading out established players for high draft picks. Where Melbournes first currently falls is irrelevant if they want to load up on talented NAB league graduates.

It certainly is an interesting move if true, men’s AFL teams generally don’t rebuild unless they have a new coach or are already in the bottom half of the ladder and have an ageing list.
Carlton's draft position isn't irrelevant though. They don't have the picks to offer a fair trade. Melbourne would be talking to the Bulldogs or Saints if it was about bringing in a high pick.

Her manager Alex Saundry: "...it’s important to address these things to make sure she feels really valued and also making sure she feels like she’s playing a big role in a team as well." My interpretation is this potential move is being initiated by O'Dea, who is unhappy and wants out (but only to go to another contender).
 

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It means they intend to improve their draft position by trading out established players for high draft picks. Where Melbournes first currently falls is irrelevant if they want to load up on talented NAB league graduates.

It certainly is an interesting move if true, men’s AFL teams generally don’t rebuild unless they have a new coach or are already in the bottom half of the ladder and have an ageing list.
I suspect it relates to the impression the new talent coming in will be better than the established talent.

Which isn't an assumption you can make about men's.



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Why would Carlton trade in O'Dea at the cost of essentially giving away a player they assume is better.

Not gonna rule out the possibility that Daniel Cherny got something jumbled up again.
 

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Carlton's draft position isn't irrelevant though. They don't have the picks to offer a fair trade. Melbourne would be talking to the Bulldogs or Saints if it was about bringing in a high pick.

Her manager Alex Saundry: "...it’s important to address these things to make sure she feels really valued and also making sure she feels like she’s playing a big role in a team as well." My interpretation is this potential move is being initiated by O'Dea, who is unhappy and wants out (but only to go to another contender).
I agree.

Until a trade is done the article is just speculation but a pick in the top half dozen would be much more valuable than a pick right at the tail end of the first round.

Two time AFLW All Australian's don't grow on trees - there are literally 20 players who have made the team that many times or more and while 28 is reasonably old it is early to be dumping her in my view.
 

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I suspect it relates to the impression the new talent coming in will be better than the established talent.

Which isn't an assumption you can make about men's.

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In the women's comp the top end draftees are way ahead of their male counterparts when it comes to first, second or 3rd year impact. Even those who may be considered disappointing in their first year are usually developed more quickly by being given high TOG and chances to play important roles, both in AFLW as well as VFLW including in their draft year.

All clubs realise this and it is why any struggling Victorian club will press hard on a re-set and be fairly decent within 2-3 years whereas in the mens comp it takes 5 plus years (if it works at all).

Some of the less notable draftees seem to be more similar in that they take 1-2 seasons to break into the side and go past more established team-mates. If a side picks 10 youngsters over 2 drafts and most of them pan out they are well se for sustained success and that appears to have been the Blues and Pies strategy a couple of years ago.

The Bulldogs definitely went younger in 2020 and will probably be most affected by COVID-19 in that those players won't be developed nearly as much without a VFLW season to play. I honestly think Richmond will improve quickly if they head to the draft and develop talent properly rather than chase instant improvement.
 

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Regarding yesterday's news of West Coast and Richmond each receiving an end-of-first-round priority pick to trade on, I started to think about the type of player it might allow the Eagles and Tigers to bring in.

For Richmond, maybe Grace Egan in a twisted way but Sarah Hosking's also around that mark and would suit better.
^^^Second good call of the year, by yours truly.
The trade is likely to involve the Tigers' end of first-round compensation pick, selection No.15 in the national draft, which is pick No.9 in the Victorian draft.
 

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